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DOWN JACKET FETISH posted:fat Ghost Wolf dude is a teacher; jake works (worked) in a scrapyard, if we're assuming the comic's to be trusted Not everybody comes back from war able to do their old job. Or it could just be a case of the narrators being inconsistent as hell/lying all the time. Once that can of worms is open it's hard to get back. RBA Starblade posted:Their eyes are different colors (green versus grey iirc) and he's missing the scar, he can't be him. OK you're right about the eyes, i still like my theory but it's probably not the best.
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Discendo Vox posted:I don't think it's necessarily the case that Evan was also the journalist in Hawaii. It's more likely than not, really. I mean, usually when they reuse character assets they change something, but that journalist and Evan look exactly the same as far as I recall. Which seems like it'd be a huge mistake on Dennaton's part if their intent was that they're separate characters. Plus, the plot just fits together so much more neatly that way.
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Mar 27, 2015 20:29
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Discendo Vox posted:All there is is, in one of the interstitials, Beard says "this gives me a bad feeling, like right before San Francisco", or something to that effect. The line is "I have a feeling that something bad is going to happen. I haven't felt like this since San Francisco." E: And Jake not having a giant gently caress off facial scar is much better evidence of him not being the same guy as the Ghost Wolf.
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Mar 27, 2015 20:33
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Discendo Vox posted:Fat Ghost Wolves character survives the events of HM1- he's visible watching the news in a bar in the first comic. It's very clearly the same face
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Mar 27, 2015 20:36
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Discendo Vox posted:I don't think it's necessarily the case that Evan was also the journalist in Hawaii.  
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Mar 27, 2015 21:25
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Nah, his head's tilted differently. Not the same guy. Also poo poo does Evan wear lipgloss or something
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Mar 27, 2015 21:30
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So ah, since this thread has helped inform me of all sorts of hidden gameplay tips, is there a way to have better luck picking up a certain weapon on the ground when there's multiple bats and guns lying around? I'm in act five and the levels seem to be calling for some good old melee weapons, but if there's a shotgun anywhere near my guy he'll pick that up instead of the bat that is RIGHT next to him. I know HM1 had this issue, but its really cropping up in this set of stages
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Narcissus1916 posted:So ah, since this thread has helped inform me of all sorts of hidden gameplay tips, is there a way to have better luck picking up a certain weapon on the ground when there's multiple bats and guns lying around? Nope, this is a persistent issue in both games and it was very frustrating to me in that same act. If you have the opportunity to move yourself comically far to the side of the pile of weapons that might help!
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Narcissus1916 posted:So ah, since this thread has helped inform me of all sorts of hidden gameplay tips, is there a way to have better luck picking up a certain weapon on the ground when there's multiple bats and guns lying around? Unfortunately not. It will gently caress you over at the worst moment, especially on hard where you're usually required to do lightning quick weapon swaps to take out fat dudes etc.
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Tulip posted:I still think that's Jake, he just took a different route out of the power plant, though that makes the title 'casualties' a little ambiguous. I don't know I think some Russians might have died that level.
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Mar 27, 2015 22:12
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When we first meet Jake, he's shaving his blonde hair off. There's no other blonde characters, so we have to assume that he's the skinny blonde actress in a fat suit.
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Mar 27, 2015 22:41
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What I don't get is the Fans in the bar in Hawaii. I mean, I guess it is just an Easter Egg, and not supposed to be relevant to the plot, because I can't think of any other way it really makes sense.
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Mar 27, 2015 22:44
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The comics detail Jake's backstory pretty in-depth, or at least in-depth for Hotline Miami. Don't read them though, they're kinda poo poo.
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Ambivalent posted:What I don't get is the Fans in the bar in Hawaii. I mean, I guess it is just an Easter Egg, and not supposed to be relevant to the plot, because I can't think of any other way it really makes sense. I'm pretty sure those are just different people.
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Mar 27, 2015 22:55
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RBA Starblade posted:I'm pretty sure those are just different people. I thought this for a long time, but I'm not as certain, simply because all their animations and haircuts are the same. It would be total plot nonsense to do it, though- and it wouldn't explain the black character in the corner playing a videogame.
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The black guy is Pardo Seriously why does it bother you that the Fans are in hawaii? The defining moment of the whole Hawaii arc is the Colonel showing up with his new face, and everything he says there applies to the fans as well. D Company are just not quite as badass as the Ghost Wolves, which is why Jacket ends up standing trial, and the Fans do not. Plus, y'know, loads of masked killers are ex military.
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Discendo Vox posted:I thought this for a long time, but I'm not as certain, simply because all their animations and haircuts are the same. It would be total plot nonsense to do it, though- and it wouldn't explain the black character in the corner playing a videogame. Rasmus is a cameo. DOWN JACKET FETISH posted:The black guy is Pardo It's kinda weird that The Fans had no idea what 50 Blessings was and were trying to get the phonecalls if they were ex-army. Unless that plot point got cut like half the other ones. Cuntellectual fucked around with this message at 23:08 on Mar 27, 2015 |
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moths posted:When we first meet Jake, he's shaving his blonde hair off. There's no other blonde characters, so we have to assume that he's the skinny blonde actress in a fat suit. Actually there's another blonde woman... Alex. That means that Alex is actually the actress from the movie in the prologue, and she put real bullets in the gun to silence the actor because he was getting too close to the truth! 
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DOWN JACKET FETISH posted:The black guy is Pardo It doesn't bother me, I am not raging at Dennaton because the Fans are in Hawaii. It just felt weird because the Fans feel characterized as, again, young, less experienced, who don't really know what they're doing (Corey's wearing like skateboard kneepads and stuff, iirc). The sort of implication is that they're copycat thrillseekers of Jacket, and not getting 50 Blessings phonecalls, nor are they scarred and bigoted against Russians. So having them actually be veterans from Hawaii seems to be something that isn't really reflected or reinforced anywhere else in the game.
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Yeah, I see your point with that. It is explicitly spelled out that D Company are the other troops in the area and that they're comparative pussies, though. The real dyed-in-the-wool killers are Ghost Wolves, the pale imitations are D Company. I wouldn't say the Fans are specifically characterised as young, though. Just lesser.
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DOWN JACKET FETISH posted:Yeah, I see your point with that. It is explicitly spelled out that D Company are the other troops in the area and that they're comparative pussies, though. The real dyed-in-the-wool killers are Ghost Wolves, the pale imitations are D Company. Well, Alex is playing a gameboy and she/Ash wear football gear. They also talk in more slang. Besides the Ghost Wolves storm a fortified Russian base with like 1 guy. Even if D-Company is comparatively bad they could be as good as 10 soldiers themselves. 
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Anatharon posted:Well, Alex is playing a gameboy and she/Ash wear football gear. They also talk in more slang. That's not Alex- Alex is on the left side, next to Ash. The black person in the right corner playing a gameboy goes unidentified. Part of the problem here is that all of the male Fans aside from Mark are apparently identically bald and white.
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Discendo Vox posted:That's not Alex- Alex is on the left side, next to Ash. The black person in the right corner playing a gameboy goes unidentified. I'm talking about before Moving Up. No idea why both Tony and Ash are bald though. Maybe they felt if Ash was blonde people'd confuse him for Manny or Jacket.
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Bit late to Beard chat but I just want to point out that in the scene where he gets nuked, he's talking to Jacket and he could be consoling him about a breakup because he says something like 'time heals all wounds' before asking about the photo. The first time you see Beard in the first game, he says something about not having seen Jacket since he broke up with his girlfriend. You might say I'm reaching there but I think it's a nice touch.
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I also have no idea what the heck happened with the actor re-enacting the first game. The Pig Butcher stuff made less than no sense, and its the whole "no diea what was real and what was a hallucination" problem writ large.
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Stargate posted:Bit late to Beard chat but I just want to point out that in the scene where he gets nuked, he's talking to Jacket and he could be consoling him about a breakup because he says something like 'time heals all wounds' before asking about the photo. The first time you see Beard in the first game, he says something about not having seen Jacket since he broke up with his girlfriend. I think he's just talking about the wounds Jacket's got from that explosion
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Stargate posted:Bit late to Beard chat but I just want to point out that in the scene where he gets nuked, he's talking to Jacket and he could be consoling him about a breakup because he says something like 'time heals all wounds' before asking about the photo. The first time you see Beard in the first game, he says something about not having seen Jacket since he broke up with his girlfriend. He actually says "losing your girlfriend". It might be sadder than just a breakup. Basically, this is Jacket starting to get coma dreams, and Richter shot his girlfriend quite recently from his frame of reference. So his Beard-construct-fantasy dude is offering condolences on that.
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Narcissus1916 posted:I also have no idea what the heck happened with the actor re-enacting the first game. The Pig Butcher stuff made less than no sense, and its the whole "no diea what was real and what was a hallucination" problem writ large. He was acting in a movie. In level 4 he gets shot by a prop gun that isn't a prop, it is just a gun. It is a microcosm of the whole game being about how violence consumes you and also a contrast for Manny, who is the exact inverse of The Pig Butcher. Manny is completely about blasé about killing people. Violence is just a job for him and he is entirely unemotional about it, but he desperately wants to be famous. It doesn't matter if it's as the cop that caught the Miami Mutilator or the cop that was really the Miami Mutilator. He wants to be a a loose cannon that doesn't play by anyone's rules but his own but he gets results consarnit!! On the other hand, Martin Brown is completely disinterested in his movie stardom. He's famous and probably rich but he doesn't really seem to care or view it as anything more than just how it is. Inside he really wants to go out and kill people, so he instead acts it out in movies that seem completely real to him.
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DOWN JACKET FETISH posted:He actually says "losing your girlfriend". It might be sadder than just a breakup. Huh, yeah. It's easy to forget that the timeline is actually more hosed up than it at first appears.
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Mar 28, 2015 00:05
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Yeah! Just beath the game. Now onto hard mode.
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Isaacs Alter Ego posted:Well at the end of hotline miami 1, Jacket burns a photograph that is the same as the one Beard gives the guy he rescues. Additionally, they look the same, have the same habit of constantly smoking and both never talk. A little late but I never felt likeJacket burned the photo. He takes it out, looks at it while smoking, then lets it go into the wind. Burning it doesn't seem to make sense. DOWN JACKET FETISH posted:He actually says "losing your girlfriend". It might be sadder than just a breakup. It's two different conversations. The one before Beard gets nuked in HM2 is ambiguous as to what Beard is talking about, but could be him consoling Jacket about a break-up. The one after the first stage of HM1 has Beard explicitly consoling Jacket for the loss of his girlfriend, which is part of the coma dreams, pre-emptively about Richter shooting Hooker. RandallODim fucked around with this message at 00:42 on Mar 28, 2015 |
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Stargate posted:Bit late to Beard chat but I just want to point out that in the scene where he gets nuked, he's talking to Jacket and he could be consoling him about a breakup because he says something like 'time heals all wounds' before asking about the photo. The first time you see Beard in the first game, he says something about not having seen Jacket since he broke up with his girlfriend. I thought he was talking about Richter shooting hooker.
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I like to think the "time heals all wounds" speech was intended to be supportive of Jacket after he suffered some form of PTSD after being in the war, and what happened next set him off completely.
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I am still looking 100% forwards to Hotline Kavkaz, and if you are not, you are a bad. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOVXxVZw0gU
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The soundtrack is completely not Hotline Miami but it sure is baller af http://steamcommunity.com/app/348020/discussions/0/611701999524121907/ quote:Recently Bloodbath Kavkaz, a reckless Hotline Miami parody, appeared on Steam. The story about the adventures of the Caucasian Shamil in the night Moscow blew Russian Internet up (haha), and now lots of gamers are waiting to play it. Pretty much imagining the interviewer being 
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Mar 28, 2015 04:19
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Bloodbath Kavkaz, funded by Boomstarter, coming to Smoke next month. Pre order now!
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Is it confirmed this is a real thing and not dennaton loving around
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAERw1XA0YE This song alone should answer your question.
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What if Jake made a video game nominally about himself? That question will be answered April 20th.
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Finally finished this. I didn't get the achivement for not killing anyone as the writer though, what gives? Do you have to some how not kill that very first door man guy? There's no way to avoid beating the poo poo out of him right?
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