Beast of Bourbon posted:

on 3 cast iron pans though, not sure why we keep getting them, they're gone from the registry.

Beast of Bourbon posted:

on 3 cast iron pans though, not sure why we keep getting them, they're gone from the registry.

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​Active Uber accounts are for sale on a dark web marketplace for as little as $1 each, Motherboard has learned.

One seller claims he has “thousands” of user logins for sale.

A username and password is all you need to access a user’s trip history, which may include personal details such as a home address. While full credit card information is not exposed, the last four digits and expiration date of the user’s card are viewable in a user’s account.

Over on AlphaBay market, a recently launched dark web site, vendor Courvoisier has a listing for 'x1 UBER ACCOUNT - WORLDWIDE TAXI!’ For the meager sum of $1, anyone can anonymously purchase an Uber username and password.

Another vendor, ThinkingForward, has a similar offer, but for $5. “I will guarantee that they are valid and live ONLY. Discounts on bulk purchases,” ThinkingForward writes on his product listing.

According to Courvoisier, once you’ve bought the login, it’s a simple step to ordering a cab.

“Log in on the Uber mobile website on your phone and book a cab ” he or she told me in a private message.

A representative for Uber said the company is “investigating” the listings.

Motherboard received a sample of the usernames and passwords available and verified that at least some of the accounts were active by contacting those users. The data includes names, usernames, passwords, partial credit card data, and telephone numbers for Uber customers.

Motherboard reached out to one of the users whose email address and password was put up for sale: James Allan, sales director for OISG, a technology solutions company.

Allan confirmed that the username and password Motherboard had seen were correct, as well as the expiry date on his personal credit card. He doesn’t actually use Uber anymore, and the last trip he booked was in December 2013.

“Bloody hell,” Allan said over the phone, when he was told what his password was.

In a statement, an Uber spokesperson said:

“We are looking into this and do not have any information to share at this time. We use state of the art technology to prevent, detect, and investigate fraud. It’s important to note that attempting this type of fraud is illegal, and we take appropriate action when we confirm fraud, including notifying the proper authorities.”

H.P. Hovercraft posted:

qirex posted:

they're way behind on that one

The Leck posted:

Dolomite posted:

death


to


america

Chris Knight posted:

Chris Knight posted:

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Mark22 | 24. Februar 2014

I'm trying to do that now with Uber.
Their background check contractor is backed up big time. I have been waiting over two weeks for the background check to be completed.
I am starting with our 60. I don't think I want to be hauling strangers around in our Sig.
However, once we get our Model X I plan to sign up for Uber SUV (if the background check is complete by then:)).

To me this seems to be the best way to give the most people a chance to experience EVs.

Subjunctive posted:

uber (not uberx, the original formula) was definitely a business model. lots of people will pay a premium for better service. they were doing fine.

NoneMoreNegative posted:

https://medium.com/matter/the-shut-in-economy-ec3ec1294816

crusader_complex posted:

saw this and went a-googling, (dunno if someone posted any of this yet), trying to find some laffs about commercial use voiding the warranty, but according to the thread the standard warranty applies but they wont sell you an extended warranty. no idea if thats true, sounds reasonable i guess.

this post confounded me though:


guys got 2 teslas, just mashin around 'giving people a chance to experience EVs'?

the talent deficit posted:

sure but uber wasn't an infinity jillion dollar business that would get travis in newsweek's top 40 billionaires under 40 issue. without uberx and piece work backed by predatory loans as a service travis was just going to be another joe millionaire living in a lovely house in laurel heights

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I'm no longer tipping waiters and bartenders

I drive way too many of them without getting tipped...

We don't 'have' to tip you either.

Might even ask them if they tip their 'ubers' before stiffing them.

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No sign it like this. Your service was great the table was clean. However due to me not receiving tips as an Uber driver I can not afford to tip you. Have a nice day.

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I actually did it Saturday night. Went to a local mexican joint where I had dropped a bartender off 3 times with no tip. When I sat at the bar she noticed me said "hey how's it going" I ate had two margaritas paid the bill left no tip. I'll probably see her this week and then we will discuss...

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Was just thinking about this last night. I don't go out much anymore but why should I tip a bartender but I don't get tips? And, yes, I've driven many bartenders/waiters to and from work and don't get tipped...even after giving them a cigarette and/or waiting for them to get in the building safely...and more beyond the call of duty.

I even tip on carry outs but no more. Chicago has an extremely high Mexican service worker population here. Even at a well known Italian restaurant, the host, waitress, cook and delivery person is most likely to be Mexican.

Now last night I got a ride request from a female at a Mexican market. She texted the ride was for her husband. I asked for his name and she never responded. Moments later a guy knocks on my window and gives the wife's name. No problem, I'll do it. He pops the hatch open and another worker carts this big thing out and they loaded literally 60 bags in my car. Trip was less than a mile and I won't go into detail regarding the unloading.

They could have tipped for this excessive waiting especially on such a short trip.

Unfortunately, I will remember this.

I know bartenders in this town that live in fancy highrises and make about $65k/year and most of it is cash. They were doing even better before the economy tanked.

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No, you got it wrong, order expensive stuff, demand refills, order several courses (appetizer, salad, main course, alcoholic beverages, dessert), talk to the other customers and mention that he doesn't tip others, bitch about the service to his manager, and then leave him 3 stars on the tip line of the receipt. Sign it and put, "remember to tip your Uber driver" under your signature.

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I deliver pizza part time. I started with UBER to see if I'd make more money doing that... since I liked the idea of not having to request off or get my shift covered if I was tired from my full-time gig or wanted to make plans (I deliver fri & sat nights, mainly.)

Jury is still out on Uber being a worthwhile replacement. But it isn't looking good for them.

Anyway, I have delivered food to plenty of barber shops/hair salons and frequently have gotten no tip, and not a single cent if it was paid by a credit card. This is an occupation, like a waiter/waitress that depends on tips! So I've always dreamed of going there and getting my hair cut by the same person and either tip them the change I got, or tip them nothing in return. The problem is that these places don't really cut white peoples hair so If I went through with it, I think it would come off as way more adversarial than I would intend.

Subjunctive posted:

I'm not arguing otherwise, simply that -- counter to nbsd's assertion -- uber as reseller of surplus limo service is a viable business, even though its primary character is "with an app".

uber posted:

Do I need to tip my driver?

You don’t need cash when you ride with Uber. Once you arrive at your destination, your fare is automatically charged to your credit card on file — there’s no need to tip.

qirex posted:

when I've taken sidecar it gives you to option to give them more money in the app before you pay, does uber not do this?

qirex posted:

when I've taken sidecar it gives you to option to give them more money in the app before you pay, does uber not do this?

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

my post excluded uber from the list of things that cannot exist as legal businesses

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

"$SERVICE, but with a mobile app!" isn't a business model

"$SERVICE, but with hilarious margins built on dubiously legal exploitation of 1099 workers!" might be a viable business, we're finding that out now

qirex posted:

when I've taken sidecar it gives you to option to give them more money in the app before you pay, does uber not do this?

Subjunctive posted:

I missed that part.

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"$SERVICE, but with a mobile app!" isn't a viable business model

eschaton posted:

they're just like the SF business owners who put a line item on every bill about "SF healthcare tax" because they're required to provide insurance for their workers, to make it look to the public like there's a separate tax making their meal or whatever more expensive.

Main Paineframe posted:

remember that uber's policies explicitly say not to tip their drivers. surprisingly this doesn't stop uber drivers from getting really mad about not getting tips, especially from poor people, minorities, and "whores" (surprisingly a lot of uber drivers are apparently racist and sexist, who'da thought!?)

http://uberpeople.net/threads/im-no-longer-tipping-waiters-and-bartenders.10389/

eschaton posted:

is a reasonable statement if the definition of "viable" is "makes me a billionaire before age 40" like it is for many venture-backed startups

angry_keebler posted:

if all the drivers are getting such poo poo pay why don't they disrupt the disruptors and start a coop uber where profits are shared with all the drivers and poach all the uber guys making less than minimum wage

qirex posted:

yeah a bunch of restaurants in sf got busted for this, not just that but the ones that got their names released were given a chance to actually put that money aside for healthcare and refused to

Subjunctive posted:

only the highest-profile ones. virtually all the founders I know would be ecstatic with a $10M outcome for themselves, as one would hope.

eschaton posted:

that's why I said "venture-backed startups"

if he were happy with a 10M payout he wouldn't have taken funding in the first place, because VCs certainly won't be happy with that little money. and even given how badly VCs can screw founders, they'd prefer the founder take a billion if it means many billions for them: VCs explicitly sell founders on huge payouts in order to ensure the VCs get a big multiple of that. base hits that end in steady medium-sized businesses (privately or publicly held) or modestly-valued acquisitions are failures to the VC mind.

hobbesmaster posted:

you are grossly overestimating the amount of money in the average startup. there's a ton out there that you have never heard of and will never hear of because they took 1-2mil in funding and sold a few years later for 30-50mil

eschaton posted:

I thought at one time uber let you do that but they took 20% or something and a court said "no skimming from tips, assholes" so they got rid of it entirely

kind of like the courts said "real background checks, assholes" so they tacked a dollar onto each fare and called it a "safe rides fee"

they're just like the SF business owners who put a line item on every bill about "SF healthcare tax" because they're required to provide insurance for their workers, to make it look to the public like there's a separate tax making their meal or whatever more expensive.

Nintendo Kid posted:

they also often aren't anywhere near silicon valley or sf

THC posted:

in Canada all the cell phone carriers use to charge a $12 a month "system access fee". a few years ago the feds finally told them to knock it off, so they replaced it with a $3 a month "government regulatory fee"

it makes it sound like the money is going to the government but it's actually 100% profit for the cell company

more recently one of them claimed to be "very disappointed" when a judge told them they can't charge a fee for 911 service from customers in areas that have no 911 service