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Computer viking
May 30, 2011
Now with less breakage.

It's only fair to mention that the Pendolinos are doing mostly fine in a number of other countries; this is more of a UK system failure than a train design failure.

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Brovine
Dec 24, 2011

Mooooo?

Computer viking posted:

It's only fair to mention that the Pendolinos are doing mostly fine in a number of other countries; this is more of a UK system failure than a train design failure.

Despite the name and being from the same group of companies, if I remember right there's not a lot of similarity between the UK Pendolino and the trains of that name anywhere else. Even the tilting mechanism is completely different, I think.

Pigsfeet on Rye
Oct 22, 2008

I'm meat on the hoof
So I've been reading through Axeman Jim's posts on BR, and I have to ask: How does the UK even have a rail system left? It seems like every locomotive that they put out is lovely, the physical rail system has been hosed over, neglected, and stabbed in the back for a century now, and the bureaucracy really seems to have its head up its rear end.

Tex Avery
Feb 13, 2012
Axeman Jim, thanks for taking the time to write these up. I love it! It's nice to see failures on the other side of the pond.

Esmerelda
Dec 1, 2009

Stick Insect posted:

Edit/update: http://nos.nl/artikel/2027162-advies-ns-ga-niet-met-de-trein.html "Please do not take the train", says the train operator. :ironicat:
Years ago when I lived there I remember Utrecht losing power, it may have been ice related, and shutting down pretty much everything.

Stick Insect
Oct 24, 2010

My enemies are many.

My equals are none.
Yeah Utrecht is the busiest station and junction, so if something breaks there, everything connected to it gets to enjoy delays too :downs:

There are some plans to make the track layout more sensible so it's less of a weak spot.

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

raring to post

Going back a little bit to people talking about at-grade crossings with third rail trains, you can see how the handle it in this Chicago CTA Brown line vid. The at grade crossings are all early on, but if you're a mega nerd like me, the rest is great too. CTA has an HD video for all of their lines and it owns for nerdin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wsmXP5Cp2o

TheNakedJimbo
Nov 18, 2004

If you die first, I am definitely going to eat you. The question is, if I die first...what are YOU gonna do?
My daughter loves trains, as well as airplanes (we build model planes together), fire trucks, and all sorts of things that just make me a giddy dad. She also loves princess dresses and tutus, so I think we have the best of both worlds.

How much does she love trains, you ask?

http://vid179.photobucket.com/albums/w301/TheNakedJimbo/train.mp4

:3:

Hyperriker
Nov 1, 2008

ur fukt m8

Get her into a signal box!

"There's a train! Oh there's another one. And another one. Another one down here!"

...probably only effective if it looks out over a junction, but hey, some of those still exist

JuffoWup
Mar 28, 2012

Hyperriker posted:

Get her into a signal box!

"There's a train! Oh there's another one. And another one. Another one down here!"

...probably only effective if it looks out over a junction, but hey, some of those still exist

One example is Cincinnati's Union Terminal.

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose
Honestly if the Pendolinos had better seats they'd be fine. Not necessarily more room per passenger, but seats that don't feel like they're meant to recline but can't actually manage it so you spend the entire trip one degree away from being comfortable.

B4Ctom1
Oct 5, 2003

OVERWORKED COCK
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RandomPauI posted:

I thought the Metrolink crash was gross neglegence on the part of the driver. He was busy chatting with kids on a cellphone and not really paying attention.

To this day I wonder if I'd met the teens before. I took the line a a few times a week in the months before the crash. I saw a group of young teens setting up their cameras to film the passing trains.

Nope

The FRA needed desperately a watershed event related to texting to use to bring the hammer down on train and engine service employees. It is a good thing too because there had already been a few small events, plus a few with busses related to cell phones. It was just a matter of time before something bad happened. So it really didn't even matter if this was one of those incidents or not, this was "good enough".

Showing up to a wreck scene where the news people were already waving a kids cell phone in front of the camera showing texts was like a match made in heaven for the agenda.

The train he ran headlong into could see him coming for a long ways. They put their train into emergency and it had stopped or almost stopped. They said he was staring at them and never even placed his lovely little train into emergency. Lets not forget that he ran not one or two but 3 red signals, completely missing the siding they were going to put him into so that Roseville train could pass.

I used to incessantly gently caress with my phone while running before the rule. I am glad the rule exists. But there is no loving way. A distracted engineer could definitely get distracted and pass a red stop signal. They do so, and have been doing so since before there even was such a thing as a cellphone. When they do they realize it immediately and stop. Too little too late, but they stop, often with an accident, but generally only feet past it. But to run multiple signals? I can't even think of an analogy that could describe how unlikely this is, even if you are sleeping, drunk, or loving with your phone.

I want you to read this and draw a few conclusions of your own. Read it very very closely, don't just skim or you will miss the best parts.
http://articles.latimes.com/2008/sep/17/local/me-engineer17

Rude Dude With Tude
Apr 19, 2007

Your President approves this text.

ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:

Honestly if the Pendolinos had better seats they'd be fine. Not necessarily more room per passenger, but seats that don't feel like they're meant to recline but can't actually manage it so you spend the entire trip one degree away from being comfortable.

Also if the loving toilets worked so the drat things don't smell like piss half the time. Though this is obviously fixed by doing some maintenance, but Virgin aren't going to do that so we all get to suck it until 2017.

E: train hungry

Rude Dude With Tude fucked around with this message at 19:26 on Mar 31, 2015

McDeth
Jan 12, 2005

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad posted:

Also if the loving toilets worked so the drat things don't smell like piss half the time. Though this is obviously fixed by doing some maintenance, but Virgin aren't going to do that so we all get to suck it until 2017.

E: train hungry



That's what you get when you make trains out of plastic instead of strong American steel.

Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

God damn it, you've got to be kind.
Through a strange series of events the company I work for has come to own a short-line railroad. :toot:

Slung Blade
Jul 11, 2002

IN STEEL WE TRUST

Dick Trauma posted:

Through a strange series of events the company I work for has come to own a short-line railroad. :toot:

Is it a real estate investment concern represented by an old boot, small terrier, old fashioned iron, thimble, or a boat?

Also, awesome. Can you get some pictures or a map or something? I love short lines.

Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

God damn it, you've got to be kind.
I'm trying to talk my way into a trip there, it's out of state. And has nothing at all to do with my job function. Unfortunately I'm the only one here interested in trains.

Someone's sending me an equipment report so I can see what they're running. I doubt there's anything newer than 1970.

EDIT: I have a fax of a fax and can only make out some of the info. Mix of Alco C420 and C424 units.

Dick Trauma fucked around with this message at 17:14 on Apr 3, 2015

BrokenKnucklez
Apr 22, 2008

by zen death robot
Minnesota Commercial RR?

They run a ton of old poo poo.

neckbeard
Jan 25, 2004

Oh Bambi, I cried so hard when those hunters shot your mommy...
My father lost his battle with cancer last week and I've been going through some of his old photos, he worked for CP Rail for a long time, here's some pics from 1991 when he was working on clearing some tracks that got blocked by an avalanche somewhere in the Sunshine Coast area of BC





Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

God damn it, you've got to be kind.
Sorry about your dad.

Mao Zedong Thot
Oct 16, 2008


neckbeard posted:

My father lost his battle with cancer last week and I've been going through some of his old photos, he worked for CP Rail for a long time, here's some pics from 1991 when he was working on clearing some tracks that got blocked by an avalanche somewhere in the Sunshine Coast area of BC







Sorry to hear that. Thanks for sharing those!

Tex Avery
Feb 13, 2012
I set up an impromptu dash cam on a Dallas streetcar and recorded a round trip with it. Video incoming shortly.

ctishman
Apr 26, 2005

Oh Giraffe you're havin' a laugh!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_eRWbpQKbg

Stolen from /r/trains. Quick conversation between the (edit) signal operator and train crew.

ctishman fucked around with this message at 19:54 on Apr 6, 2015

B4Ctom1
Oct 5, 2003

OVERWORKED COCK
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click for massive

BrokenKnucklez
Apr 22, 2008

by zen death robot
I am not trying to be all 'Merica, but its a shame that they couldn't make or find a person to build the rail here. :911:

B4Ctom1
Oct 5, 2003

OVERWORKED COCK
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Nope. Put out of business long ago. Thanks NAFTA.

zzuupp
Jan 2, 2012
After the next winter freeze or spring thaw, how many of those become two two-forties.

B4Ctom1
Oct 5, 2003

OVERWORKED COCK
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I wish we could upvote posts.

JuffoWup
Mar 28, 2012
Here is their video on it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghWi4UHZzow

I guess I should have linked it back then, but didn't think anything of it. Or maybe it was posted before and I don't remember. Either way, there you go.

hitze
Aug 28, 2007
Give me a dollar. No, the twenty. This is gonna blow your mind...

The comments are great

BrokenKnucklez
Apr 22, 2008

by zen death robot
Building America by importing foreign rail!

Oh corporate America :downs:

CAT INTERCEPTOR
Nov 9, 2004

Basically a male Margaret Thatcher

JuffoWup posted:

Here is their video on it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghWi4UHZzow

I guess I should have linked it back then, but didn't think anything of it. Or maybe it was posted before and I don't remember. Either way, there you go.

I cant see Japan doing rail any cheaper than the USA. So ummmm..... seriously? They couldnt source what they wanted in the USA??!?!?! That just sounds so unlikely.

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

raring to post

Cat Terrist posted:

I cant see Japan doing rail any cheaper than the USA. So ummmm..... seriously? They couldnt source what they wanted in the USA??!?!?! That just sounds so unlikely.

Yes I'm sure they retrofitted a ship and sent it across the pacific because it was the MORE expensive option.

Axeman Jim
Nov 21, 2010

The Canadians replied that they would rather ride a moose.
Here in Blighty we proudly make and repair our own rail :colbert:






So far it's going really well.

B4Ctom1
Oct 5, 2003

OVERWORKED COCK
Slippery Tilde

Cat Terrist posted:

I cant see Japan doing rail any cheaper than the USA. So ummmm..... seriously? They couldnt source what they wanted in the USA??!?!?! That just sounds so unlikely.

In Japan, the government spends its money via investment in companies to improve international trade and keep or even create new jobs. There are no corporations trying to buy the government to cut each other's throats and the throats of the citizens within the country.

This allows the building or refitting of ships, and the ability to undercut american steel plants. Are there even any left?

NoWake
Dec 28, 2008

College Slice
Bethlehem has been turned into a casino. If that isn't the biggest gut-punch to American industrialism, what is?

JuffoWup
Mar 28, 2012

B4Ctom1 posted:

Are there even any left?

Yes. Or at least, I know of one locally for me.

http://www.aksteel.com/

Strawberry
Jul 20, 2005

here is no why

B4Ctom1 posted:

Are there even any left?

http://www.evrazna.com/

As far as I've seen most of the new rail that has been laid on the Big oraNge since I've been on comes from there. Also, as far as I know our switch points, stock rails, frogs, and insulated joints are American made.

Joint bars are stamped CHINA. I think the bolts are too. That's ok though, they never stay on the main for long anyway.

Stick Insect
Oct 24, 2010

My enemies are many.

My equals are none.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nA-84SIFnSo :stonklol:

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sincx
Jul 13, 2012

furiously masturbating to anime titties
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