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why do people make gifs of almost whole videos now
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Mar 30, 2015 22:33
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Typical Yosposter posted:just don’t vote, thats how i do it gently caress that. the state sends me a ballot in the mail, i'm gonna fuckin fill it out and mail it back in
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Mar 30, 2015 22:40
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dunno who the gently caress this RAYMO SMOOKELS guy is but he's been voting Pacific Green for the past six years and damned if he's gonna stop now
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Mar 30, 2015 22:41
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Boxturret posted:why do people make gifs of almost whole videos now um excuse me that's a gifv
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Mar 30, 2015 22:41
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vif very insertion force
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Mar 30, 2015 22:45
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JawnV6 posted:vif such processor
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Mar 30, 2015 22:48
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born on a buy you posted:stop quoting stymie you idiots
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Mar 30, 2015 22:52
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stymies only crime is this shouldnt be the thread for this
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Mar 30, 2015 22:54
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lol if you vote
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Welcome to the exciting world of the Silicon Valley derived 'Holacracy', Zappos workers, or take a severance package! What is Holacracy, you ask? Let's first get a brief primer by way of Re/Code, then take a look at the all important holacracy FAQ. Holacracy (as designed by a software development company) combines the best parts of workplace management with the best parts of software engineering! Are you excited yet to see what new horrors await? Let's dive in! "Job titles in a Holacracy-powered company are largely meaningless, though some companies still choose to use them just so the outside world has something they recognize and understand. But within the company, they are totally irrelevant when it comes to power, authority, etc. Instead, people are assigned to one or several Roles. Roles represent a function of work (e.g. "Social Media Marketing" role), even though unlike a job description, roles don't need to represent a 40h/week amount of work (e.g. "Webinar Presenter" role) . It's true, there are no "managers" with Holacracy. Some of the work typically done by managers is now baked into the system itself (e.g., deciding who is accountable for what, which is done via the governance process in Holacracy). Some other work typically done by managers still needs to get done, but instead of centralizing it all into one job, it is broken down and clearly defined into Roles. Finally, there is a core role in each circle called the Lead Link, which by default includes several accountabilities typically attributed to managers (e.g., assigning people to roles in the circle, or resource allocation)." Yes, I may SOUND like a manager, but in reality, I am a Lead Link! Also, being in a 'Holacracy' means that you can not talk about personal things, and in the case of Zappos, must be agreeable to absolute quantification of social interaction. The Downtown Project’s basic premise is that socializing (“colliding”) makes people more successful and more innovative. If this is true, then your time at the bar or walking down a crowded street or meeting someone for a date (Level 1, 2 and 3 collisions, respectively) can be mapped onto the profits of your startup. Their plan is: To track entrepreneurs, they will follow their movements via cellphones, and task the Downtown Project private police force (“The Rangers”) with monitoring body language and behavior (Did you wave hello? Did you hug or shake hands?). Your startup’s performance (How good were sales this month?) will be added to the data mix. Also, according to the FAQ, In one situation, you might have authority over your colleague's role, and in another situation, your colleague might have authority over your role. This won't lead to problems! But things will be ok - just remember to always trust Tony and the Zappos way, because, as the Re/Code article above states, “Tony keeps it tight, keeps it within the llama.”. (lol if this won't die a hilarious death as call center workers set their own hours. I wonder how Amazon will deal with that?)
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Mar 30, 2015 23:14
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Pappyland posted:Welcome to the exciting world of the Silicon Valley derived 'Holacracy', Zappos workers, or take a severance package! so a matrix org
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Mar 30, 2015 23:17
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Pappyland posted:(lol if this won't die a hilarious death as call center workers set their own hours. I wonder how Amazon will deal with that?) this was tackled in the article call center workers are governed by an "open market" system which determines both their (practical) hours and their wages. it was already being gamed on day one
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Mar 30, 2015 23:19
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zappos people are basically cult members that only interact with other zappos members. to the point they had to tell them to stop wearing company gear while going out becuase it was nothing but people in zappos shirts talking to other people in zappos shirts in the down town project
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Mar 30, 2015 23:22
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hobbesmaster posted:so a matrix org Not according to Medium! Look at this chart!  (I'm the arrow labeled 'stuff')
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Mar 30, 2015 23:22
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tony hsieh also abanadoned the downtown project because it turns out it had no real goal and was just wasting money
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Mar 30, 2015 23:23
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i'm sure las vegas is a great place to operate a call center i'm not so sure it's a great place to build a walkable neighborhood filled with tech startups and coffee shops
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Mar 30, 2015 23:26
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this is a thing of beauty. i always love to watch social engineering at the hands of people who have no concept of human behaviour infernal machines fucked around with this message at 23:50 on Mar 30, 2015 |
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Mar 30, 2015 23:37
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loooooooooooool
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Mar 30, 2015 23:42
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how many times can nerds fail to learn the same lesson about how anarchic social principles don't actually work in real life, at least not if your intention is to accomplish anything
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Mar 30, 2015 23:43
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born on a buy you posted:zappos people are basically cult members that only interact with other zappos members. to the point they had to tell them to stop wearing company gear while going out becuase it was nothing but people in zappos shirts talking to other people in zappos shirts in the down town project they basically all live in the same two buildings also
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Mar 30, 2015 23:47
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time to sciz
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Mar 30, 2015 23:48
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infernal machines posted:how many times can nerds fail to learn the same lesson about how anarchic social principles don't actually work in real life, at least not if your intention is to accomplish anything does this mean zappos is turning into Noisebridge Las Vegas?
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Mar 30, 2015 23:52
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infernal machines posted:how many times can nerds fail to learn the same lesson about how anarchic social principles don't actually work in real life, at least not if your intention is to accomplish anything goretex is making it work anyone from outside the company interacting with them describes it as terrible, but internally they're apparently quite content?
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Mar 30, 2015 23:55
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zappos actually has managers that do management tihng htey just like to act as if they're not. any output from zappos about their internal structure is marketing so consumers feel like they're helping a liberal company
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Mar 30, 2015 23:55
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eschaton posted:does this mean zappos is turning into Noisebridge Las Vegas? did you look at the re/code article? it already has, for exactly the reasons you'd expect. and some folks killed themselves too
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Mar 30, 2015 23:55
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Pinterest Mom posted:you should call people what they want to be called, calling him a name he hasn't used since he was six is some dog whistle "he ain't like us" bullshit somebody's already said it in the pages i'm skipping, but just in case: barack hussein obama rafael edward cruz on one hand, i want to rub their nose in "rafael", but it's just not right 
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Mar 30, 2015 23:58
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JawnV6 posted:goretex is making it work i have no idea what goretex is doing but if it resembles holocracy in anything more than a vaguely passing manner i can guarantee it won't last for long it's not like this is the first, or even fiftieth time someone has tried to take the "politics" out of organization and human interaction. it literally never works. and almost always for the same reason. the politics are an emergent property of the interaction of people, you can factor them in, manage them, but you can not remove them without removing all the people as well
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Mar 30, 2015 23:58
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Stymie posted:what would you call it i'm not going to write your loving posts for you
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Mar 30, 2015 23:59
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:don't care, i'm voting third party anyway like i did last election https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAT_BuJAI70
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Mar 30, 2015 23:59
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Pinterest Mom posted:loooooooooooool *turns out to be a hobby/papercraft service where they will drive a van full of paper cutters to your home*
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Mar 31, 2015 00:00
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time to have a cuppa
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born on a buy you posted:zappos actually has managers that do management tihng htey just like to act as if they're not. any output from zappos about their internal structure is marketing so consumers feel like they're helping a liberal company no poo poo. of course they do, if they didn't they wouldn't be a company for long.
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Mar 31, 2015 00:03
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bobbilljim posted:time to have a cuppa time to use an internet sex app to help me find someone to go have a coffee with me
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born on a buy you posted:zappos actually has managers that do management tihng htey just like to act as if they're not. any output from zappos about their internal structure is marketing so consumers feel like they're helping a liberal company This is exactly how it was when I worked at Zappos when holacracy was implemented. We technically didn't have supervisors but everyone was doing what they were before just with new names. He just recently sent an email out that he wants things to truly change and that severance offer is mostly for managers that will lose a lot of their pay and power starting next year if they stay. Zappos has a lot of managers that do nothing. Notorious b.s.d. posted:this was tackled in the article Yep. No one comes in on Mondays and apparently there's always a 5-10 minute hold time to speak with someone. A lot of people are now working the minimum hours required to keep their health insurance. Most people have lost faith in Hsieh and at their last quarterly meeting like half the company left early and he sent out a pissy email the next day.
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Mar 31, 2015 00:04
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eric posted:there's always a 5-10 minute hold time to speak with someone.
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Mar 31, 2015 00:08
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FMguru posted:its their focus on the customer above all else that makes zappos really shine I still can't believe Amazon hasn't stepped in yet and taken over.
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Mar 31, 2015 00:11
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eric posted:Yep. No one comes in on Mondays and apparently there's always a 5-10 minute hold time to speak with someone. A lot of people are now working the minimum hours required to keep their health insurance. hmm, yes, we'll just make these hundreds of people responsible to themselves and each other. that will surely take care of all of our management and resource allocation issues what do you mean no one wants to work?
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Mar 31, 2015 00:11
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infernal machines posted:hmm, yes, we'll just make these hundreds of people responsible to themselves and each other. that will surely take care of all of our management and resource allocation issues LOL every time they try something like this it backfires horribly. They probably know they shouldn't have done it but it was response to the growing anger over lack of pay raises.
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infernal machines posted:i have no idea what goretex is doing but if it resembles holocracy in anything more than a vaguely passing manner i can guarantee it won't last for long been going for over 50 years, so
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