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Just sort of musing out loud here, but does Minister of Pain have a place in a Sidisi Whip deck? It occupies a weird space between Doomwake Giant and Drown in Sorrow. It's a smaller body than Doomwake (potentially no body at all), but much faster on the curve. It doesn't pack the punch that Drown in Sorrow has, but DiS is dead if you mill it with Sidisi, whereas Minister of Pain nets you a 2/2 zombie and can be whipped back into play. Also Drown in Sorrow takes out your own Zombies too... T2 Wayfinder, T3 Minister of Pain is a nice curve against Jeskai Tokens. Dungeon Ecology fucked around with this message at 07:34 on Mar 31, 2015 |
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AgentSythe posted:Owen Turtenwald seems like kind of a cock Owen is awful http://www.channelfireball.com/articles/the-5-best-and-5-worst-formats-of-all-time/
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Mar 31, 2015 07:33
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Fish Of Doom posted:Owen is awful When he says the fourth best Standard was RTR/Theros you know he's just loving with you and he can go to hell (coming from a remorseful Mono-U Devotion player). e: unrelated but why is it called Pucatrade with Pucapoints, I pronounce it "Puke" and nobody likes Puke, and points makes me think of Buttcoins? So Pukebuttcoins? Was their marketer on coke?
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Mar 31, 2015 08:19
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Fish Of Doom posted:Owen is awful I dunno I think Owen is an rear end but most of those opinions are pretty good.
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Mar 31, 2015 08:21
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Four Score posted:e: unrelated but why is it called Pucatrade with Pucapoints, I pronounce it "Puke" and nobody likes Puke, and points makes me think of Buttcoins? So Pukebuttcoins? Was their marketer on coke?  Wezlar posted:I dunno I think Owen is an rear end but most of those opinions are pretty good. One of the comments said it best, it's a list of formats Owen was good at, and ones that he's not.
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Mar 31, 2015 08:28
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Alright I updated my sidisi whip build but haven't tested it yet against anyone. I'm NOT buying any whisperwood shitheads, but feel free to let me know if anyone has any suggestions. Land (23) 3x Forest 1x Island 4x Llanowar Wastes 4x Opulent Palace 3x Polluted Delta 2x Swamp 4x Temple of Malady 1x Windswept Heath 1x Yavimaya Coast Enchantment (2) 2x Frontier Siege Creature (24) 3x Courser of Kruphix 3x Hornet Queen 4x Satyr Wayfinder 4x Sidisi, Brood Tyrant 2x Sidisi, Undead Vizier 4x Sylvan Caryatid 1x Tasigur, the Golden Fang 3x Torrent Elemental 1x Soul of Innistrad Instant (7) 2x Hero's Downfall 4x Murderous Cut 1x Silence the Believers Artifact (4) 3x Whip of Erebos Sideboard (15) 2x Bile Blight 3x swan song 2x Disdainful Stroke 2x Negate 3x Reclamation Sage 3x Thoughtseize
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Mar 31, 2015 08:33
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Wezlar posted:I dunno I think Owen is an rear end but most of those opinions are pretty good. He's super spot on about Modern Also anyone who's good at AVR Sealed is the literal devil
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Mar 31, 2015 08:38
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If you can acquire a 4th Courser easily, there's probably no reason not to run it, especially with fetches. -1 Torrent, +1 Tasigur? Guy's a loving beast in UB control, even better when you delve away unwanted cards. If I'm entirely off base, I apologise; I play red and related decks so I'm just going by what I hate seeing.
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Mar 31, 2015 08:40
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TheKingofSprings posted:Also anyone who's good at AVR Sealed is the literal devil
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So I visited 3 different local shops today looking to grab a playset of Shorecrasher Elemental and all 3 were sold out of them. Did everyone within a 10 mile radius of me just have the same jank idea I did or is there a real potential Mono-U deck in this Standard?
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Mar 31, 2015 09:06
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Nobody is opening Dragons and nobody seems to be trading in what little they open either. Staples have felt much harder to track down than usual. It's a hard to evaluate set with a low EV so I think a lot of people are hanging on to cards and waiting to see what's at the PT.
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Tubgoat posted:If you can acquire a 4th Courser easily, there's probably no reason not to run it, especially with fetches. -1 Torrent, +1 Tasigur? Guy's a loving beast in UB control, even better when you delve away unwanted cards. If I'm entirely off base, I apologise; I play red and related decks so I'm just going by what I hate seeing. I ran 4 coursers in the KTK build and i always ended up drawing them when they were useless so I went down to 3. I might move those around though depending or keep one in the side board. I thought about moving to 2 tasigur as well but the elemental can be recurred in the late game over and over where as if they remove Tas he is gone for good and whipping him back doesn't help much, whereas whipping a torrent taps the person out and will usually let me swing for lethal or a good chunk of damage and life gain at least. I need to play test against a few different decks but this is just the build i currently have together. I do have all the extra cards to move pieces in and out. I also love dropping a hornet queen with a dragon choice seige in play. Board wipe for just the other guy basically.
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Mar 31, 2015 10:43
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qbert posted:So I visited 3 different local shops today looking to grab a playset of Shorecrasher Elemental and all 3 were sold out of them. A lot of people never forgot Master of Waves I guess. I really don't think there's going to be a surprise mono u deck at the PT though
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Mar 31, 2015 10:52
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Fish Of Doom posted:Owen is awful
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Mar 31, 2015 11:15
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mr. mephistopheles posted:Nobody is opening Dragons and nobody seems to be trading in what little they open either. Staples have felt much harder to track down than usual. It's a hard to evaluate set with a low EV so I think a lot of people are hanging on to cards and waiting to see what's at the PT. According to two separate store owners I know, Dragons is their fastest selling set ever. Like, one had to emergency order more boxes for draft this Friday because people actually bought him out. People have Dragons, just not people that are generally trading.
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Mar 31, 2015 12:57
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Skyl3lazer posted:According to two separate store owners I know, Dragons is their fastest selling set ever. Like, one had to emergency order more boxes for draft this Friday because people actually bought him out. People have Dragons, just not people that are generally trading. It doesn't shock me that casuals love the dragoniest dragon set that ever dragoned a dragon.
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Mar 31, 2015 13:10
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Skyl3lazer posted:People have Dragons, just not people that are generally trading.
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Mar 31, 2015 14:24
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I've got the parts for gruul dragons and my stupid temur zoo deck now and I swear I am done buying DTK. Still need to buy a taiga to draw cats on, though.
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Mar 31, 2015 14:29
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Man, I love trading off new poo poo. Get rid of that stuff before the new card scarcity wears off and buy it back later. Sure, sometimes the card does become a multi-format all star, but even then you're not going to lose much unless it's like a Mythic or something. You traded your Siege Rhino away when it was $6 right after release? If you were paying attention over the holiday then you could have re-bought them for cheaper than that. Even stuff like Sarkhan that spiked massively was back down to release-day price after a month or so.
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Jabor posted:Man, I love trading off new poo poo. Get rid of that stuff before the new card scarcity wears off and buy it back later. Sure, sometimes the card does become a multi-format all star, but even then you're not going to lose much unless it's like a Mythic or something. You traded your Siege Rhino away when it was $6 right after release? If you were paying attention over the holiday then you could have re-bought them for cheaper than that. Even stuff like Sarkhan that spiked massively was back down to release-day price after a month or so.
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Skyl3lazer posted:According to two separate store owners I know, Dragons is their fastest selling set ever. Like, one had to emergency order more boxes for draft this Friday because people actually bought him out. People have Dragons, just not people that are generally trading. I was speaking with the owner of my LGS yesterday and he confirmed the same. I went to the pre-release at his store and we barely had 8 players show up but he had to order additional product to stock his binders because people bought out his binder AND all the stock he had. He says he didn't have this much demand for Khans even with fetches!
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Owen's point about RTR is that it had complex and interactive decks. He's got a point that those are good markers for a healthy format, but the issue I see, based on my understanding of a format I missed out on, is that the complexity and interaction was limited to like three decks. Which dominated. Lack of oppression, variety AND complexity and interactivity should be necessary for a healthy format.
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As much as people bitch about Thragtusk, I really liked ISD / RTR standard. There were a ton of cool decks in a variety of archetypes, from UW snapcaster control to that crazy naya humans blitz deck that took off with Burning Tree Emissary being printed in Gatecrash. I miss Augur of Bolas, that card was super sweet. Entropic fucked around with this message at 15:15 on Mar 31, 2015 |
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Mar 31, 2015 15:12
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I cast that card once, put three cards on the bottom of my deck, and never wavered from blinking Thragtusks ever again.
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Entropic posted:As much as people bitch about Thragtusk, I really liked ISD / RTR standard. There were a ton of cool decks in a variety of archetypes, from UW snapcaster control to that crazy naya humans blitz deck that took off with Burning Tree Emissary being printed in Gatecrash. The standard where you could pod Jens into Thragtusk was a great standard.
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Entropic posted:As much as people bitch about Thragtusk, I really liked ISD / RTR standard. There were a ton of cool decks in a variety of archetypes, from UW snapcaster control to that crazy naya humans blitz deck that took off with Burning Tree Emissary being printed in Gatecrash. That standard will always hold a special place in my heart.... as feeling really awful, because I was just getting into magic and my two friends had tier one standard decks that they regularly won events with. I do NOT miss t3 thragtusk, t4 resto angel 
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Entropic posted:As much as people bitch about Thragtusk, I really liked ISD / RTR standard. There were a ton of cool decks in a variety of archetypes, from UW snapcaster control to that crazy naya humans blitz deck that took off with Burning Tree Emissary being printed in Gatecrash. I loved Naya Humans. I went to a friends for Theros pre-release out of town, so that FNM was the last INN/RTR standard. I smashed everyone there with that deck and they were like "uh we haven't seen this deck in like a year" Holy poo poo it was so good with BTE that white 2 drop that made everything CIPT from m14. I beat a UW control player because their flash resto angel couldn't block :P
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jassi007 posted:I loved Naya Humans. I went to a friends for Theros pre-release out of town, so that FNM was the last INN/RTR standard. I smashed everyone there with that deck and they were like "uh we haven't seen this deck in like a year" Holy poo poo it was so good with BTE that white 2 drop that made everything CIPT from m14. I beat a UW control player because their flash resto angel couldn't block :P I can imagine BTE making Champion of the Parish loving huge. Or make it Mardu humans with Champion/BTE/Xathrid Necromancer.
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AlternateNu posted:I can imagine BTE making Champion of the Parish loving huge. I wish humans was good enough for modern, also ghor-clan was funny. I thought about that deck when I saw lightning berserker, he'd be a good addition. Everytime you have spare mana dash him out, make Champion bigger.
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AlternateNu posted:I can imagine BTE making Champion of the Parish loving huge. Or make it Mardu humans with Champion/BTE/Xathrid Necromancer. The ideal start was Turn 1 Cavern of Souls naming Human, Champion of the Parish. Turn 2 any untapped land that taps for R or G, Burning-Tree Emissary into Lightning Mauler, swing for 7.
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Entropic posted:The ideal start was Turn 1 Cavern of Souls naming Human, Champion of the Parish. Turn 2 any untapped land that taps for R or G, Burning-Tree Emissary into Lightning Mauler, swing for 7. So the dream hand was Champion, Cavern, BTE, BTE, BTE, forest, Lightning Mauler, Lightning Mauler, right?  Killing on T3 sounds like the best feeling for a standard deck.
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My RDW currently runs 20 mountains. To play Outpost Siege reliably as a sideboard, you need 21 or 22, yeah? So 21 main deck, 1 mountain in sideboard, or 20 main deck and one in sideboard? Land is tricky. I like that RG RDW that's running around splashing for Atarka's Command. But buying 4 mana confluences seems pricey.
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God drat. Tried to make a Skullbriar Tiny Leader deck and realized it's probably one of the most expensive ones to make it fun. Made Ezuri instead, elf tribal, which was infinitely cheaper (monoG commander deck was so helpful).
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Errant Gin Monks posted:Alright I updated my sidisi whip build but haven't tested it yet against anyone. I'm NOT buying any whisperwood shitheads, but feel free to let me know if anyone has any suggestions. You don't need more than 2 at the absolute most of Torrent Elemental, I'd actually go with 1. You also don't need 3 Hornet Queen's. The whole point of playing the new Sidisi is so you dont have to play as many of those game ending bombs and you can just find them with Sidisi. Also I think you want Thoughtsieze in the MB and a few Duress in the board. You don't want Silence either, It's too slow. Try Suital Charm. I also hate Frontier Siege in this deck.
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Dohaeris posted:My RDW currently runs 20 mountains. To play Outpost Siege reliably as a sideboard, you need 21 or 22, yeah? So 21 main deck, 1 mountain in sideboard, or 20 main deck and one in sideboard?
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En Fuego posted:God drat. Tried to make a Skullbriar Tiny Leader deck and realized it's probably one of the most expensive ones to make it fun. Made Ezuri instead, elf tribal, which was infinitely cheaper (monoG commander deck was so helpful). What cards go into Skullbriar that make him more expensive than like, any 3-color blue leader?
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Oh man, you can Wild Slash a token to prevent Bile Blight from wiping your board? So many little interactions I need to learn.
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Dohaeris posted:Oh man, you can Wild Slash a token to prevent Bile Blight from wiping your board? Did you play during RTR standard? Sacrificing your own Pack Rat token in response to Detention Sphere to save the rest of them was feelgood as gently caress.
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Count Bleck posted:Did you play during RTR standard?
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En Fuego posted:God drat. Tried to make a Skullbriar Tiny Leader deck and realized it's probably one of the most expensive ones to make it fun. Made Ezuri instead, elf tribal, which was infinitely cheaper (monoG commander deck was so helpful). The higher ups at SCG are probably short-stroking it over the number of people buying into some format they invented to jack up the prices on dollar rares
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