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quote:organizations that celebrate and encourage the types of behaviors that facilitate the spreading of the HIV virus What "behaviors" might Pence mean here? 
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Joementum posted:BuzzFeed Andy and his penchant to find old candidate websites in the Internet Archive strikes again: Also on that site: quote:bringing an end to the "don’t ask/don’t tell" policy of permitting homosexuals to serve in the armed forces. Homosexuality is incompatible with military service because the presence of homosexuals in the ranks weakens unit cohesion.
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Mar 31, 2015 20:42
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Joementum posted:What "behaviors" might Pence mean here? Beats me. I'm sure the next sentence about funding institutions that help people "seeking to change their sexual behavior" is entirely unrelated.
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Mar 31, 2015 20:42
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I joined SA because I was sick of all of the bigotry prevalent on Reddit. Also, I had nostalgia for the forums I went to in college. I think the standard BBS format provides more interesting discussion than upvotes or karma or whatever that end up with the most mediocre poo poo floating to the top.
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Mar 31, 2015 20:44
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Fried Chicken posted:State department is calling for extending the Iran talks past Wednesday, citing "recent progress" Breathing an actual sigh of relief here. I'm not so concerned about a nuclear bomb as I am that this is a good chance at making real diplomatic progress with Iran (a la Cuba) and seeing it get pissed away over the exportation condition seems like such wasted potential.
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Mar 31, 2015 20:48
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I joined to take part in LPs,,
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Mar 31, 2015 20:48
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DaveWoo posted:Also on that site: Ha is this stuff going to hurt him in reelection or is this just the finishing blows to a nonexistent presidential primary campaign?
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Mar 31, 2015 20:50
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Nativity In Black posted:I joined SA because I was sick of all of the bigotry prevalent on Reddit. Also, I had nostalgia for the forums I went to in college. I think the standard BBS format provides more interesting discussion than upvotes or karma or whatever that end up with the most mediocre poo poo floating to the top. This is very true - flat forums that bounce topics up to the top of the page upon one reply from a random user provide a very different community experience than a reddit-like concept. I'd read a sociology paper about how infrastructure like that can dictate what the community looks like and talks about. Seems like SA's structure is less amenable to circlejerking/catchphrases in general.
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Mar 31, 2015 20:51
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Joementum posted:What "behaviors" might Pence mean here? Heroin needles as an escape from the realities of a universe that elected noted Butt Bassoonist Mike Pence.
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Mar 31, 2015 20:52
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Raskolnikov38 posted:Ha is this stuff going to hurt him in reelection or is this just the finishing blows to a nonexistent presidential primary campaign? I doubt it. This is stuff that I'm sure nearly all red state governors support, even now. If anything, it shores up their conservative portfolios. I'm guessing it would kill their chances for being President, though.
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Mar 31, 2015 20:54
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In what sounds like the absolute weakest way possible. After they solicit input from the very people they're intended to regulate, of course. And then tweak the proposed rules accordingly because they fear "regulatory overreach". Sure, it's something, I'll give them that, but it looks more like PR regulation to me.
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Mar 31, 2015 20:57
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Joementum posted:What "behaviors" might Pence mean here? Abstinence only education?
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Mar 31, 2015 20:58
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Unzip and Attack posted:This will be glossed over/forgotten in a generation or two, just like the overt and open link between Christianity and the racism inherent in slavery. The loudest defenders of slavery used Bible verses and Christian tradition to argue that their position came from God. The same will happen with persecution of gay people - after a while it will be a liberal lie to mention the link or just straight up quote the Christian bigots of today. In a century? Sure. In a generation or two? Maybe. But right now I think we're just at the start of the backlash against the progress we've made on gay rights. The religious right isn't just going to roll over on this and we're going to be fighting about it for another 20-30 years, like abortion. Even a supreme court ruling won't make them give up, they'll just keep chipping away at it and hope for another Casey decision that gives them cover to block it in the states.
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Mar 31, 2015 20:59
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Raskolnikov38 posted:Ha is this stuff going to hurt him in reelection or is this just the finishing blows to a nonexistent presidential primary campaign? It won't hurt him if he runs for governor or senator, and I'm yet to see anything that makes me think this kind of crap hurts you on a presidential election. Romney beat up a kid for being gay and it was barely a blip in the radar.
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Mar 31, 2015 21:03
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Family Values posted:In a century? Sure. In a generation or two? Maybe. But right now I think we're just at the start of the backlash against the progress we've made on gay rights. The religious right isn't just going to roll over on this and we're going to be fighting about it for another 20-30 years, like abortion. Even a supreme court ruling won't make them give up, they'll just keep chipping away at it and hope for another Casey decision that gives them cover to block it in the states. E: signed up because mspaint threads were so funny I thought the forums deserved my  plus I wanted to get rid of the ads
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Mar 31, 2015 21:04
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Radbot posted:This is very true - flat forums that bounce topics up to the top of the page upon one reply from a random user provide a very different community experience than a reddit-like concept. I'd read a sociology paper about how infrastructure like that can dictate what the community looks like and talks about. Seems like SA's structure is less amenable to circlejerking/catchphrases in general. Explain Games then 
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Mar 31, 2015 21:05
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Fried Chicken posted:Explain Games then There is no explanation.
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Mar 31, 2015 21:07
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Family Values posted:In a century? Sure. In a generation or two? Maybe. But right now I think we're just at the start of the backlash against the progress we've made on gay rights. The religious right isn't just going to roll over on this and we're going to be fighting about it for another 20-30 years, like abortion. Even a supreme court ruling won't make them give up, they'll just keep chipping away at it and hope for another Casey decision that gives them cover to block it in the states. I unfortunately agree. I think it was this thread where someone said "the real fight [for gay rights] was 10 years ago" and I really wish they were right but don't think they are. I think this is just the start of it and we are going to start to see more and more pushback that is more and more unhinged. Jeb Lund had a good summary of how they play it on other issues. These folks have figured out how to play the "space in which to exercise" balance to get what they want, and are way more hot against gays than they are against women.
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Mar 31, 2015 21:11
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Joementum posted:What "behaviors" might Pence mean here? Men who forget about life after 30 and decide it's worth it to go to sex parties where 40 dudes get together. eventually, they get jealous of the people with AIDS, who are the "liberated" ones who don't have to care about who they have sex with, and have private AIDS-only sex parties. so they decide to get HIV and become free of all restrictions so they can party to their hearts consent. it's really painful speaking to guys who lived like that before getting old. Now a bunch of their friends are dead, and as it turns out, living with AIDS isn't quite as carefree as it had seemed like it would be. There's precious little for support groups and treatment to help curb that through education, and by promoting safe sex.
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Mar 31, 2015 21:16
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Fried Chicken and Joementum, if you guys ever come to DC for any reason, we need to have a ~goonmeet~ at the observation gallery in the House. I feel like having a running commentary from people who actually know what's going on combined with restraining to laugh out loud and throw things would be awesome. Also we can finally start the formal impeachment articles for Fried Chicken 
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Mar 31, 2015 21:17
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Radish posted:Yeah Carter helped start financial regulation and repeal federal usury laws. He's kind of like Biden in that he's kinda lovely but gets undeserved points for being a cool/nice guy. I'm trying to find the exact article, but the Congress of 1978 might be one of the most consequential in history, starting the ball with Airline deregulation, usury law relaxation, the Public Utilities Regulatory Policies Act, and dismantling of financial prohibition legislation, that practically wrote the subsequent next few decades. This book posits the administrations of Ford and Carter positioning nominees in regulating bodies over industry (FCC, etc) and the increasing "capture" and sway of industry actors on political and regulatory bodies outside of that as well. In other places, I've seen the intensification of neo-liberal and conservative ideology, the 1979 oil crisis, the growth of transnational corporations and international trade, and event on the DC Circuit Court of Appeals. If anyone else has something on the 95th Congress, I'm all ears.
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Mar 31, 2015 21:18
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Extremely good poo poo
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Mar 31, 2015 21:20
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SgtScruffy posted:Fried Chicken and Joementum, if you guys ever come to DC for any reason, we need to have a ~goonmeet~ at the observation gallery in the House. I feel like having a running commentary from people who actually know what's going on combined with restraining to laugh out loud and throw things would be awesome. Also we can finally start the formal impeachment articles for Fried Chicken
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Mar 31, 2015 21:21
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:There is no way in hell Joementum doesn't live in Washington DC. The second most salient fact about him is the state he lives in bud.
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Mar 31, 2015 21:21
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What is going on in the Missouri Republican Party?
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Mar 31, 2015 21:23
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Don't most resistance bands work with you using your foot as the anchor? I always assumed he was doing some oblique/back strengthening reps and the band snapped, with the way he was pulling, he got spun around, lost his balance, and hit a cabinet.
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Mar 31, 2015 21:24
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MacheteZombie posted:The paywall entices the ignorant. it ensures a healthy mix of the rich and the ignorant.
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Mar 31, 2015 21:26
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Mar 31, 2015 21:28
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The Magic Resistance Band.
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Mar 31, 2015 21:29
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The difference between abortion and gay rights in terms of how "done" we are fighting the fight is that young people view homosexuality as far more acceptable than their parents. Compare that against abortion and it's obvious that gay rights, while it will always be an issue, is undergoing a sea change because of generational differences. Young white people won't grow up and suddenly hate gay people.
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Mar 31, 2015 21:33
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Shageletic posted:If anyone else has something on the 95th Congress, I'm all ears. They also approved Stansfield Turner as head of the CIA. He then promptly laid off around 800 people. It was an attempt to switch from old-school agent spying into technical and signal intelligence. And that, in large part, is why the US was taken by surprise by the Iranian revolution and the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan.
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Mar 31, 2015 21:37
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People manage to find the stupidest ways to accidentally hurt themselves. If he is lying (hint: he's not), then it's probably because it's even more embarrassing than the story he went with. Like, maybe he lost his balance trying to wipe his rear end on the toilet and fell forward.
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Mar 31, 2015 21:37
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Unzip and Attack posted:Young white people won't grow up and suddenly hate gay people. But minorities sure will!  They already do and liberals ignore it because of white guilt.
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Mar 31, 2015 21:39
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Your Gay Uncle posted:it ensures a healthy mix of the rich and the ignorant. I'm surprised the forum isn't more right leaning.
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Mar 31, 2015 21:39
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Monkey Fracas posted:I sometimes wonder why this isn't proposed as a solution to the whole problem. Government shouldn't be administering any religious ceremony-type things anyways, so why not just remove all pretenses of it and call Legal Marriage what it actually is? Government was in the marriage business first, religion is the one that should gently caress off if they don't like it.
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Mar 31, 2015 21:40
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duz posted:Government was in the marriage business first, religion is the one that should gently caress off if they don't like it. Handfastings and other religious rites and ceremonies surrounding partnering up existed long before solid governments and constitutions, I think.
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Mar 31, 2015 21:42
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Grey Fox posted:People manage to find the stupidest ways to accidentally hurt themselves. If he is lying (hint: he's not), then it's probably because it's even more embarrassing than the story he went with. Like, maybe he lost his balance trying to wipe his rear end on the toilet and fell forward. Actually it's because he's in the mobs pocket and they sent some goons over to rough him, a six term Senator and sitting Minority Leader, up in his house and he's so afraid of them that he is pretending he walked into a door.
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Mar 31, 2015 21:42
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Amergin posted:But minorities sure will! Are claiming minorities have issues with being anti-gay or that they suddenly turn anti-gay when they grow up because those are two pretty different lines.
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Mar 31, 2015 21:45
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Karnegal posted:Are claiming minorities have issues with being anti-gay or that they suddenly turn anti-gay when they grow up because those are two pretty different lines. I'm claiming they have issues with homosexuals until they go to prison.
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Radbot posted:This is very true - flat forums that bounce topics up to the top of the page upon one reply from a random user provide a very different community experience than a reddit-like concept. I'd read a sociology paper about how infrastructure like that can dictate what the community looks like and talks about. Seems like SA's structure is less amenable to circlejerking/catchphrases in general.
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