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Necc0 posted:who's out there pushing mongo as a good db choice? why do newbies keep insisting on using it? same goes for node.js which you're also using iirc tutorials for all the new fancy webapp frameworks tell people to use it because you can just spin up mongodb insanely quick and squirt json into it like a filthy animal
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real frameworks are boring and easy. node and mongo are new adventures each and every day!
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b0lt posted:ℂ is isomorphic to ℝ^2 fixed with marvelous unicode
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someone a ways back said mongodb = multiplayer notepad and that's the most concise and accurate explanation I've ever heard
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Bhodi posted:someone a ways back said mongodb = multiplayer notepad and that's the most concise and accurate explanation I've ever heard 
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Symbolic Butt posted:fixed with marvelous unicode ℂ ≅ ℝ² i mean poo poo, might as well go the distance
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what are the opinions here on groovy
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its good for scripting inside a long running java process
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MALE SHOEGAZE posted:what are the opinions here on groovy i like it but i like plangs. basically groovy is a plang on the jvm that's cool for scripting java stuff
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MALE SHOEGAZE posted:what are the opinions here on groovy Awk : C :: Groovy : Java though Groovy being able to call java can lead good/terrible things
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MALE SHOEGAZE posted:what are the opinions here on groovy pointless because scala exists
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b0lt posted:pointless because scala exists c : c++ :: java : scala boo this man
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Brain Candy posted:c : c++ :: java : scala yes and c is strictly worse than a subset of c++
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I think you mean better than
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well we're reimplementing a (relatively) major system at my work as a service and we can really choose any unix friendly language we want but we all want static typing because everyone is sick of ruby so it's either like go or java. i guess i'm wondering if it would be better to just stick with java but our lead is pretty excited about groovy. it looks kinda ideal tbh but i've never used java before. i'm fine with java the language i'm just kind of apprehensive about taking on the entire java tool chain and maven/gradle and so forth
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MALE SHOEGAZE posted:well we're reimplementing a (relatively) major system at my work as a service and we can really choose any unix friendly language we want but we all want static typing because everyone is sick of ruby so it's either like go or java. you want java. go is deprecated. groovy is not a primary language to build ur stuff in tho. its fine for scripts that ur thing runs. alternatively, use c#
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don't use gradle. maven rules tho. god drat maven rules. I miss maven so much after spending time in c#
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like maven is so good you'll be like why doesn't everything have maven and you'll never be able to use things again.
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Shaggar posted:you want java. go is deprecated. groovy is not a primary language to build ur stuff in tho. its fine for scripts that ur thing runs. shaggar. is correct.
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Shaggar posted:like maven is so good you'll be like why doesn't everything have maven and you'll never be able to use things again. bobbilljim posted:shaggar. is correct.
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if you are picking a new lang, what about an f-lang? java is good and boring and comes with mittens to stop you from poking dangerous things until you get around to multi-threading and start waltzing on cliffs blindfolded
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are there any books are team treehouse videos specifically on content discovery. as in the feature every social media app has where you can find, say, tweets that the computer thinks you might like. i just need to make the dumbest proof of concept version of that and i'm wondering what other people are doing. MeruFM posted:this fits in the "it could be redundant" anti-philosophy of NoSQLOL database mongoDB. thank you i don't even know what subdocuments are, i will look it up
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Brain Candy posted:if you are picking a new lang, what about an f-lang? Fortran, Forth or F#? Java doesn't stop you from doing dangerous poo poo any more than any memory managed language tho??
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rrrrrrrrrrrt posted:Java doesn't stop you from doing dangerous poo poo any more than any memory managed language tho?? i think it is impossible for a language to, through syntax, structure human creativity in such a way as to prevent people from conceiving of and executing incredibly stupid poo poo in said language. this applies equally to all languages: spoken, computer, aetheric, sexual, universal, etc.
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rrrrrrrrrrrt posted:Fortran, Forth or F#? languages don't kill people, people with languages kill people
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i mean if you're having a conversation with yourself about "what language should I use for this" then you're already so far up your own rear end in a top hat building bikesheds that you should seriously reevaluate your life choices caveat: you're trying to implement some algorithm for shits and giggles that will serve no practical purpose that aside, your language should be driven by the realistic final goal of whatever you want your application to do. there's options inside of that choice (I'm making a web app, which of five bad options do I want to choose) but even those are pretty easy to select from based on whatever your resources are
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duTrieux. posted:i think it is impossible for a language to, through syntax, structure human creativity in such a way as to prevent people from conceiving of and executing incredibly stupid poo poo in said language. it's not about stopping the stupid, it's about limiting the damage guy steele was talking about adding operator overloading to java a jillion years ago and it never makes the cut despite coming up every five seconds because it never passed the "what is the worst a moronic user could do with it" test
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i was taking dangerous in the more memory management sense. if we're talking about crawling up your own rear end then yeah java only lets you go so far.
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rrrrrrrrrrrt posted:if we're talking about crawling up your own rear end then yeah java only lets you go so far. it does guarantee that when you get up your rear end you'll have a ton of boilerplate with you
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this is my boilerplate. there are many like it but this one is mine.
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Brain Candy posted:it's not about stopping the stupid, it's about limiting the damage the "good" use case for operator overloading is a numerics library the bad use cases are everything else. literally everything. "adding" strings makes no sense. only perl tried to make "multiplying" strings work. you don't have to be stupid for operator overloading to be bad. it's bad for everyone, equally
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rrrrrrrrrrrt posted:Java doesn't stop you from doing dangerous poo poo any more than any memory managed language tho?? java is statically typed, so the compiler has more opportunities to point out your dumbassery it won't stop you, but at least it makes it less likely that you will accidentally do something dangerous
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Brain Candy posted:if you are picking a new lang, what about an f-lang? we are coming from ruby and our thoughts are very much something like 'hey wouldn't it be nice if it were difficult to do dumb things with our code'
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b0lt posted:pointless because scala exists scala is bad, op
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you'll also want to use subversion instead of git or any other dvcs
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yeah don't use scala.
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