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THF13 posted:I think the missing piece of the RealShield puzzle is what was on the ship that Fury thought was worth sacrificing Bobbi's life for. Best guesses are a superpowered villain or some nightmare weapon that should have been launched into the sun. It is going to be the Koenig assembly line and/or cloning vats Ultron prototypes?
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I love so much that all of Mary Sue Poots' powers revolve around gratuitous slow motion edit: CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:I love that there is a ridiculous slow mo shot every single time Skye uses her powers. let's get gay married ok Soothing Vapors fucked around with this message at 06:11 on Apr 1, 2015 |
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Soothing Vapors posted:I love so much that all of Mary Sue Poots' powers revolve around gratuitous slow motion I wonder if when discussing Agents of SHIELD from conception, they highlighted the fact that 'one of our main characters will have superpowers but it's okay because we can just use slow motion and shake the camera a bit, it'll save a bundle'
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They also blew up a tree!
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She also staked the dude with tree bits and made that swirly thing with water.
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twistedmentat posted:SONIC BOOM! I lack the skills or program to do this but someone needs to put Guile's theme onto that scene. I hope we eventually get to see Skye cut loose on some really powerful supervillain. Or go all super effective! on Venom.
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Codependent Poster posted:Bobbi looks good in that. Hot drat! She's about 3 leagues above Black Widow. I'd take a Charlies Angles style movie with Black Widow, Mockingbird and Agent May with Sam Jackson as Bosley and Adama as Charlie. I'm just watching it now, Adama's speech about the cube is officially the start of Civil War i'm guessing. Rocksicles fucked around with this message at 07:34 on Apr 1, 2015 |
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Apr 1, 2015 07:26
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Can somebody explain to me why Real SHIELD is bad? I mean, Gonzalez makes a pretty good case that Fury sucked and was responsible for Insight. And Coulson's behavior was erratic, and he made some serious mistakes. And is Coulson really qualified to be head of SHIELD? Really, guys? He seems uncomfortable in the role. While a lot of you are loving this plot, I see nothing good coming from it. Coulson and his team needed to get called to the carpet for all their fuckups, and Nick Fury especially needed to be refuted, but instead the show seems to be setting up a strawman designed to make Coulson's SHIELD look wonderful in comparison. It isn't there yet, but the groundwork has been laid. HECKUVA JOB, CHARLIE. Following this, Bobbi may flip based on that guy's willingness to kill Skye (which was, in retrospect, a totally rational, if cold-blooded call). And of course Fitz will use his relationship with Mac to turn him, and Gonzalez will be revealed as HYDRA, and I will ragequit this show. Which is sad, because I'm, weirdly, liking anything related to Skye's plotline, excited to see Raina again, and also of course loving Muad'Dad. I guess EJO would be a pretty great villain for the back half of the season, but this path seems to go further to validate Coulson and Fury.
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Pan Dulce posted:She also staked the dude with tree bits and made that swirly thing with water. You should watch this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uENITui5_jU
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Dat loving episode  I can't believe how much these characters have grown on me since their introductions. Everyone talks about how much the originals have improved from those early episodes but Hunter as well. The first few episodes of this season he felt like a weird obstruction because someone had mandated the show needed a snarky British guy but all of a sudden he's showing up in Tahiti, pledging Coulson his loyalty and I'm like 'awwww yay Hunter'. This show is on such a goddam role now, this and the Flash in one night makes for one of the best TV show combos.
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Apr 1, 2015 09:39
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Did NOBODY notice how EJO's lines could've been taken directly from BSG? I'M STILL COMMANDER OF THIS SHIP.
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Apr 1, 2015 09:41
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This show has gotten so good. I actually put off watching Justified to watch SHIELD tonight and I was not let down. I'm really hoping they don't go overboard with Adama turning out to be a bad dude. Obviously we're meant to side with Coulson (because he's the freaking man), but we already did super evil with Bill Paxton last year and Whitehall earlier this year. It would be a bold move to have the enemy be essentially good but in a fundamentally different way than our guys. I'm also hoping the same with regard to Gordon. Still haven't gone through Agent Carter. How did it turn out?
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Agent Carter got really good early on and stayed that good until the end. It's worth watching, considering how short it is and how good it was.
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kammat[They went to Tahiti [/quote posted:Of course they did. It's a magical place. Otherwise it would all be a blur and we wouldn't know what was happening, and a week's worth of SPX would be on-screen for milliseconds. Apoplexy posted:Did NOBODY notice how EJO's lines could've been taken directly from BSG? I'M STILL COMMANDER OF THIS SHIP. Yes that was great. But I still can't figure out: Is The Real SHIELD really the real SHIELD?
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Spatula City posted:Can somebody explain to me why Real SHIELD is bad? They're not which is what makes them interesting. I have a feeling the way this whole thing is going to pan out revolves around the carrier cargo (whatever it is) slipping into someone else's hands with Coulson's team being the ones to recover it (possibly with an alliance with Gonzales.) Note that (next ep trailer) we didn't really see the carrier in the preview. Just Coulson taking back HIS base. Gonzales' team are probably still going to be running after next week.
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I think they're really not SHIELD, since Fury didn't give them the orders to go and form a cabal to reform the organization. Not that they see it that way, or that it matters much. Coulson is the appointed director, he has the cube of stuff in it, he's the real guy in charge.
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Mokinokaro posted:They're not which is what makes them interesting. I hope they keep that up. I'm really digging this civil war purely because, like you say, everyone's the "good guy." You can see the fact that eventually one of them is going to do something that takes the kid's gloves off written on the wall of inevitability, but that just adds tension to it. Also I'm digging Skye's powers. I was thinking Earthquake stuff was kind of lame, but I like where they're going with them. I don't know anything about the comic character. Rarity posted:Dat loving episode How are the odds of Season 3 looking? God I hope the ratings have gone up. It's such a hard sell to win people back after the first half of season 1.
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What? No, you are not a "good guy" if you're literally going to hunt down and murder an innocent woman because she has superpowers. Olmos' SHIELD, at this point, is ridiculous. Their one single plausible point is that the alien DNA could make Coulson erratic, and yet even then they can't legitimately verbalize how Coulson is actually being erratic at all. Olmos (I will remember the character's name at some point) accuses Coulson of handling the alien temple mission badly, despite the mission actually being relatively successful, and in the same breath admits that he himself would've made big mistakes during the Hydra takeover. He then goes on about how they have to find all the enhanced people Fury is hiding which...how exactly does that have anything to do with SHIELD leadership protocols? It's like the biggest non-sequitur ever, and yet it somehow forms the crux of his crusade?
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BrianWilly posted:What? No, you are not a "good guy" if you're literally going to hunt down and murder an innocent woman because she has superpowers. Not once did the word murder come up. I mean granted, that might be the big plan beneath it all, but all I heard was "use Icers, don't kill anyone" the entire drat episode from both sides.
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Did you miss that they were using real bullets against Skye at the end, despite Bobbi telling them not to?
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No, only the dickhead of the heads of SHIELD was using real ammo against Skye. He also got impaled by a chunk of tree, so he doesn't matter any more narratively.
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No, the footsoldiers were using real guns too. Icers don't make ringing gunshots that can be heard across the forest, which is how Bobbi and whatshisname knew where Skye was.
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Apoplexy posted:No, only the dickhead of the heads of SHIELD was using real ammo against Skye. He also got impaled by a chunk of tree, so he doesn't matter any more narratively. The agent who found Skye also had real ammo.
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BrianWilly posted:What? No, you are not a "good guy" if you're literally going to hunt down and murder an innocent woman because she has superpowers. I guess this is what happens to people with powers that can't wear gloves on their hands to cover up their sharp finger nails 
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Blazing Ownager posted:Not once did the word murder come up. I mean granted, that might be the big plan beneath it all, but all I heard was "use Icers, don't kill anyone" the entire drat episode from both sides. Apoplexy posted:No, only the dickhead of the heads of SHIELD was using real ammo against Skye. He also got impaled by a chunk of tree, so he doesn't matter any more narratively. Bobbi says to use icers only, but it's pretty clear that no one listened to her. The foot soldier who initially approached Skye had a real gun and was basically sneaking up on her to shoot her in the back. The gun goes off, and they all go off to follow the sound of the literal bullet leaving the gun. Then lieutenant rear end in a top hat shows up and tries to shoot Skye with his gun. Real Shield is clearly happy to use less than lethal force against its misguided buddies, but if their solution to apprehending a Shield agent with powers is to go in guns blazing, I have to imagine their only plan would be to kill any people they found with powers, particularly those linked to Inhumans since they know a bit about those wacky alien goings-on. Best case they're going at it like police coming up on a guy with a gun: If you immediately drop the weapon or slowly lower it to the ground or follow their instructions 100% to the letter, you'll probably be cuffed and taken into custody. If you do literally anything else everyone in sight will try to pump a full magazine into you. It's a bit harder to do that though when your body is the weapon and no one is ordering you to get on the ground and put your hands behind your head. I do appreciate the irony of Real Shield being the bad guys in part because they're using real guns though, after myself and many others ranting against Coulson's team for using icers when they should be straight up murdering Hydra goons. But yeah, good episode overall. All I want out of the next episode is Skyedad meeting Daisy with the biggest "Told you so"  look on his face.
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Apoplexy posted:No, only the dickhead of the heads of SHIELD was using real ammo against Skye. He also got impaled by a chunk of tree, so he doesn't matter any more narratively. Kirk Acevedo is a really good actor and seems to specialize in dying in new and crazy ways. Back on Fringe he was stung by a MOW that deposited eggs or larva (which in the alternate world became worms).
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He got a crossbolt in the chest in Walking Dead after his tank blew up in the best way possible! Someone get that gif of Daryl whipping a 'nade down the tank's main cannon barrel, please.
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NowonSA posted:But yeah, good episode overall. All I want out of the next episode is Skyedad meeting Daisy with the biggest "Told you so" And on the note of him, is it just me or is he way more ambiguously evil because of his love of his daughter? Between him, Gordon the Inhuman, and Real SHIELD headed up by EJO, this half a season has some pretty good antagonists. I like them a fair amount more than Hydra dicks and Whitehall (who loving owned, Reed Diamond can do no wrong).
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Binary Logic posted:Kirk Acevedo is a really good actor and seems to specialize in dying in new and crazy ways. Back on Fringe he was stung by a MOW that deposited eggs or larva (which in the alternate world became worms). Though he actually died from a shape shifter stealing his identity.
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Spatula City posted:Can somebody explain to me why Real SHIELD is bad? While Adama's SHIELD has some points about Fury's handling of SHIELD, they are going about things in a really poo poo way. HYDRA takes out SHIELD. Fury hands over SHIELD to Coulson, he scrapes together what he can and continues the work and gathering together all of the remaining SHEILD agents with scraps of the organisation and equipment. Coulson's SHIELD also thwarts a major HYDRA plot that could have resulted in the destruction of everything as well as taking out the high level HYDRA commanders and coming to an understanding with the military commander tasked with shutting the whole thing down. Adama in the mean time gathers a whole bunch of other SHIELD agents and resources (including a loving aircraft carrier and a bunch of quin jets), hides them away from the military and Coulson, infiltrates Coulson's SHIELD with the purpose of shutting them down, doing nothing against HYDRA with all his tech and resources. Adama SHIELD right now is bad because they are hypocritical and ineffective at what SHIELD is meant to be all about. There is no reasonable explanation for him not hooking up with Coulson in the aftermath of HYDRA rising other than "we shoudl be running things our way, not Fury's way". Now things may turn out to put everything in a better light later on (like what was the dangerous cargo that they were going to sink the ship over, maybe they have been up to other stuff in the mean time etc) but right now, they are the rear end in a top hat splinter group loving up the real SHIELD with the goal of "KILL ALL THE NON NORMALS  "
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"We should not be running things Fury's way" is a pretty good argument by itself.
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Mr Beens posted:Now things may turn out to put everything in a better light later on (like what was the dangerous cargo that they were going to sink the ship over, maybe they have been up to other stuff in the mean time etc) but right now, they are the rear end in a top hat splinter group loving up the real SHIELD with the goal of "KILL ALL THE NON NORMALS 1. I don't think Fury had the authority or the right to make Coulsen director of SHIELD. If Adama's SHIELD was created using procedures put in place by the original SHIELD, then it has a stronger claim to legitimacy than Coulsen's SHIELD. 2. The non-normals are dangerous and pose a threat to everyone on Earth. Killing them isn't the easy choice and its certainly not the humane choice, but if its the only way to contain them and protect the general public, then its the RIGHT choice. 3. Coulsen sucks.
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I'd be interested to know what Real SHIELD has been doing with all of their resources. Have they been cruising around avoiding Talbot and everything else and just decided to pop in and spy on Coulson? How did they find out about Coulson's team? How did they find out that Coulson had alien blood in him? Why is Coulson untrustworthy because he has alien blood yet Mack who was possessed by aliens gets a pass? Why is it better for Real Shield to collect and hide technology than where it is currently hidden that only two people can find out about? I don't see a lot of difference here with how much secrecy Gonzales is going about things and how Fury went about it other than it's more 'democratized'. I mean, quick test to see if Real Shield is hypocritical or not: are they working in hand with governments around the world to protect them, or are they still hiding out collecting things? Doctor Butts fucked around with this message at 14:07 on Apr 1, 2015 |
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Dan Didio posted:"We should not be running things Fury's way" is a pretty good argument by itself. Except they're loving it up really badly. They hate secrets, so they stay secret and play spy games for months instead of doing anything positive. They champion democracy, so they force Coulson's Shield into submission against their will without any negotiation under their leadership of former high-ranking Shield officials. They claim Coulson's a lovely leader, but their own leadership is awful and thus far vastly inferior to his. And they hate Fury keeping dangerous poo poo lying around so they want to what? Destroy everything dangerous? Including people? Coulson's toned-down version of Fury's methods have so far been wildly successful. He's achieved a lot with little resources. These guys want to replace him with something that seems pretty bad and ineffective (hating secrets in a covert intelligence agency, what they christ????). Nephthys fucked around with this message at 14:27 on Apr 1, 2015 |
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Dan Didio posted:"We should not be running things Fury's way" is a pretty good argument by itself. It isn't really an argument, though. They haven't presented a better alternative beyond some vague "decisions by committee". It's like political parties saying the other party plan sucks but then crickets chirp when you ask what their better plan is. At least Fury seemed to use his resources to actually do stuff, these guys are more concerned with beating other good guys in a power struggle. Nephthys posted:And they hate Fury keeping dangerous poo poo lying around so they want to what? Destroy everything dangerous? Including people? Although Fury tells her to blow up a ship because it has dangerous poo poo lying around and they pointedly don't destroy it. Sort of amusing. Electromax fucked around with this message at 14:28 on Apr 1, 2015 |
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How many episodes until Ultron, and how many after? Presumably, Fury will sort this "Real SHIELD" business out, right?
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Well Coulson really isn't. He runs a stark middle ground between Fury's way and EJO's way.
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Apoplexy posted:No, only the dickhead of the heads of SHIELD was using real ammo against Skye. He also got impaled by a chunk of tree, so he doesn't matter any more narratively. All I could think of was "oh man, Joe Toye getting taken out again like in Bastogne"
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