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What if Daredevil is actually terrible and this is all an extremely elaborate April Fools Day joke?
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Apr 1, 2015 20:33
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All the good reviews could turn out to be April Fools pranks.
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Apr 1, 2015 20:39
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I'm just getting caught up on the last few episodes of SHIELD but I have to say that Adama running another, independent "new" SHEILD splinter group is dumb and hilarious and awesome all at once. Also, sheer amount of metas or supers or whatever they call them sort of feels like it undermines the movies a little bit
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Apr 1, 2015 21:38
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I think they've settled on 'enhanced' as code for 'has powers but is not an Inhuman'.
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Apr 1, 2015 21:44
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Did they ever refer to that lady with finger knives as an enhanced? If so their criteria may be a little... ...dicey.
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Apr 1, 2015 21:49
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Yeeeeeeeeaaaaaaahhhh
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Apr 1, 2015 22:00
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Well, on the one end of the scale you've got Mrs Knife-fingers. On the other you have the Avengers. The universe has it's checks and balances.
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Apr 1, 2015 22:09
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Holy poo poo, Olmos is literally(literally) just playing Adama again. This is spectacular.
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Apr 2, 2015 05:03
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omg chael crash posted:I'm just getting caught up on the last few episodes of SHIELD but I have to say that Adama running another, independent "new" SHEILD splinter group is dumb and hilarious and awesome all at once. It's a good buildup to Civil War though.
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Apr 2, 2015 08:01
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They would never setup the movies on TV!
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Apr 2, 2015 13:01
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Barry Convex hacked your account??
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Apr 2, 2015 13:05
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I want to this slap fight to keep going, make it seem like Fury is just kind of ignoring it in Ultron.
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Apr 2, 2015 13:50
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I stand by everything I said about SHIELD's narrative relevance to the films, or rather lack thereof. Feel free to think what you want of that.
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Apr 2, 2015 17:33
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Given the last few episodes, I am starting to think Barry Convex is more right than wrong. Like I said before though, we will know for sure come Avengers 2 (or if the show wraps up this story arc in a way that it automagically never needs mention in any movie in the near future.) The fact that Fury is in the trailers for the movie means either the show will be outright buried by the film (as in, Fury basically disavowing any knowledge of SHIELD continuing past the events of WS) or the show will at least be acknowledged in some way (and how much remains to be seen.)
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Apr 2, 2015 18:04
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Barry Convex's thing was actually about Inhumans.
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Apr 2, 2015 18:11
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Aphrodite posted:Barry Convex's thing was actually about Inhumans. That was one of his points, but he has always maintained that the show generally will have no effect on the movies. He doubled down on Inhumans though, almost to comedic effect.
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Apr 2, 2015 18:16
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ToastyPotato posted:That was one of his points, but he has always maintained that the show generally will have no effect on the movies. He doubled down on Inhumans though, almost to comedic effect. They wont make the show required viewing for the movies, I think that much was always clear.
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Apr 2, 2015 18:21
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Yeah, and I doubt the SHIELD team will show up in the big final battle in Infinity War or any of the other films.
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Apr 2, 2015 18:33
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Dacap posted:Yeah, and I doubt the SHIELD team will show up in the big final battle in Infinity War or any of the other films. I dunno, I wouldn't be surprised to see Coulson at least in "Civil War". Phil's had a movie presence before the show, so it would make sense for them to bring him back for that kind of story. That said, I think it'd be fun if they had some kind of super-spy reunion mission and have May, Bobbie, Clint, and Natasha all working the same job. Maybe even have Clint and Bobbi really hit it off....
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Apr 2, 2015 18:37
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I don't think making the show required viewing is the only option for it being a proper part of the MCU. Most of the movies are barely required viewing for any other film that isn't a direct sequel. It's about acknowledgement, in the narrative sense. The show doesn't use massive amounts of cameos and cut a ways to the films, but it acknowledges them as part of their universe. The movies, at least the ones that SHOULD relate to SHIELD in some way, could do the same without needing cameos from the show in there. Right now we have a movie coming up that is post Winter Soldier and post fall of SHIELD. Natasha leaked all the SHIELD secrets to the public, most people think Fury is dead, but we know from the trailers he will show up and reveal that to be a lie, along with Maria Hill working for Stark (and she knows that his buddy Coulson is alive too.) If after all of these things falling into position the topic of Coulson does not come up and the topic of SHIELD, which has continued on TWO fronts even though Fury told Cap that it basically wouldn't, doesn't come up, then Convex is probably right, and the movies don't really want poo poo to do with the show. At that point they would be actively going out of their way to avoid touching the show. And again, to clarify, because people keep trying to make this a point, you don't need the cast of AoS to pop up in any of this to address AoS within the MCU within the narrative itself. Fury and Hill are fully capable of filling that role. Best case, you get Coulson.
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Apr 2, 2015 18:46
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ToastyPotato posted:Right now ... most people think Fury is dead, but we know from the trailers he will show up and reveal that to be a lie, Do you think Coulson, or anybody on Team Bus, told Bobbi that Fury is still alive?
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Apr 2, 2015 19:06
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howe_sam posted:Do you think Coulson, or anybody on Team Bus, told Bobbi that Fury is still alive? Did they get lanyards?
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Apr 2, 2015 19:08
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howe_sam posted:Do you think Coulson, or anybody on Team Bus, told Bobbi that Fury is still alive? I have no idea what the people within SHIELD know because I honestly haven't kept track. We know from the last episode that Team BattleSHIELD weren't in on the ruse during the fall of SHIELD. Team Bus should know because Fury helped them. He rescued FitzSimmons on his helicopter and he aided the team on the raid against CyberTek. Whether Coulson and Co. filled in the rest, I don't know. Also my comment was mostly assuming that Banner and Stark might not know, but thinking about it, if Sif knows, then wouldn't Thor, and if Natasha and Rogers know, then wouldn't Stark and Banner and Clint find out? I dunno. It just seems like a really dumb thing to resolve off screen though, considering that his death was a catalyst for them working together in the first place. That's why I am hoping this is brought up in the movie, because it is kind of an important plot point, especially in an Avenger's sequel... unless the show doesn't actually matter.
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Apr 2, 2015 20:57
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Coulson specifically asked Sif not to tell Thor, and so she probably didn't. I mean, she's got better things to do with her time. I dunno about Age of Ultron, but it would be a waste for Skye to not appear in Civil War, at least.
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Apr 2, 2015 21:04
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BrianWilly posted:Coulson specifically asked Sif not to tell Thor, and so she probably didn't. Yeah I couldn't remember if that was a thing or not. I guess Heimdall opted to just keep quiet this whole time for no reason too. At this point, so many people tied directly to the Avengers know (or may know, since we don't know if the TAHITI project was in the SHIELD files Natasha dumped) that it would be reaaaaally strange for that plot thread to go unresolved in the next film. As for Skye, I can see her never having to show up in Civil War. I mean, it probably wouldn't make too much sense but I can see them fudging a way for her to not have to be involved despite being a powered member of SHIELD.
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Apr 2, 2015 21:28
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I don't think it's at all a stretch to say that nothing that ever happens on AoS will have any relevance on the films. Yeah, Coulson could show up again, but even that I wouldn't take as a given since his role in the film universe is kinda over. The show's position in the greater MCU scheme is to serve as a marketing tool, it will always be second rate. I think it's a good show, but it's just not realistic to expect it to have any influence at all.ToastyPotato posted:At this point, so many people tied directly to the Avengers know (or may know, since we don't know if the TAHITI project was in the SHIELD files Natasha dumped) that it would be reaaaaally strange for that plot thread to go unresolved in the next film. Not really. They are going to be way too busy with Ultron to give a poo poo about Coulson. Outside of Nick Fury showing up I don't think there's any reason to believe SHIELD will even be mentioned in the film.
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Apr 3, 2015 00:30
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BrianWilly posted:Coulson specifically asked Sif not to tell Thor, and so she probably didn't. I mean, she's got better things to do with her time. Thor is living on Earth after Thor 2, anyway.
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Apr 3, 2015 00:48
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BrianWilly posted:Coulson specifically asked Sif not to tell Thor, and so she probably didn't. I mean, she's got better things to do with her time. "Don't mess up the movie continuity, Sif!"
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Apr 3, 2015 00:53
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Hakkesshu posted:I don't think it's at all a stretch to say that nothing that ever happens on AoS will have any relevance on the films. Yeah, Coulson could show up again, but even that I wouldn't take as a given since his role in the film universe is kinda over. The show's position in the greater MCU scheme is to serve as a marketing tool, it will always be second rate. I think it's a good show, but it's just not realistic to expect it to have any influence at all. If SHIELD ever comes back in the movies (and it presumably will in Civil War) they will have to acknowledge the show. Unless they somehow reset SHIELD to exactly its post-Cap 2 status before the movie comes out.
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Apr 3, 2015 00:59
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Hakkesshu posted:I don't think it's at all a stretch to say that nothing that ever happens on AoS will have any relevance on the films. Yeah, Coulson could show up again, but even that I wouldn't take as a given since his role in the film universe is kinda over. The show's position in the greater MCU scheme is to serve as a marketing tool, it will always be second rate. I think it's a good show, but it's just not realistic to expect it to have any influence at all. Given that the next couple of films seem to deal a lot with accountability and trust and secrets (something that started with Winter Soldier), it would be pretty bad story telling to ignore something as big as Fury's "resurrect an Avenger via alien tech" secret program. Especially when the only successful subject was someone who had ties to the team. That would just be lovely story telling, and if they didn't want to deal with it then they probably shouldn't have made a whole show based around it, imo. Instead of being part of a greater story, it makes the show come off like some lowly fan fiction.
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Apr 3, 2015 01:45
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I'd be shocked if they didn't just play it off as a gag. "So you faked your death?" "Nope. Really died." "But how are you..." "Classified. But nice to see you, Cap. You don't know what happened to my trading cards, do you?"
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Apr 3, 2015 03:50
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I'd be surprised if Coulson ever appears in the films again as long as SHIELD is on the air. The shooting schedule on a 22 episode a season tv show is really loving demanding, it's one of the reasons tv stars almost never star in more than one movie a year, and usually something low key built around their schedule. Clark Gregg might have time for a quick cameo is the shooting schedules line up, but since the Marvel films run a pretty tight ship, it's doubtful they'd do much to make it easier for him, and they probably wouldn't write him into the script if they weren't sure he'd be able to appear at all.
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Apr 3, 2015 04:46
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iI2JWIN1zMQ This show is gonna be good.
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Apr 4, 2015 00:33
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"Do you believe in the devil, Father?" Fffffuck, why isn't it next Friday right now!?!
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Apr 4, 2015 01:25
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lomzus posted:Laura Prudom @LauInLA The action set pieces in DeKnight's Spartacus were pretty amazing too. That standard is pretty high to match, so I'm expecting to be blown away with Daredevil.
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Apr 4, 2015 02:50
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Gaz-L posted:"Do you believe in the devil, Father?" I'm really worried I'm gonna watch the whole thing in a row. Is it 10 or 13?
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Apr 4, 2015 06:00
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zoux posted:I'm really worried I'm gonna watch the whole thing in a row. Is it 10 or 13? I work the weekend, so it's going to be a two day affair for me.
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Apr 4, 2015 08:19
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All the trailers make it look like a duller S1 of Arrow, even with a villain wanting to make the city "reborn from the ashes" (which is sooo not Kingpin, but whatever, let them roll). Arrow turned out to be entertaining because it embraced the superhero comic book plotting and ridiculousness; if Daredevil really delivers on violence and fights it could be cool in a different way, but TV directing is a huge roadblock to that.
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Apr 4, 2015 11:02
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fatherboxx posted:All the trailers make it look like a duller S1 of Arrow, even with a villain wanting to make the city "reborn from the ashes" (which is sooo not Kingpin, but whatever, let them roll). Arrow S1 was insired by Batman Begins, which was inspired by Batman Year One, which was Frank Miller bringing his Daredevil sensibilities to Batman. BravestOfTheLamps fucked around with this message at 11:13 on Apr 4, 2015 |
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Apr 4, 2015 11:06
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This looks like a real show instead of like a CW show, so it has that going for it.
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Apr 4, 2015 11:34
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