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PleasureKevin posted:just put it in the
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BLT Clobbers posted:ive to import a customers mongdob data into a sql db once a month. what's the best way of doing this without killing myself. would killing myself be preferable. what is the recommended way of killing oneself. ssis
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Luigi is extremely sick
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BLT Clobbers posted:ive to import a customers mongdob data into a sql db once a month. what's the best way of doing this without killing myself. would killing myself be preferable. what is the recommended way of killing oneself. Process the data with spark and import it with kafka
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PleasureKevin posted:mongodb is actually good this doesn't give me any pleasure kevin. no pleasure at all.
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i don't really have any rhetoric to defend mongodb, I didn't think I'd. we'd any it just works you guys sound like IYG meets CoC
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Apr 2, 2015 03:24
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it just works, until you want your data back
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mongodb: the world's first write-only medium
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someone post that article where a nosql retard learns all about the incredible benefits of relational databases
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:mongodb: the world's first write-only medium 
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PleasureKevin posted:i don't really have any rhetoric to defend mongodb, I didn't think I'd. we'd any it doesn't just work tho. that's the point. taking absolutely no effort to set up or thought to use isn't equivalent to just working.
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PleasureKevin posted:it just works yeah it ~suits your needs~ chances are it eventually wont have fun dude, hope it works out
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its like havin sex with a chinese finger trap. feels great right up until you wanna get out.
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mongodb is perfect if your data is worthless eg it's going to be the storage backend in titan
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Shinku ABOOKEN posted:i am actually a good programmer APRIL FOOLS!!!!!!
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it only works if someone believed it
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introducing placeboDB
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:it just works, until you want your data back i was going to empty quote this and add extra stuff but yeah it's pretty much "until you want your data back"
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i've only seen mongo be used where a relational database would've been a better choice, i think it having "db" in the name makes it misleading when what you want is some kind of caching or some kind of serialized key-object storage that you don't mind losing due to gamma waves and definitely do not want replicated effectively http://docs.mongodb.org/ecosystem/use-cases/ none of these seem like a particularly good idea for mongo
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Apr 2, 2015 17:02
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how is mongo so bad and why do people keep using it
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i wish i had a nice intellectual argument for mongo being bad but i don't beyond the operational aspects of it being garbage this is the negative of just using an orm and not giving a poo poo about db structure
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Forums Terrorist posted:how is mongo so bad and why do people keep using it its easy to use
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alternately https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2F-DItXtZs
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knew what this was going to be before clicking
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Share Bear posted:i've only seen mongo be used where a relational database would've been a better choice, i think it having "db" in the name makes it misleading when what you want is some kind of caching or some kind of serialized key-object storage that you don't mind losing due to gamma waves and definitely do not want replicated effectively you start out with something that's just key/document storage, then later you realize you have additional relational requirements. mongodb seemed fine, up until it wasn't. if you start with postgres hstore as your k/v datastore, adding relational data later is a cakewalk.
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Forums Terrorist posted:how is mongo so bad and why do people keep using it software developers play with it on their desktops and like it (as long as they remain completely ignorant of changing requirements, operational concerns, or scaling problems)
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mongo seems to work pretty well for the Parse team, though they may have a specialized persistence layer deployed (I know they're working on one, not sure how far along it is)
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you get an exception because you're operating at a scale most people won't ever see in passing, much less work on, and full of some super-smart people who understand the advantages and more importantly the limitations of a product
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sure, but my point is that mongo isn't irredeemable, as is the thesis in this thread. "mongo is good for X, watch out for Y" versus "it is the dev of null".
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http://webscalesql.org/ aka the coalition of poor sods who are stuck using mysql for serious applications
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Subjunctive posted:sure, but my point is that mongo isn't irredeemable, as is the thesis in this thread. "mongo is good for X, watch out for Y" versus "it is the dev of null". i mentioned that document databases have use cases, but ime mongo was pretty crashy. sometimes it would spontaneously shut down without logging an error. granted, i haven't used it in a couple years
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Subjunctive posted:sure, but my point is that mongo isn't irredeemable, as is the thesis in this thread. "mongo is good for X, watch out for Y" versus "it is the dev of null". mongo enables people to make big mistakes (such as choosing mongo) much faster which is a plus i guess????
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DaTroof posted:i mentioned that document databases have use cases, but ime mongo was pretty crashy. sometimes it would spontaneously shut down without logging an error. granted, i haven't used it in a couple years I'm sure nothing has changed in a couple of years. I don't like mongo either, but the reasoning in the thread seems pretty shallow
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Subjunctive posted:I'm sure nothing has changed in a couple of years. reliability, data integrity, acid compliance, normalization not all applications require the last couple, but too often people who assume they don't need them are wrong see: bitcoin exchanges
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also the idea that it makes development faster is a complete myth (just like using orms).
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dear diary: today I got to use the ^?! operator in my befunge interpreter http://lpaste.net/130048 (any haskellers want to critique?) haskell is piss poo poo garbage language etc etc etc
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Subjunctive posted:I'm sure nothing has changed in a couple of years. please find out the reasoning from the team that shipped a good working product that never requires reports be generated solely from that data, especially resulting in an single day's long aggregation and incorrect data due to writes failing during the aggregation and there is no recourse that fits within the current project budget
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you company runs on its reporting and your reporting runs on your data. do not let your application decide how the data works. ever.
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