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Howard Phillips
May 4, 2008

His smile; it shines in the darkest of depths. There is hope yet.
Can you contact VA prior to getting out to determine exact Post 9/11 GI Bill eligibility? This would help me a lot in planning so I'm not wasting a year waiting to "school up" after separation.

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DustyNuts
Jun 1, 2000

Have you seen me?

Yes. That's a part of the process. Request your letter of eligibility online through eBenefits (specifically VONAPP, I think).

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.

Howard Phillips posted:

Can you contact VA prior to getting out to determine exact Post 9/11 GI Bill eligibility? This would help me a lot in planning so I'm not wasting a year waiting to "school up" after separation.

Are you an officer or enlisted? Have you served more than 36 months active service since 9/11/2001? If you're an O and they paid for your school, your 36 month counter doesn't begin until after your obligation is up (4-5 years typically).

If you're enlisted and have been longer than 3 years, you've got 100% so long as you get honorably discharged. Like dustynuts said, you can request your eligibility letter through ebenefits.

Analogical
May 20, 2013

EEOD? Why not, I could use a break from work

:911:
Anyone in Norfolk? Might get sent to "fleet familiarization" out there, where I learn how to polish knobs for two weeks.

Sir Lucius
Aug 3, 2003
In our community we call that sailors to sea. I'm guessing it's 2 weeks of cranking and standing watches. Though I'm not sure you'd have enough time to get qualified for watches. One of my Navy career goals is to never become OOD qualified.

A Bad King
Jul 17, 2009


Suppose the oil man,
He comes to town.
And you don't lay money down.

Yet Mr. King,
He killed the thread
The other day.
Well I wonder.
Who's gonna go to Hell?

vulturesrow posted:

SBP is almost as good a deal as CSB/REDUX ahahahahahahahaahah

Hey, it would be a better deal if it were, say...2%, or 6%, much like medicare or SS. Even then, 55% of 50% base pay isn't even enough to justify hiring that boogeyman your spouse'll have to grab to end your life prematurely.

Howard Phillips
May 4, 2008

His smile; it shines in the darkest of depths. There is hope yet.

Mr. Nice! posted:

Are you an officer or enlisted? Have you served more than 36 months active service since 9/11/2001? If you're an O and they paid for your school, your 36 month counter doesn't begin until after your obligation is up (4-5 years typically).

If you're enlisted and have been longer than 3 years, you've got 100% so long as you get honorably discharged. Like dustynuts said, you can request your eligibility letter through ebenefits.

Well I'm an officer but also prior E. My DD214 has 2 years and 11 months of service, then I got commissioned through USNA. I also paid the 1200 for Montgomery GI Bill when I was enlisted. I know the va.gov says that prior Es are eligible for Post 9/11.

However, am I fully eligible cause I paid in full for Montgomery GI Bill or am I going to have to stay in 1 month past obligation to reach 100% benefits?

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.
Ignore the montgomery GI bill.


I'm not sure that 35 months enlisted will be enough for the post 9/11 at 100%, but I can't say for sure. USNA, iirc, has a 5 year obligation. The best I could figure is you'll need 5 years 1 month as an officer to get the full amount, but I am by no means certain of this.

If you don't already have an ebenefits account, go make one https://www.ebenefits.va.gov/ebenefits/homepage



EDIT: I say ignore the MGIB because it's nowhere near as useful as the post 9/11. You'll get your $1200 back after you've exhausted all your post 9/11 benefits.

Mr. Nice! fucked around with this message at 17:22 on Apr 1, 2015

TsarAleksi
Nov 24, 2004

What?

Sir Lucius posted:

In our community we call that sailors to sea. I'm guessing it's 2 weeks of cranking and standing watches. Though I'm not sure you'd have enough time to get qualified for watches. One of my Navy career goals is to never become OOD qualified.

Is getting qualified OOD something you're worried you might get forced to do? That only happens to dirtbag SWOs

Nostalgia4Dogges
Jun 18, 2004

Only emojis can express my pure, simple stupidity.

Happy birthday to all current and future Navy Chiefs! Hoo-yah!

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

TsarAleksi posted:

Is getting qualified OOD something you're worried you might get forced to do? That only happens to dirtbag SWOs

Some ships try to make the dissociative state sea tour flyboys qual.

e: spelling

Stultus Maximus fucked around with this message at 22:21 on Apr 1, 2015

TsarAleksi
Nov 24, 2004

What?

Stultus Maximus posted:

Some ships try to make the dissociative state sea store flyboys qual.

That's true, which helps explain why the CVN seems to always be trying to run over it's escorts. But I don't think its a big risk for a CTN...

Sir Lucius
Aug 3, 2003

TsarAleksi posted:

Is getting qualified OOD something you're worried you might get forced to do? That only happens to dirtbag SWOs

OOD in my navy lifetime has been sitting at a desk and answering phones.

vulturesrow
Sep 25, 2011

Always gotta pay it forward.

TsarAleksi posted:

That's true, which helps explain why the CVN seems to always be trying to run over it's escorts. But I don't think its a big risk for a CTN...

Doubtful. Making decisions at 20 knots isn't that hard when you're used to doing it at 420 knots. :dukedog:

Pandasmores
May 8, 2009

Sir Lucius posted:

OOD in my navy lifetime has been sitting at a desk and answering phones.

Here they have a POOW watch where you sit at a desk and answer questions/have to explain why the closest ER is in a town 15-20 minutes away. OOD is mainly roving the building once or twice. CDO is covered by some dude during the day for maintenance stuff and is passed on to someone that'll go home at 8 with a pager that may or may not work. Duty driver is basically everyone's bitch for runs around, regardless of if their workspace has enough bodies. Some idiot during the ladt Captain's call asked if we could just not have watches because everything we look at is automated. That went over nicely.

Howard Phillips
May 4, 2008

His smile; it shines in the darkest of depths. There is hope yet.

Stultus Maximus posted:

Some ships try to make the dissociative state sea tour flyboys qual.

e: spelling

OOD Underway qual is a career milestone requirement for pilots on command track. This is because pilots will eventually become COs of amphibs and then big deck amphibs (helo pilots) or careers (fixed wing).

I've seen senior LT pilots in my 60 detachment and every single airboss (LCDR) qualify OOD Underway. Also saw a EA-6B pilot get attached TAD to us for a month just to qualify OOD. The EA-6B guy was on shore duty as admirals aide, I guess the admiral called in a few favors. Must have been strange for his community managers to see an OOD Underway qual on a destroyer for a completely land based pilot. He was super smart and being a pilot helps a lot in quickly learning the fundamentals.

On amphibs and carriers majority of the pilots that are ship's crew will qualify OOD as long as they are "due course" as in due course for career progression.

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.
Yeah you gotta know the basics of ship driving at a minimum before you can really be in command of one. Although it is funny to think of pilots driving, it's a necessary evil.

Granted, I don't think any ever will actually ever do it much after qualifying, it isn't at all crazy for them to do it.

TsarAleksi
Nov 24, 2004

What?

Mr. Nice! posted:

Yeah you gotta know the basics of ship driving at a minimum before you can really be in command of one. Although it is funny to think of pilots driving, it's a necessary evil.

Granted, I don't think any ever will actually ever do it much after qualifying, it isn't at all crazy for them to do it.

If you're on the ship that controls the formation, the job gets a lot easier.

The Bravo det I deployed with never did any time on the bridge, but I did see an IW officer (TAD) qualify, as well as a BMC and FCCS. I think a lot of that depends on whether the CO is expecting them to actually stand the watch-- there is a big difference between that and 'qualified.'

buttplug
Aug 28, 2004

Analogical posted:

Been rollercoastering with the detailer/CCs the past three weeks, not helping that my year group is 126% over-manned for my NEC, I don't qualify for conversion to another language or a DIRSUP billet, and my options were:

JSOC
Re-enlist CTI
Crossrate CTN
Blue to Green


What kills me is the JSOC programs that take 35Ps and 1N3s, but won't take a CTI. None of them know the reason for that either and were surprised when I mentioned it. Two of them were really interested in me because of my training/instructor record but weren't able to take me unless I was a CTN for what I'm good at. The Chief from TIO more or less told me to gently caress myself slowly from behind even though I'm an instructor in classes his personnel have to fly to us to take on a regular basis.

Command pushed me to go for CTN, since that's what they basically made me train into anyway sans operations, but the DoD won't pay for any of my certs like Sec+, CCNA or CEH so it's coming out of my pocket to possibly pass, I'm spending 600 this month alone on them. The CTNCM tech advisor said they aren't taking E5 crossrates from any year group but 2009 and 2008 unless I can convince him over email that I know something about cybersecurity and show him some certificates to back it up. So, he said to email once I get CCNA.

According to my CC, my options are CTM or get out (For jobs that retain use of a TS and my work experience, arguably my best asset). However, with terminal leave I'm not out until next November. I'm in my PRD window, but I'm also about to fail my last DLPT (You can fail 3 in a row) at which point I'm forced to reclass unless the CO lets me ride out my final 18 months as a CTI. They asked why I keep failing and I was like, I dunno man, I haven't used Arabic in three years and you have me doing this other thing.

I was going to re-enlist if I could go CTN, now I'm curious if I'll get sent to CTM until I'm out since it's only a 4 month school or if I'll stay where I am and gracefully fade away. My civilian chain finds it all pretty interesting since they didn't even know I was a linguist to begin with, though it does feel weird to essentially be told I'm getting fired. I wish I was an E4, the CTNs are swallowing up E4 crossrates but I had the misfortune to get promoted to the untouchable caste.

tl;dr whatever, at least I've got my post 9/11 and know contractors. I've got savings and it's not the end of the world to be pushed out.

Email me. No, seriously. An E4Nobody should not be paying for loving certs out of pocket. Email me tomorrow, I was an IAM for 3 years I can help work the paperwork for you to get certs covered by Navy COOL. Additionally, I can help you craft an email to drop some knowledge on ole' CTNCM that will convince them its time to retire because this poo poo's a young-man's game...

buttplug fucked around with this message at 21:39 on Apr 2, 2015

Sir Lucius
Aug 3, 2003
It's true. There are no pureblood CTNCM's in the fleet.

PneumonicBook
Sep 26, 2007

Do you like our owl?



Ultra Carp

buttplug posted:

Email me. No, seriously. An E4Nobody should not be paying for loving certs out of pocket. Email me tomorrow, I was an IAM for 3 years I can help work the paperwork for you to get certs covered by Navy COOL. Additionally, I can help you craft an email to drop some knowledge on ole' CTNCM that will convince them its time to retire because this poo poo's a young-man's game...

Mind if I PM you about this also? One of my guys is trying to get some certs that aren't covered by his NEC according to Navy COOL.

Analogical
May 20, 2013

EEOD? Why not, I could use a break from work

:911:
BP: I'll shoot you an email tomorrow or Saturday, not back in Georgia until Tuesday.

He wasn't that bad over the phone, but I said some key DoD classes I feel like he should have known about. I've got over 600 hours of classroom instruction in just networking and even a little bit of C instruction, but he didn't seem to recognize any of the classes I mentioned which seemed weird since they're pretty well-known and he was skeptical a CTI could pass JCAC with all it's crazy port numbers and acronyms, because if there's one thing I'm incapable of doing, it's memorizing things.

شنق كل الكاكي

Analogical fucked around with this message at 23:19 on Apr 2, 2015

Sir Lucius
Aug 3, 2003
From what little I know about you, you would graduate top of your class in jcac, and could probably pass ion as well.

buttplug
Aug 28, 2004

PneumonicBook posted:

Mind if I PM you about this also? One of my guys is trying to get some certs that aren't covered by his NEC according to Navy COOL.

I don't have plat and my credit card isn't nearby...email me: m0tbaillie@gmail.com (that's a zero...just cut and paste it). Let me know their rating/NEC/job title/etc. and I'll see if I can flex the 8570 to help.

Fart Sandwiches
Apr 4, 2006

i never asked for this
yo there's this guy i know from the internet. he's good people.

buttplug
Aug 28, 2004

Fart Sandwiches posted:

yo there's this guy i know from the internet. he's good people.

2 or 3 of these guys are at my command and work in the same building I do.

Howard Phillips
May 4, 2008

His smile; it shines in the darkest of depths. There is hope yet.

buttplug posted:

2 or 3 of these guys are at my command and work in the same building I do.

goons

buttplug
Aug 28, 2004

You know what's goonier? I've never met any of 'em. One works/worked the graveyard shift and the other is TDY elsewhere.

edit: in fact, in 15 years I've only ever met 3-4 people from SA (one of whom I'm still good friends with and regularly go get beers with). *shrugs*

Fart Sandwiches
Apr 4, 2006

i never asked for this

buttplug posted:

You know what's goonier? I've never met any of 'em. One works/worked the graveyard shift and the other is TDY elsewhere.

edit: in fact, in 15 years I've only ever met 3-4 people from SA (one of whom I'm still good friends with and regularly go get beers with). *shrugs*

I was just giving you a hard time. I've met several goons who are here for school or whatever and it turns out only a few of us are 100 lbs overweight with no social skills.

krispykremessuck
Jul 22, 2005

unlike most veterans and SA members $10 is not a meaningful expenditure for me

I'm gonna have me a swag Bar-B-Q

Fart Sandwiches posted:

I was just giving you a hard time. I've met several goons who are here for school or whatever and it turns out only a few of us are 100 lbs overweight with no social skills.

its you, you're the guy

Fart Sandwiches
Apr 4, 2006

i never asked for this

krispykremessuck posted:

its you, you're the guy

:thejoke:

krispykremessuck
Jul 22, 2005

unlike most veterans and SA members $10 is not a meaningful expenditure for me

I'm gonna have me a swag Bar-B-Q

rude

DustyNuts
Jun 1, 2000

Have you seen me?

The only other Navy goon I've ever known IRL was bluesquares, when we were stationed in Sigonella. He was a good kid, he just needed to figure some poo poo out.

Fart Sandwiches
Apr 4, 2006

i never asked for this

ilu

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


I'm not the only goon here on Corry but I'm not really worth meeting since I'm just a dirty old boot. Honestly though you guys have been a font of knowledge and understanding on why some petty officers and chiefs act the way they act.

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.
I know a handful of goons or former goons that are all mostly normal off the internet. I don't know any fat goony spergs.

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

Mr. Nice! posted:

I know a handful of goons or former goons that are all mostly normal off the internet. I don't know any fat goony spergs.

I have knowingly met one goon offline, back in 2006 before I joined the forums. He was morbidly obese and did the "stairs" thing. It put me off registering for three years.

MancXVI
Feb 14, 2002

I've met a decent number of goons in my time. Most of them are good people.

Pandasmores
May 8, 2009

I've met three goons. One was a Nuke that failed out in the first phase, another was Christoff and the last was an ET3 on some ship in San Diego that taught me what a plank owner was since he is one.

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ProfessorBooty
Jan 25, 2004

Amulet of the Dark
I knew one goon he was a nuke and went sad.

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