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DemeaninDemon posted:The story goes Jesus took our sins, died, and freed us from them by taking them with him to the sin vault or something. It's the whole sacrifice thing. Shoulda gone into a Vault-Tec brand Vault. Safe and Secure!
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Joementum posted:How to make a cocktail, according to the US Department of Agriculture Forrest Service, 1974. That is amazing.
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Joementum posted:How to make a cocktail, according to the US Department of Agriculture Forrest Service, 1974. quote:NOTE: Pour each ingred. slowly over rounded side of tsp. or down a glass rod. If liquids mix while pouring use alternate name.  Now we just need a couple Republicans decrying such spurious government spending on something only D&D would love and we're all set.
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Wulfolme posted:See, this poo poo. I see no way this can make sense. That it makes sense has to be taken as a given and then everything can build from there if it has to. No sir, I don't like it. According to the story, god is forgiving, but also just. He can't just ignore humanity's rejection of him. Instead, the Great Accountant built in a loophole that lets us write off our debts. All we need to do is accept his divine tax advice. Atheists refuse to file their taxes, and will face a great audit upon their death.
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Adam and Eve sinned (by seeking knowledge) and because of that, all of their descendants (everyone) would be born with that sin on their souls. Angry Old Testament God (TM) proceeds to destroy the world/towns several times for their sins. AOTG punishes people left and right for their sins. If you sacrificed something important, AOTG would call it even. This goes on for a few millennia. Nice New Testament God (TM) has a change of heart and sends his son (or himself incarnate) to check out this world on a human level( or possibly the specific purpose of dying). Jesus spreads his good news and is sacrificed for it (remnants of AOTG). His death took away the original sin of Adam and Eve. But to make sure that you are able to use that sacrifice as your "get out of jail free" card, you must live your life "for Jesus" (which really depends on the individual as to what that means).
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Wulfolme posted:See, this poo poo. I see no way this can make sense. That it makes sense has to be taken as a given and then everything can build from there if it has to. No sir, I don't like it. I'm not any sort of expert on catechism besides being raised Catholic, but my understanding is that it's a sacrifice because at no point did Jesus need to die. The Pharisees were right: He could've taken himself down from that cross any time he wanted and made everyone pay for their intransigence, but the fact that he didn't and even forgave us for what we did to him is what makes Jesus' death so significant.
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Joementum posted:How to make a cocktail, according to the US Department of Agriculture Forrest Service, 1974. For the highball I think I'll go with a bourbon mix. 
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Bizarro Kanyon posted:Adam and Eve sinned (by seeking knowledge) and because of that, all of their descendants (everyone) would be born with that sin on their souls. It always seemed to me like the resurrection kinda undermines the whole thing. Like wow god, thanks for sacrificing your son for three days and then taking him right back
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Fellatio del Toro posted:It always seemed to me like the resurrection kinda undermines the whole thing. Like wow god, thanks for sacrificing your son for three days and then taking him right back https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u62cZD9Qi4I Keanu Christ.
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Michael Jackson posted:A small correction here. According to what is written Jesus presented the sacrifice later when he was in heaven. Unless one prescribe to the whole Jesus is literally God the almighty belief then it is very confusing. So what you are saying is that the Arians were correct.
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Apr 3, 2015 16:27
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Bizarro Kanyon posted:Adam and Eve sinned (by seeking knowledge) and because of that, all of their descendants (everyone) would be born with that sin on their souls. If you think about it AOTG transitioned into NNTG after banging some dude's wife.
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DemeaninDemon posted:If you think about it AOTG transitioned into NNTG after banging some dude's wife.
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high six posted:So what you are saying is that the Arians were correct. The belief in a trinity or not is up to each ones personal beliefs. I personally believe that the God of the old and new testament is the same.
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Well, the main thing about Arianism is not that the Old and New Testament Gods were the same or not, but whether God the Father was of the same substance as God the Son. If you want to be a proper Catholic, though, there isn't any wiggle room and a lot of people died fighting over this sort of thing.
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Totally normal thing Tom Cotton does: buys grocery store birthday cakes and eats them every day.quote:You have been described as having very little appetite for frivolity. Do you have any guilty pleasures? I run a lot every morning.
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Grouchio posted:So AOTG is basically a bitter virgin neet. Complete with neck beard and fedora.
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Joementum posted:Totally normal thing Tom Cotton does: buys grocery store birthday cakes and eats them every day. That is the least disturbing thing about him. And it's pretty drat disturbing.
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Apr 3, 2015 16:47
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Joementum posted:Totally normal thing Tom Cotton does: buys grocery store birthday cakes and eats them every day. I'm just amazed Cotton managed to answer an entire question without bringing up Iran.
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DaveWoo posted:I'm just amazed Cotton managed to answer an entire question without bringing up Iran. He did, he just used the present tense.
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Gravel Gravy posted:He did, he just used the present tense. 
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Everblight posted:Shoulda gone into a Vault-Tec brand Vault. Safe and Secure! Modern times require a modern solution: store it in the Bitcoin blockchain.
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Plain white sheet cake is the most boring and offensive desert ever made, gross.
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mcmagic posted:That is the least disturbing thing about him. And it's pretty drat disturbing. He also makes his wife and anyone else in the vicinity sing Happy Birthday to him before he eats. Otherwise it's just regular cake, you see.
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Luigi Thirty posted:We're all hosed. read: the end result of globalization.
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FCKGW posted:Plain white sheet cake is the most boring and offensive desert ever made, gross. If he needs a sugar rush so badly I honestly think I would look down on him less if he just ate sugar packets.
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Raskolnikov38 posted:If he needs a sugar rush so badly I honestly think I would look down on him less if he just ate sugar packets. The classic Leslie Knope
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Gravel Gravy posted:He did, he just used the present tense. Secret code. 
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Joementum posted:Quote of the night, "Neville Chamberlain got a better deal from Adolf Hitler." ~ Senator Mark Kirk. Kirk represents his constituency well. Seems to me Kirk is one of the few good Republicans in the Senate.
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Raskolnikov38 posted:If he needs a sugar rush so badly I honestly think I would look down on him less if he just ate sugar packets. He could at least go for the ice cream cakes or something more interesting.
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My Imaginary GF posted:Kirk represents his constituency well. Seems to me Kirk is one of the few good Republicans in the Senate. I really hope Duckworth takes the seat.
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Joementum posted:Totally normal thing Tom Cotton does: buys grocery store birthday cakes and eats them every day. Hey Joe I've been meaning to ask but it's been slipping my mind, what's your opinion on the education bill that just passed the VT House? From what I've been able to glean from news sources it's looking primarily to consolidate school districts, which strikes me as a non-terrible idea since the state really does have a lot of ones that are too small to effectively educate kids, but on the other hand I hear phrases such as "cut costs and reduce property taxes while providing opportunities for children," which always makes me suspicious that it might be just another mask for cutting public school funding.
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Holy poo poo people in this thread are defeatist. Things can change, and particularly in times of crisis things can change quite quickly. A better world isn't going to be easy, but it's definitely possible and worth fighting for. People have been slowly improving their world for literally millennia; what makes you think that the problems we face are in any way special?
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One lobby is already 100% Ready for Hillary, but are we going to be ready for what she will reveal?quote:Stephen Bassett is ready for Hillary. Bassett, Capitol Hill's only registered UFO lobbyist, anticipates that another Clinton presidency will offer another shot at what's long been the Holy Grail for extraterrestrial enthusiasts: full disclosure of what the US government really knows about aliens. "This is the most important issue in the world," he says. This is not the first time the Clintons have been involved in the search for The Truth. quote:In August 1995, [Laurence] Rockefeller met with Hillary Clinton, and perhaps Bill, at his Wyoming ranch. In a memo, the then-director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy, Jack Gibbons, warned the Clintons about Rockefeller's agenda before the visit. "[Rockefeller] will want to talk with you about his interest in extrasensory perception, paranormal phenomena, and UFO's," he wrote. Gibbons said he'd tried to persuade Rockefeller "not to bother you with this issue" and to focus instead on the administration's science and technology policies. Rockefeller, he continued, "knows that we are trying to be helpful in responding to his concerns about UFO's [sic] and human potential—and that we're keeping an open mind about such matters—but I've made no secret about my conviction that we must not be too diverted from more earthly imperatives." Gibbons could not be reached for comment. This would be a welcome change from the current administration, which only jokes (or are they joking?!?) about aliens. quote:Salla, who has claimed that humans are currently in touch with 17 extraterrestrial civilizations, says that Hillary Clinton's return is another indicator that the truth is coming. He cites Jimmy Kimmel's recent interview with President Obama, in which the president quipped that he hasn't delved into the government's UFO files because "the aliens won't let it happen. You'd reveal all their secrets. They exercise strict control over us." Clearly, these guys want to believe... in Hillary.
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quote:"You don't go through all of this, and have this much work, just to amuse a billionaire,"  Yes, yes you do. You whore out your boss to amuse a billionaire. You take calls at 3am to listen to rambles about UFO's to amuse a billionaire. You eat poo poo to amuse a billionaire. What the gently caress kinda lobbyist is this guy?
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VikingofRock posted:Holy poo poo people in this thread are defeatist. Things can change, and particularly in times of crisis things can change quite quickly. A better world isn't going to be easy, but it's definitely possible and worth fighting for. People have been slowly improving their world for literally millennia; what makes you think that the problems we face are in any way special? the climate issues we're currently facing are pretty clearly categorically worse than anything faced by humanity at any other time in history. like by orders of magnitude. and the people who need to be on board with fixing it almost exclusively aren't. also the world is definitely not improving for the vast majority of people at this particular moment in time I too believe that change can happen and do so rapidly, but pretending that the facts don't tell us things are historically awful is naive.
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VikingofRock posted:Holy poo poo people in this thread are defeatist. Things can change, and particularly in times of crisis things can change quite quickly. A better world isn't going to be easy, but it's definitely possible and worth fighting for. People have been slowly improving their world for literally millennia; what makes you think that the problems we face are in any way special? I'm alive to bear witness to them.  Gravel Gravy posted:He did, he just used the present tense.  You're an inspiration to us all.
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TheQat posted:the climate issues we're currently facing are pretty clearly categorically worse than anything faced by humanity at any other time in history. like by orders of magnitude. and the people who need to be on board with fixing it almost exclusively aren't. also the world is definitely not improving for the vast majority of people at this particular moment in time Climate Change: Worse than Hitler? More on this climate alarmist at 5, Sean. It won't be the worst thing to ever happen of human making. It will merely change the world and force us to come to terms with our power and depravity. JT Jag posted:That was the funniest bit to me as well Its almost as if this guy has never had to go through the hoops it takes to appease a billionaire and get their money wired directly into your accounts.
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Captain_Maclaine posted:Hey Joe I've been meaning to ask but it's been slipping my mind, what's your opinion on the education bill that just passed the VT House? From what I've been able to glean from news sources it's looking primarily to consolidate school districts, which strikes me as a non-terrible idea since the state really does have a lot of ones that are too small to effectively educate kids, but on the other hand I hear phrases such as "cut costs and reduce property taxes while providing opportunities for children," which always makes me suspicious that it might be just another mask for cutting public school funding. I basically agree. For people who don't know, Vermont has nearly 300 school districts, which is clearly unsustainable, and the bill would require the smaller ones to merge so that the minimum district size is 1,100 students. That's going to inevitably mean some redundancies and loss of full local control over education decisions, but the bigger problem with it is the (delayed for one year) spending cap.
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My Imaginary GF posted:What the gently caress kinda lobbyist is this guy? A UFO lobbyist. I think that sufficiently explains it.
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