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if you already know another programming language, sure. teaching it to a bunch of CJs who barely understand shell, it's slow going
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Apr 3, 2015 16:59
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isn't managing Ruby installs already a huge pita doesn't that mean the cm has to do some kind of bootstrapping to get Ruby working also what's wrong with ansible, I haven't used any of these but lacking Ruby sounds like a good feature to have
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Apr 3, 2015 17:21
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thinking a cm would be good for quickly setting up my linux dev machine after a reformat
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Apr 3, 2015 17:23
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celeron 300a posted:SERVER TALK rsnapshot predates Time Machine I think and creates the same resultant file structure. So what is missing as usual is the UI. I used Amanda with AFS, surprisingly not terrible. I like Unicode too much though so dumped AFS for the usual SMB/NFS combo.
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Apr 3, 2015 17:37
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Apr 3, 2015 17:39
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Progressive JPEG posted:isn't managing Ruby installs already a huge pita all dependencies, including ruby itself, are bundled into the chef/puppet packages. you almost never need to touch the chef ruby. it's a bad sign if you think you do for obvious reasons it would be kinda dangerous to have your cfg management running on the system ruby Progressive JPEG posted:also what's wrong with ansible, I haven't used any of these but lacking Ruby sounds like a good feature to have i do not like the agentless model it wants to do everything over ssh instead of ruby or the puppet dsl, it has its own declarative language based on yaml i just really do not like it
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Apr 3, 2015 17:45
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if you hate ruby, puppet is for you to reiterate, the puppet dsl is a real dsl. it is not some kind of heinous ruby bullshit. it is a parsed, declarative language that is considerably saner than ruby
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Apr 3, 2015 17:47
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:if you hate ruby, puppet is for you Yes this sounds like a worthwhile thing for someone who's just wants a wordpress blog to spend a week learning.
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Apr 3, 2015 17:48
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what about salt
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Apr 3, 2015 17:50
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Suspicious Dish posted:what about salt bad for the heart
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Apr 3, 2015 17:57
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jre posted:Yes this sounds like a worthwhile thing for someone who's just wants a wordpress blog to spend a week learning. if you just want a wordpress blog, get a hosted wordpress blog why on earth would you cj a loving linux vm just to host a blog? that's stupid
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Apr 3, 2015 18:07
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Suspicious Dish posted:what about salt i like salt as an API to run commands on groups of servers i don't like its cfg mgmt features at all
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Apr 3, 2015 18:07
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hey Notorious b.s i tried supervisord on those services we've been deploying with init and it's kind of good
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Apr 3, 2015 18:19
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graph posted:today i learned you can add disks to your current time machine mount and it'll just tack on the space no questions asked argh i lied, nevermind
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Apr 3, 2015 18:20
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lmao @ huffing and puffing over puppet on localhost so linux it hurts
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Apr 3, 2015 18:20
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cthulhoo posted:lmao @ huffing and puffing over puppet on localhost as usual linux leads the way and proprietary systems struggle to keep up
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Apr 3, 2015 18:23
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celeron 300a posted:Has anyone actually ever used deja dup? me
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Apr 3, 2015 18:24
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if you didn't understand i'm laffing irl over the concept of using a cm solution on a poo poo irssi vm buh-buh-buh what if it becomes enterprise level irssi *farts* loving lol
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Apr 3, 2015 18:25
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why yes i need a rabbitmq to ~properly~ manage my .muttrc in a scalable fashion on my poo poo localhost fedora for im not some scrub bitch but a Enterprise Admin e: deja-dup / duplicity is needs suiting imo
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Apr 3, 2015 18:28
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yes this is a dumb gimmick hes had for a while
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Apr 3, 2015 18:32
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:as usual linux leads the way and proprietary systems struggle to keep up group policies has been around since forever man
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Apr 3, 2015 18:34
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:if you don't know ruby you probably want to use puppet instead of chef. puppet is just as good, and in some ways better. most notably: you do not have to learn ruby I tried to learn Python in high school and couldn't wrap my head around writing code in it, if that tells you anything.
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Apr 3, 2015 18:41
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nbsd is completely incapable of imagining a possible use case for a Linux that isn't his, news at 11
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Apr 3, 2015 18:44
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so you want to run irssi on a vm? let me a few paragraphs re: ruby and poo poo because one size fits all is the only approach i, a literal autistic robot, can understand beep loving bop
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Apr 3, 2015 18:45
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Captain Foo posted:nbsd is completely incapable of imagining a possible use case for a Linux that isn't his, news at 11 that's because there isn't one because linux is shithouse lol
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Apr 3, 2015 18:46
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Forums Terrorist posted:that's because there isn't one because linux is shithouse lol are you saying..... His operating system is a piece of poo poo???
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Apr 3, 2015 18:47
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:if you want to be completely certain, lenovo has a "certified for linux" program. the x250 isn't on their matrix yet, but the x1 carbon is thanks nbsd. i'm looking to install centos 7 so it's really helpful that they say which laptops are rhel 7 certified.
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Apr 3, 2015 18:52
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Don't put too much stock in that list, the touchpad is a loving mess out of the box. you have to add poo poo to /etc/xorg.conf.d/ to make it work right however if you install the latest and greatest gnome 3 then the hidpi support is almost perfect
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Apr 3, 2015 18:54
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I love gnome 3
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Apr 3, 2015 18:59
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i'll get round to trying gnome3 one day i swear until then i will continue to harbor an irrational and uninformed hatred of it because i don't want to lose graybeard cred
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Apr 3, 2015 19:13
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i like lxde
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Apr 3, 2015 19:15
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Soricidus posted:i'll get round to trying gnome3 one day i swear dont worry its poo poo
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Apr 3, 2015 19:15
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pram posted:dont worry its poo poo nice troll
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Apr 3, 2015 19:16
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i like KDE plasma 5 and i always thought KDE looked like trash
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Apr 3, 2015 19:17
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kde 5 is the first one not to look like trash since kde 2. and kde 2 still looks better than every slavish apple osx/ios ripoff out there today. a durr durr but we're not ripping off apple because we don't have a dock or a global top menu bar we just have every single other aspect of their design language *faaaart*
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Apr 3, 2015 19:24
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celeron 300a posted:When will Open Source write something as good as Time Machine? isn't rdiff-backup and rdiff-backup-fs basically the same thing? granted i've never used that for anything approaching a large amount of data, seems to work well enough though
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Apr 3, 2015 19:31
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gently caress flat design, i like my interface to have some depth and curves
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Apr 3, 2015 19:33
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you can accomplish something similar with hard links rsync -avz --delete --link-dest="/backup/whatever-`date +"%Y%m%d"`/" /porn/ /backup/whatever-today/
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cthulhoo posted:if you didn't understand i'm laffing irl over the concept of using a cm solution on a poo poo irssi vm on an irssi vm i might understand not bothering, seeing as there is nothing to configure, no services running, and nothing to maintain. set it to patch itself and you're done, right? atomicthumbs wants to run a bigass cms thing on his vm. it's gonna be a configuration and maintenance hairball. that's what's gonna happen. cfg mgmt exists to help you unfuck yourself.
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