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Sauer posted:Question to bros with gravity feed brushes. How often do you lay your brush down forgetting its a gravity feed? I've been using this loving brick off and on for about a decade now and it's been fine for simple tasks but does gravity feeds make a big difference? How much of a brick is that VL? I get hard thinking about that Sotar but I can't spread that kinda dough around right now. It looks like that's both the most bang per buck and the on the lower end of the price range for higher end air brushes, am I missing something?
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I've been experimenting with thinning my airbrush paints using organic (NOT regular, it's too thick) olive oil. Really helps with tip dry .
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Apr 3, 2015 07:15
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DiHK posted:Hey I want this airbrush argument to continue for a few more pages so someone tell me just what "airbrush thinner" is and whether or not I can use tap water instead. Well, the suit and the airbrush (and the air) are made of chemicals too, so you're pretty much hosed.
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Apr 3, 2015 08:37
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Speaking of Hollismason's misinformation, at the airbrush demonstration I did last weekend I had more than one person trying to tell me that you couldn't use plain water to thin paints, and others being honestly surprised that I was using water to thin my paint. We even had one guy trying to tell the guy I was working for (who's been spraying cars, motorcycles and helmets for longer than I've been alive) that based on his knowledge it's 'impossible' to use tap water to thin acrylic paints, because the binders separate and the paint becomes unusable. That conversation didn't end well.
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Apr 3, 2015 10:40
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Yep most of the time I just use tap water, and I've never worried about ratios much either. Just blop in a bit more water with a brush till it sprays good I'll only bust out the fancy stuff ( a huge bottle of IPA I got from a chemist) for metallics.
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Apr 3, 2015 11:05
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Does anyone remember the name of the cut price, bulk order style flock place that's just like woodland scenics only cheaper? I forgot to bookmark it the last time anyone linked it, and I'm in need of a certain type of grass 
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Apr 3, 2015 11:08
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krushgroove posted:Speaking of Hollismason's misinformation, at the airbrush demonstration I did last weekend I had more than one person trying to tell me that you couldn't use plain water to thin paints, and others being honestly surprised that I was using water to thin my paint. I just did a little googling on that subject and I have seen many articles saying that it is possible to add too much water to acrylic paints as to make them break down, for example: http://painting.about.com/od/acrylicpaintingfaq/f/FAQthinacrylic.htm So what's the real deal? Can something water soluable not get to a point where its been too diluted to work properly? (Prefer the non 'conversation didnt end well' version)
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Apr 3, 2015 12:27
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Blackchamber posted:I just did a little googling on that subject and I have seen many articles saying that it is possible to add too much water to acrylic paints as to make them break down, for example: http://painting.about.com/od/acrylicpaintingfaq/f/FAQthinacrylic.htm Sort of. Acrylics essentially form a film. Too much water will absolutely weaken that film. They still work, but that film is going to be relatively fragile. In miniature painting we kinda need to break some rules. We need really high contrast blends over incredibly small areas while not obscuring the sculpted detail. The best way to do that is using really thin layers, far in excess of the recommended no more than 50% water. As long as the pigment is ground fine enough and we're taking steps to mitigate the fragility i.e. future chat then this isn't a big problem.
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Apr 3, 2015 12:45
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krushgroove posted:We even had one guy trying to tell the guy I was working for (who's been spraying cars, motorcycles and helmets for longer than I've been alive) that based on his knowledge it's 'impossible' to use tap water to thin acrylic paints, because the binders separate and the paint becomes unusable. That conversation didn't end well. My experience with Vallejo paints is, that if you thin them with water, they will seperate relatively quickly on the palette. They don't "become unusable", you just have to stir them briefly to get them reemulsified, but it's annoying, and maybe it's where that idea comes from. This issue is why I switched to Reaper paints, which don't do this. In my hands. YMMV. Dr Hemulen fucked around with this message at 13:16 on Apr 3, 2015 |
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Apr 3, 2015 13:07
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For what it's worth, I really like the way Reaper paints behave under heavy dilution as well. I haven't to this point taken much advantage of that because I haven't had the patience to really put a lot of time into a display level piece yet, but that's one of my goals for this year/ next oath thread. 1 display piece a month.
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Apr 3, 2015 13:20
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I'm having serious issues with inconsistant coverage with them, but I think it may because I'm too impatient when shaking the bottle  It would be interesting to have a serious comparison between the brands for this kind of properties, because there really are differences beyond the placebo effect.
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Apr 3, 2015 13:22
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You mean streakiness or transparency? Streaks are usually from too much paint on the brush, but it's going to happen to some extent regardless. Certain colors, I'm looking at you purple, are more prone to streaking, but as always the solution is more thinner layers and going back over transitions with a glaze of the previous color.
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Apr 3, 2015 13:29
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Mostly transparacy, which is why I think it's due to improper shaking. Edit: Also I spent too much time thinking about painting in stead of painting. Dr Hemulen fucked around with this message at 13:36 on Apr 3, 2015 |
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Apr 3, 2015 13:34
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1) big_g holy poo poo those aero ships look great 2) Moola  HardCoil posted:
Holy gently caress, the idea of a regular Marine punching things, people, creatures, vehicles, space ships, and extra dimensional beings just like a power fist is great. The model looks great, too.
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Apr 3, 2015 13:43
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If you actually want to use a organic and enviro-friendly product to clean your airbrush you can use Citrus Solvent.
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Apr 3, 2015 14:03
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or piss
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Apr 3, 2015 16:09
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Piss is already pre-thinned and you can vary the shade by controlling your water intake. Blood is also already thinned to the right consistency.
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Apr 3, 2015 17:55
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well that's good because ive already been pissing on my models for that extra NURGLE feel
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Apr 3, 2015 18:00
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Moola whose cereal did you piss in to get that avatar?
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Apr 3, 2015 18:07
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more like whos gumbo did I piss in lmao
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Apr 3, 2015 18:08
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Freaky Friday https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UShtvCen6So Has anyone used Testors Aluminium buffable metallic medium? Or any of their products , I've never bought anything from them. Hollismason fucked around with this message at 18:45 on Apr 3, 2015 |
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Apr 3, 2015 18:40
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Moola posted:or piss Stores easily in old milk jugs or gatorade bottles if you have them. The downside is it can go bad over time so store it in the fridge or freezer when not using it.
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Apr 3, 2015 18:47
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I ussually just store it in my gumbo pot tbh yeah I keep it in the fridge so it keeps longer all my food and drink now tastes of piss, but hey its a CHEAP way to flavor your food right?
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Apr 3, 2015 18:49
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Me practicing/learning two-brush-blending with shading: Oh, this isnt so bad, kinda just works, pretty easy. Me practicing/learning two-brush-blending with highlights: gently caress THIS I VILL KILL EVERYONE IN ZE VORLD I fixed it with some midtone glazes but seriously it's like a thousand times harder
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Apr 3, 2015 20:38
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JoshTheStampede posted:Me practicing/learning two-brush-blending with shading: Oh, this isnt so bad, kinda just works, pretty easy. That's my exact experience with two brush blending as well. I've been told to undercoat with the highlight colour and shade down to mid tone and then to shadow. That or just use glazes for the highlights. Edit: check out this guy on youtube, really good painter and uses a lot of two brush blending.
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Apr 4, 2015 00:06
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Just saw this product up on kickstarter for cleaning up 3d printed objects. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1654851065/retouch3d-a-brand-new-way-to-finish-3d-prints/comments Basically a sodering iron with adjustable heat and different heads. Seems like something that might work really well for cleaning up models - from removing thick gates on resin models to removing flash and even removing defects. Any one else think it might be a cool investment?
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Apr 4, 2015 01:39
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I think fresh piss would work as a cleaner, but mine's all juacked up with flushed sugar, any nice goons wanna send me a bottle or two? I did really want an answer to this: DiHK posted:Does gravity feeds make a big difference? How much of a brick is that VL?
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Apr 4, 2015 02:45
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Yes, gravity feeds make a big difference. I love my Sotar a lot. It's just a ridiculous precision instrument, and when it goes on sale at amazon for $80-$90 it's almost a criminally good deal. That all said. I probably would have quit airbrushing if it was my first brush. It's not a forgiving brush, and only after a year did I have a good system in place for its finnicky nature. That's after airbrushing for a couple years before the sotar.
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Apr 4, 2015 03:02
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It's actually at 97 dollars right now with free shipping on Amazon.
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Apr 4, 2015 03:31
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Hollismason posted:It's actually at 97 dollars right now with free shipping on Amazon. I know, I can't justify it unless i get another gig or two this month. Then wife be damned, I've lusted after it for about 3 years now.
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Apr 4, 2015 04:03
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I'd really suggest using one of those Amazon Trackers then. It looks like though there's a good stock left but with that price who knows.
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Apr 4, 2015 04:21
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It's a good brush but a bad starter. If it's your first you definitely want more of a workhorse brush with a more general range rather than something that fine. Something like a Paasche Talon. Actually TBH the best starter airbrush right now is probably a Veda. They're a (I think) Thai or Taiwanese company that makes knock offs of the Talon and H&S brushes and they are drat good for the price. The 180 and 130 are the ones you see on eBay and stuff, and they are both good, the 180 is a more Iwata/H&S styled brush while the 130 is more like a Paasche or Sparmax.
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Apr 4, 2015 04:35
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El Estrago Bonito posted:Something like a Paasche Talon. I use the gravity feed version of this and its a really good brush.
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Apr 4, 2015 04:46
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Sauer posted:I use the gravity feed version of this and its a really good brush. My friend once termed it "the AK47 of Airbrushes" which is probably a good idea of what it's capable of.
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Apr 4, 2015 04:48
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I use a paasch VL so not a noob, but I tend to stick to primer and base coats with it. I once expirimented with some nids with it. Wish I still had those, I liked how they turned out. P sure it was just the lighter browns and the first washes that were with the airbrush, purples and the dark brown was brush work.   DiHK fucked around with this message at 05:02 on Apr 4, 2015 |
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Apr 4, 2015 04:59
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Does anyone know of any decently priced "quiet" or sound suppressed air compressor, mines not super loud but it's loud enough and I'd like to get something with less noise but a good price.
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Apr 4, 2015 05:02
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Build a box, put compressor inside, and then fill everything around it with spray foam. Bonus: Wrap the box in fur from your taxidermy animals, it will work even better. This is only a partial joke.
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Apr 4, 2015 05:07
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In my mind hollismasons painting room looks like a crime scene from true detective.
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Apr 4, 2015 05:37
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El Estrago Bonito posted:My friend once termed it "the AK47 of Airbrushes" which is probably a good idea of what it's capable of. I say this about the Badger Patriot all the time. That thing is a loving juggernaut.
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Hollismason posted:Does anyone know of any decently priced "quiet" or sound suppressed air compressor, mines not super loud but it's loud enough and I'd like to get something with less noise but a good price. The Ninja works and is quiet but they are oil-less, low PSI and burn out fast. If you have real money to spend then the SilentAire 20-A is loving great, but it's also not cheap. Comedy Option: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBm8XnIc2oU
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