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Valeyard posted:Well it worked out well for his Mum And really, being mayor of Starling is a terrible career move for anyone.
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The degree of rage bubbling off Lance through that episode was amazing. Whether you agree with how he sees things or not , you can't help but buy that he has had about all that he can stand with this vigilante stuff.
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Apr 4, 2015 02:01
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evenworse username posted:The degree of rage bubbling off Lance through that episode was amazing. Paul Blackthorn is basically acting everyone else out of the room and it's great to watch, though it's causing his American accent to get a bit strangled.
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Apr 4, 2015 02:05
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I appreciate that Ollie was letting the man vent, and that arguing isn't going to really change anything, but that whole speech in the paddy wagon was begging for a retort. I mean, no-one MADE Sara get on the boat, she was a grown woman who made a dumb choice. And the only reason the boat sank was because Merlyn was already planning his earthquake machine thing, so um... that's hundreds, if not thousands alive that would've died because Oliver (and Lance) stopped part of that. Deathstroke... er... OK, he kinda has a point. Though there's no guarantee that Slade wouldn't have gone mirukuru-crazy on the island and done something similar somewhere else. I don't even think this is a criticism, I think it's good writing, because it's totally believable that Lance is willfully ignoring this because it doesn't fit his current narrative of "Arrow = murderer at worst, and at best, gently caress-up that caused every tragedy in the last 3 years".
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Gaz-L posted:I appreciate that Ollie was letting the man vent, and that arguing isn't going to really change anything, but that whole speech in the paddy wagon was begging for a retort. I mean, no-one MADE Sara get on the boat, she was a grown woman who made a dumb choice. And the only reason the boat sank was because Merlyn was already planning his earthquake machine thing, so um... that's hundreds, if not thousands alive that would've died because Oliver (and Lance) stopped part of that. Yeah, sure rationally blaming everything on Oliver doesn't make sense. However, it's not a stretch to say that every bad thing that has happened to Lance in the last few years is tied to Oliver. I remember second season when they had the flash back to the Lance household the days leading up to the boat trip, they were laying it own so thick about how perfect everything was it felt like they were trying to make it funny. It was basically this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zdQn3X2KVo
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Apr 4, 2015 02:18
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Bad Moon posted:I hope when the Flash visits alternat time lines Sarah, Moira and Tommy are alive Moira won't. Susanna Thompson has said she doesn't want to come back for any kind of flashbacks or cameos according to the producers. They wanted to have her in one this year and she declined.
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Apr 4, 2015 02:48
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Deadpool posted:Moira won't. Susanna Thompson has said she doesn't want to come back for any kind of flashbacks or cameos according to the producers. They wanted to have her in one this year and she declined. Wow. Any reason why?
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Apr 4, 2015 03:08
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Polaron posted:Wow. Any reason why? There are a lot of actors who really don't want to be too associated with genre work. It is quickly going away, but there are still a few people.
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Apr 4, 2015 03:49
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Bandanna posted:There are a lot of actors who really don't want to be too associated with genre work. It is quickly going away, but there are still a few people. She spent two years on there. I'm not sure that's the problem. If I were to guess it would either be that she doesn't want to travel in order to do a cameo, is the kind of actress that doesn't want to revisit the same parts when she's done with them, or she's bitter that they killed her off. Any are pretty plausible.
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10 Beers posted:Just a thought, but does it bother anyone else just how much Ollie uses his bow as a melee weapon? Especially against swords and stuff. Like, this is your primary weapon, which will be disabled if a blade hits it the wrong way, and through which you usually have an escape option. Go a little easier on it! During the One Year Later arc (from which the show drew a lot of material) Ollie was revealed to have retrained himself and was now carrying a sword, just like Robin Hood. I kind of wish they'd incorporate that into the show.
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I went looking to see if I could find her stating a reason. I didn't find one, but I did read an interview from right after Moira was killed where she said (paraphrasing) 1) She does think there were still been good Moira stories to be told, but the show is focusing more on other characters. Given that, she would rather Moira go out in a big way then fade into the background. Moiras could never be the kind of character that shows up for a few minutes every couple episodes to be Oliver's worrying and supportive mother. 2) She liked the Moiras conclusion being a beautiful, courageous moment. So given that my guess would be she doesn't want to cheapen the final arc and she doesn't want to do cameos just for the sake of cameos.
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Well since people brought it up and this is comic book talk but I've look forward to them hopefully doing this arc forever , I'll spoiler it just in case . The reason I was so excited for Bronze Tiger was that that meant a possibility of Richard Dragon, one of DCs greatest martial artists showing up to train Oliver, basically Oliver gets clowned by Lady Shiva who's considered the best martial artist in DC, but she lets him live then he goes off and trains with Richard Dragon . I think that's how it went , but it was a really interesting turning point for his character
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Deadpool posted:She spent two years on there. I'm not sure that's the problem. If I were to guess it would either be that she doesn't want to travel in order to do a cameo, is the kind of actress that doesn't want to revisit the same parts when she's done with them, or she's bitter that they killed her off. Any are pretty plausible. IIRC she only had nice things to say in interviews after they killed off Moira so I doubt it's the latter.
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Lol at the glamour pic of of Amell they threw in there at the police station.
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Hollismason posted:Well since people brought it up and this is comic book talk but I've look forward to them hopefully doing this arc forever , I'll spoiler it just in case . The reason I was so excited for Bronze Tiger was that that meant a possibility of Richard Dragon, one of DCs greatest martial artists showing up to train Oliver, basically Oliver gets clowned by Lady Shiva who's considered the best martial artist in DC, but she lets him live then he goes off and trains with Richard Dragon . I think that's how it went , but it was a really interesting turning point for his character I wasn't reading Green Arrow in the 1990's but what you've described was the arc The Question went through. I know in the 90's that Ollie was doing the Longbow Hunter thing but it's possible that Richard Dragon was also in Green Arrow. My favourite part was this Question/Green Arrow/Batman crossover. You see all throughout the Question's series whenever Richard Dragon had shown up he was in a wheelchair. But there has been reports about Richard walking around kicking rear end. Batman asks Ollie if he knows anything about these discepancies. Ollie: Some days I hear Richard is stuck in a chair. And some days I hear he can run faster than a rabbit.
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10 Beers posted:Just a thought, but does it bother anyone else just how much Ollie uses his bow as a melee weapon? Especially against swords and stuff. Like, this is your primary weapon, which will be disabled if a blade hits it the wrong way, and through which you usually have an escape option. Go a little easier on it! I am trying to look up the quote, but it's from Season 1 of the show. I think it's the episode with Vertigo, but Ollie is unable to use his Bow for a confrontation with some bad dudes. Diggle asks him what he will do. And Ollie just says "People make the mistake of thinking that the Bow is my only weapon. I AM the weapon!"
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Apr 4, 2015 14:31
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Best scene of this episode was when the team were discussing what to do in the Arrow Cave and Oliver was whining about how Ra's was using "his city" against him and both Roy and Laurel were like "oh god here we go again  "
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I've enjoyed this episode in a way I had not enjoyed a full episode in a while--it feels like there's a more, direct coherent story being told. Oliver's life being detonated around him is pretty cool, especially since a tv show can follow up on that more. I still think a lot of the season was odd, but it's nice if the show finishes in a strong stretch. Best moment of the episode: Oliver genuinely saying he loved Lance's family and getting immediately slapped for it. Oliver says something true and unguarded for once and gets the taste slapped out of his mouth.
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Welpquote:Just about everyone loves Manu Bennett's take on Deathstroke the Terminator on The CW's Arrow...except, apparently, Bennett himself.
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Apr 4, 2015 20:08
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He likes the horrible version of Deathstroke that everybody hates.
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Apr 4, 2015 20:11
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Apr 4, 2015 20:12
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He wanted to show up in Flash and have Barry run into a sword.
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Crixus was always kinda a dick
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Apr 4, 2015 20:50
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The writing for the character was pretty awful, so good on him for putting and end to him, before it got more corny. He normally seems like a good sport, though, shame on him for being a poo poo about it.
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Apr 4, 2015 21:00
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Well, to be fair people may hate the unstoppable Deathstroke from the comics but that version never got all weepy over a ghost in his head so Bennett may have some beef.
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Apr 4, 2015 21:07
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Deathstroke gets beat up by a bunch of super powered kids all the time and he complains about what happened in Arrow? Come on. 
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Apr 4, 2015 21:30
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He sounds like an ungrateful dick. Probably not the best way to get future roles.
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HUGE SPACEKABLOOIE posted:Crixus was always kinda a dick overtone posted:He sounds like an ungrateful dick. Probably not the best way to get future roles. ufarn posted:The writing for the character was pretty awful, so good on him for putting and end to him, before it got more corny. He normally seems like a good sport, though, shame on him for being a poo poo about it. I loooove how you guys are going apeshit about this. It's hilarious. The guy should be able to speak his mind freely. Why does that make him a dick again? The character started out amazing but he's totally right that it went in the wrong direction and the writing got horrible. The way he kept talking to Shado's ghost was particularly cringe-worthy, and his appearance in Season 3 was a total joke. I don't agree that it should have been an unstoppable character like in the comics, but still, I'm siding with Bennett on this one, and props to him that he's being vocal about it.
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I really liked this episode. Slowly but surely, Ollie's going from "dimestore Batman" to Green Arrow. I hope Roy's stunt is what causes him to start getting called Green Arrow ("What, the guy in red is the arrow now? Should we call you the Green Arrow or something?") and that he hates every minute of it. 
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enraged_camel posted:The guy should be able to speak his mind freely. Why does that make him a dick again? The character started out amazing but he's totally right that it went in the wrong direction and the writing got horrible. That's not what he said.
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Aphrodite posted:That's not what he said. ??? quote:“I think Deathstroke had a lot of possibilities with Arrow but, I think they took it in the wrong direction,” Bennett told theMusic.com.au
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Aphrodite posted:That's not what he said. Well he's definitely not wrong about the S3 appearance being about him getting his rear end kicked to catalyse the Sara reveal to Thea. The character he was in the previous seasons really deserved better than that.
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I don't think he sounds that ungrateful. If not for the "wrong direction" bit, he'd just sound like any other nerd talking about a comics character. Like, so what if he didn't like Deathstroke's writing this season? Half this forum doesn't either. I mean, I do, 'cuz I hate comics Deathstroke and seeing any Deathstroke get chumped is a good time for me.  And that episode was one of the strongest of the season anyway.
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It's not like I think Manu Bennett is actually a dick or something, I don't know the guy it's just funny.
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The more I think about it, the more I think DC wouldn't let Arrow use Deathstroke again, and he had to spend his final episode getting beat up.
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overtone posted:The more I think about it, the more I think DC wouldn't let Arrow use Deathstroke again, and he had to spend his final episode getting beat up. I'm wondering if this and the thing with Deadshot are why they created the Deadbolt dude we'll be getting.
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It makes sense that Deadshot, having been wasting away in jail for a year, couldn't take on Arrow and his sister. But as long as his motive is "Shado Shado Shado", it may be limiting.
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The entire thing is about how badass he thought Slade should have been. He doesn't say anything about character or writing. The part you quoted is about how he thinks Deathstroke should have been unstoppable, instead of beatable by the hero of the show. He did interviews before talking about how Arrow is really Slade's story and things like that. He's a weird guy who gets way into his characters.
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Polaron posted:I'm wondering if this and the thing with Deadshot are why they created the Deadbolt dude we'll be getting. Nah, Deathbolt is a c-list metahuman from the comics which is being used as a way to start tying in the whole superpowers/mystical stuff together between Flash and Arrow.
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