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Krinkle posted:Now I see there's a third book, and while I generally liked the first two, it looks like none of the cast returns, as it's even further in the future, and I feel exhausted just thinking about it. The hardest part of the dune books was when they'd go another 20k years in the future and everyone is dead but ol' duncan idaho's eleventy billionth awakened clone. I'm reflexively flinching in anticipation of that kind of deal, here. The dune sequels are way better than endymion and rise of endymion. I freely admit that the dune sequels get progressively weirder and more esoteric, but they are far and away better than the endymion books.
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Can't find a suitable thread, so here we go. Zombie lit. What's good, what must be read? I've read the Zombie Planet series which were pretty cray and fun. I have The Girl With All the Gifts and Zone One Lined up. Anything else out there?
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Yea, this thread told me I would hate the Endymion books, but I did enjoy them. But I'm a moron so who the hell knows.
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Mister Kingdom posted:The resurrection creches - yeah, I'd love to travel FTL, but not like that. I haven't read the Endymion books but I know of this and it is a cool concept.
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Neurosis posted:I haven't read the Endymion books but I know of this and it is a cool concept. Is it the same idea as the vampire tubes from Blindsight? In that book they gave their space people partial vampirism, drained their blood, pumped it back in once they get to wherever they're heading. They feel like poo poo but are alive and doing science. From what I know about the cruciforms it feels like they might just kill you, freeze you, ship you out, wait for you to get there, and then allow the cruciform to revive you. I mean if you were sociopathic and didn't consider brain damage and cloacas to be a downside. Without reading further that's my best guess for what you could be talking about.
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Krinkle posted:Is it the same idea as the vampire tubes from Blindsight? In that book they gave their space people partial vampirism, drained their blood, pumped it back in once they get to wherever they're heading. They feel like poo poo but are alive and doing science. From what I know about the cruciforms it feels like they might just kill you, freeze you, ship you out, wait for you to get there, and then allow the cruciform to revive you. I mean if you were sociopathic and didn't consider brain damage and cloacas to be a downside. the specialized ftl drive subjects the ship to such acceleration that it turns the human crew into paste, so only people with the cruciform parasites can use it (the cruciform just reconstitutes the human host from the resulting undifferentiated bulk material afterward). Edit: your second point is addressed right away in endymion, the technocore comes up with some solution (maybe already had it, i forget) that prevents the loss of copy fidelity from the cruciform deaths and gives it to the space catholics who market it as the literal resurrection. andrew smash fucked around with this message at 03:48 on Apr 4, 2015 |
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Apr 4, 2015 03:45
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Krinkle posted:Is it the same idea as the vampire tubes from Blindsight? In that book they gave their space people partial vampirism, drained their blood, pumped it back in once they get to wherever they're heading. They feel like poo poo but are alive and doing science. From what I know about the cruciforms it feels like they might just kill you, freeze you, ship you out, wait for you to get there, and then allow the cruciform to revive you. I mean if you were sociopathic and didn't consider brain damage and cloacas to be a downside. While essentially doing the same thing (killing you for the purpose of travel and bringing you back with cool tech), what is described above is so much more visceral.
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Yeah, the Archangel ships are the only cool part of Endymion and I will happily spoil them to save people from reading that book.
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thehomemaster posted:Can't find a suitable thread, so here we go. I don't know as far as Zombie literature, but the White Trash Zombie series by Diana Rowland is surprisingly good and goofy fun. In the past few years I've read three of the four books and thought they were all nice.
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Nice, I'll check it out. Though fyi literature means written works.
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thehomemaster posted:Nice, I'll check it out. denotatively, perhaps, but we all use it connotatively here. I also went and looked up The Girl With All The Gifts, and that sounds really neat. The nice thing about zombie books is that even if I don't end up liking it, my mom or sister will.
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thehomemaster posted:Can't find a suitable thread, so here we go. The Zombie Survival Guide and World War Z by Max Brooks are both pretty good. vvv What? thehomemaster specifically asked for zombie books. Crashbee fucked around with this message at 19:03 on Apr 4, 2015 |
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Apr 4, 2015 08:04
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Please don't tell people to read a bunch of garbage zombie books, what is wrong with you
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Crashbee posted:The Zombie Survival Guide and World War Z by Max Brooks are both pretty good. I couldn't finish World War Z. The stories didn't stand alone enough to be enjoyed individually, but didn't have enough connection to work as a novel. I couldn't make myself care about these fleshless people or events when I'm just being sent to a new POV shortly to find new people to not feel for.
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That's a fair call, but then I think you were reading it wrong.
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I remember hearing back in the 80's publishers of fantasy stuff kept a seperate slush pile just for the sheer volume of 'Retelling of Arthurian tales' with a twist. Modern day, the knights are woman, space Arthur, super-gritty, Fairies!, etc etc. They must have to do something similar for zombie novels these days. It really baffles me how many are published. I mean i read a few zombie novels, they were fine, i moved on after that because they're pretty similar after a couple. That was in 2008. Who's buying all of these and not getting bored with them?
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andrew smash posted:Edit: your second point is addressed right away in endymion, the technocore comes up with some solution (maybe already had it, i forget) that prevents the loss of copy fidelity from the cruciform deaths and gives it to the space catholics who market it as the literal resurrection. The Space Catholics made a deal to modify the cruciform. Originally it would resurrect you, but each time you came back, you'd lose some intelligence and eventually your junk. Oh, and it takes three days to fully resurrect you. Wonder why that was....
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The Walking Dead is like the most popular television show at the moment... Anyway, read this http://www.city-journal.org/2014/24_4_urb-the-walking-dead.html
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thehomemaster posted:Can't find a suitable thread, so here we go. Daryl Gregory's Raising Stony Mayhall is an awesome book. I'm not really into zombie books, but this one's similar to Girl With All the Gifts in that it's a really good book that happens to be a zombie one.
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thehomemaster posted:Can't find a suitable thread, so here we go. Handling the Undead, by John Ajvide Lindqvist (of Let The Right One In fame). Go in as cold as possible, as it's not quite what you might expect.
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I really enjoyed the Day by Day Armageddon series by J.L. Bourne. The Matt Richter novels are pretty awesome, by Tim Waggoner. It's a zombie detective story but he doesn't eat people. He's just sort of.. undead. City of the Lost is pretty awesome, by Stephen Blackmoore. Best book with a psychotic midget that I have ever read. Adam Baker has a unique zombie series. Most of the series is pretty good, but Terminus was just complete poo poo. Joe McKinney writes some decent zombie stuff. I've only read the first 2 books, but so far they are ok. About to read one about a zombie infestation on a cruise ship. Should be interesting. I tend to read a lot of zombie novels but 95% of em suck or just aren't worth recommending. If I think of anything else (that hasn't been mentioned already) I'll edit the post.
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Not a big zombie guy but enjoyed World War Z. Found Day by Day Armageddon and its sequels to be a snooze, same with a similar series set in England (something about autumn in the title?). Brian Keene wrote some popular zombie stuff several years ago, it's quite gruesome and the outbreak is demonic rather than viral but some of the sex stuff wasn't for me (zombie-human sex and some rape I think).
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Jedit posted:Handling the Undead, by John Ajvide Lindqvist (of Let The Right One In fame). Go in as cold as possible, as it's not quite what you might expect.
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Oh hey the hugo nominations are out, let's see who got a nod:quote:
That's a pretty severe 'what the gently caress'.
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John C. Wright, even though he's an insane turbo-fundie, is a decent writer, at least. I find him getting three nominations out of five amusing, actually. It's the other side of the endless Scalzi/McGuire nomination circlejerk coin in that it shows how poo poo Hugo procedure actually is. They're really shooting themselves in the foot with Vox Day, though. EDIT: quote:BEST NOVEL (1827 ballots) Lol. I like The Goblin Emperor, at least? Megazver fucked around with this message at 20:38 on Apr 4, 2015 |
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Apr 4, 2015 20:29
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There's one light in the darkness: Dramatic Presentation (Short Form) isn't >50% Doctor Who. Something like half the ballot being based on a troll block vote isn't very good for their credibility though.
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Peel posted:Something like half the ballot being based on a troll block vote isn't very good for their credibility though. It's gonna be funny to see "No award" win half the ballot.
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Drifter posted:Why is Vox Day bad? is it just an entire company or something? Enjoy, or don't: http://voxday.blogspot.com/
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Vox Day is fundamentalist Baptist writer Theodore Beale. He believes black people are subhuman, made veiled threats to kill NK Jemisin, stands for the eradication of women's rights, and so on. He's part of a block voting group called Sad Puppies.
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Ahahaha. Whoa lordy I read some of that blog and boy howdy what a doozy of a muffin. I don't know why Jim Butcher is on that best novel list.
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Vox Day has been a rallying point for people mad about 'SJWs' in SFF for a while (he was ejected from the SFWA a couple years ago, but even before that). I honestly don't know why, there's gotta be better hills to die on than an actual white supremacist.
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thehomemaster posted:Can't find a suitable thread, so here we go. John Ringo's zombie books (Under a Graveyard Sky, etc...) aren't bad, actually. Very John Ringo- the villains are ecoterrorists, and the good guys are international banks and halliburton- but not bad.
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Drifter posted:Ahahaha. Whoa lordy I read some of that blog and boy howdy what a doozy of a muffin. He (along with Anderson and Kloos for Best Novel, and lots of nominees in the other categories) was part of the 'Sad Puppy' slate: https://bradrtorgersen.wordpress.com/2015/02/01/sad-puppies-3-the-2015-hugo-slate/
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Peel posted:Vox Day has been a rallying point for people mad about 'SJWs' in SFF for a while (he was ejected from the SFWA a couple years ago, but even before that). I honestly don't know why, there's gotta be better hills to die on than an actual white supremacist. "SJW"s are censoring everybody these days: http://nihilistic-kid.livejournal.com/1920691.html
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Megazver posted:John C. Wright, even though he's an insane turbo-fundie, is a decent writer, at least. I find him getting three nominations out of five amusing, actually "Castalia House" is apparently Vox Day's imprint.
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fritz posted:He (along with Anderson and Kloos for Best Novel, and lots of nominees in the other categories) was part of the 'Sad Puppy' slate: https://bradrtorgersen.wordpress.com/2015/02/01/sad-puppies-3-the-2015-hugo-slate/ Best Dramatic Presentation (Long Form) “The Lego Movie” – Phil Lord, Christopher Miller “Guardians of the Galaxy” – James Gunn “Interstellar” – Christopher Nolan “The Maze Runner” – Wes Ball hahaha holy poo poo
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corn in the bible posted:Best Dramatic Presentation (Long Form) Four of them made it onto the ballot.
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fritz posted:Four of them made it onto the ballot. i want to live in a world where the maze runner somehow gets a hugo award and people have to live with that
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