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Hollismason posted:
Of course the problem there is group homes are even less regulated (or in the case of Virginia effectively not regulated at all). Nursing homes at least operate under the auspices of an ombudsman's office and tend to get semi-regular visits from social workers, worthless as that may be.
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William Bear posted:http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...-of-christians/ Well most Republicans are protestant so they really aren't going to give a poo poo about what the Pope says barring the rare times he's politically convenient.
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My Imaginary GF posted:
Wow, I love it when when limousine liberals talk like this. (not that MIGF can afford a limousine) As if the policies and benefits labor wrestled out of them were beneficent gifts, given freely and with a Christlike heart, and most properly received with grateful, wet eyes. It's no surprise working-class whites vote to throw those very benefits on the ground, out of spite.
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the two parties are like, the same, man. why even vote?
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My Imaginary GF posted:
Democrats are awful corporate sellouts just like the Republicans. They just happen to have sold out to a different set of businesses who's interests sometimes overlap with ours. For example, I don't think all this talk about raising the min wage was caused by the Democrats being a friend to the working man. It's just sound business policy that will benefit any business who's consumer base is impacted by their customer's paycheck size. Republicans, on the other hand, are against this because the businesses they represent are more entrenched and make money regardless of how much people make (oil/chemical/tobacco companies). JonathonSpectre posted:God, this is one of the most infuriating things in the loving world. I have a libertarian buddy I've argued this with 100 times. A couple of years ago he went to an Objectivist conference where he heard the president of a moderately big bank speak. The dude straight said, "We realized that many of these loans were unsustainable and would eventually collapse, but based on the volume of them we were doing we also understood the federal government would have to take action and so our risk was non-existent, at which point we stepped up our activities in this sector." This, to him, is evidence that he is right. Below is a condensed version of his side of every argument. See also: The "millenials are lazy and entitled" meme.
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:"Hey, you know who is responsible for crashing the global economy? Poor people. You know, the people with no wealth or political power whatsoever? What's that? Mountains of evidence of straight-up criminality on the part of lenders? Me hearing directly from the horse's mouth that bailout money was the goal all along and even the top guy knew that was the plan? NAH NAH NAH NAH NAH I CAN'T HEAR YOU IT WAS THE POOR PEOPLE!!!"
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Axetrain posted:Well most Republicans are protestant so they really aren't going to give a poo poo about what the Pope says barring the rare times he's politically convenient. American Catholics are a lot more conservative than their European counterparts, more similar to Evangelicals than them in ways. Francis is making a lot of right wing rear end in a top hat Catholics furious I think
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Apr 5, 2015 19:39
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icantfindaname posted:American Catholics are a lot more conservative than their European counterparts, more similar to Evangelicals than them in ways. Francis is making a lot of right wing rear end in a top hat Catholics furious I think White Catholics may lean to the right, but in comparison to Evangelicals they are moderate, most I know actually lean left on issues not relating to abortion, and Hispanic Catholics are pretty solidly democrats.
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SedanChair posted:Wow, I love it when when limousine liberals talk like this. (not that MIGF can afford a limousine) As if the policies and benefits labor wrestled out of them were beneficent gifts, given freely and with a Christlike heart, and most properly received with grateful, wet eyes. It's no surprise working-class whites vote to throw those very benefits on the ground, out of spite. People who agree with me politically are smart, good, and even handsome. On the other hand, people who disagree with me politically sound like they're making fart noises every time they talk, they are fat, and usually play Xbox One.
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The Governator takes on the Indiana discrimination law and his own party's bigotry. (I like how the thing he thinks they should be focused on are things that they deny even exist, or adamantly oppose doing anything about them.
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Meg From Family Guy posted:People who agree with me politically are smart, good, and even handsome. On the other hand, people who disagree with me politically sound like they're making fart noises every time they talk, they are fat, and usually play Xbox One. 
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Dr.Zeppelin posted:You're forgetting the talking point where those banks were only giving out bad loans because Jimmy Carter forced them to. Haha no but he did talk about Clinton pushing for everyone to get house being part of the problem. The bizarre thing was, he actually had great policies for his customers he was just completely ridiculous when it came to the financial crisis.
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This is anecdotal but Catholicism in the US seems to adapt to depending on the region. I know people from plains states and the south who have horror stories about their parish being focused on abortion and Republican politics. Meanwhile churches in the rust belt and northeast seem more focused on social issues like poverty, often without bringing in politics. The theology and overall rules are the same, but what's highlighted shifts. Then there are cool groups like the Nuns on a Bus who really emphasize the social justice and political aspect.
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Family Values posted:The Governator takes on the Indiana discrimination law and his own party's bigotry. Yeah I read that and was like "Arnie what about the Republican party makes you think they give a gently caress about clean air or repairing infrastructure", although from what I understand he might as well just be a center right Democrat anyway.
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Axetrain posted:although from what I understand he might as well just be a center right Democrat anyway. He pretty much is.
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Atrocious Joe posted:This is anecdotal but Catholicism in the US seems to adapt to depending on the region. I know people from plains states and the south who have horror stories about their parish being focused on abortion and Republican politics. Meanwhile churches in the rust belt and northeast seem more focused on social issues like poverty, often without bringing in politics. The theology and overall rules are the same, but what's highlighted shifts. Based on this poll, 31% of (white) Catholics seem to identify as Republicans vs 29% Democratic and 37% Independent. I guess they make up a big chunk of the remaining moderate Republicans of legend icantfindaname fucked around with this message at 20:12 on Apr 5, 2015 |
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icantfindaname posted:Based on this poll, 58% of Catholics seem to identify as Republicans. I guess they make up a big chunk of the remaining moderate Republicans of legend No, it doesn't. As of 2012, 26% repub, 35% dem, 35% ind.
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Axetrain posted:Yeah I read that and was like "Arnie what about the Republican party makes you think they give a gently caress about clean air or repairing infrastructure", although from what I understand he might as well just be a center right Democrat anyway. I can't imagine deciding to be a Republican because of Nixon, and not intensely questioning that decision as Nixon's presidency ended. Also, what Austrian politician did Humphrey remind him of? 
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I think I remember reading that a good chunk of Louisiana Catholics are registered Democratic, but haven't voted Democratic since Clinton.
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Yeah I mean when an op-ed begins with "my first foray into politics was proudly choosing Nixon and I'm not going to mention any regret for that" the rest can probably be ignored.
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This is mildly anecdotal , but at a recent social organization and social change work shop I was attending the majority >50% were Enviromental Religious groups. Specifically Lutheran and Catholic groups. I don't know what that says about the Catholic fundamentalism, but there's some clear divisiveness when it comes to all of the talking points of the Religious Right.
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Apr 5, 2015 20:33
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Research shows: the Obamas getting a dog did not change voting habits.
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Joementum posted:Research shows: the Obamas getting a dog did not change voting habits. Bo is no Checkers.
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ThirdPartyView posted:Bo is no Checkers. Bo* is a bad dog. Bo likes to get up on the table and knock cereal onto the floor and eat it when no one is looking. Based on my experiences, I cannot recommend a vote for Barack Obama, because he owns a dog named Bo. * My dog's name; not named for Bo Obama.
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ComradeCosmobot posted:Bo* is a bad dog. Bo likes to get up on the table and knock cereal onto the floor and eat it when no one is looking. Based on my experiences, I cannot recommend a vote for Barack Obama, because he owns a dog named Bo. I happen to know this Bo personally. Bo has a tenacious personality and will not run away from a fight if another party tries to start one. Based on my experiences, I can recommend a vote for Barack Obama, because he owns a dog named Bo.
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Bo confuses the right because he is a black Obama that is Portuguese, not Kenyan, confusing their entire belief system. Bad bo, wheres the birth certificate.
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Still totally legal to carry a working firearm on school property in Tennessee, but please no toy guns or swords. This is a clear violation of the second amendment rights of Highlanders, sighing Reagans, and Renfaire enthusiasts!
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Joementum posted:Still totally legal to carry a working firearm on school property in Tennessee, but please no toy guns or swords. The wording is vague enough that I bet that would be a legitimate challenge in court.
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Joementum posted:Research shows: the Obamas getting a dog did not change voting habits.
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Joementum posted:Still totally legal to carry a working firearm on school property in Tennessee, but please no toy guns or swords. What if it is one of those kits that make a .22 rifle look all tactical? That should be a "hoax gun."
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Joementum posted:Still totally legal to carry a working firearm on school property in Tennessee, but please no toy guns or swords. This fuckin' country.
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Joementum posted:Research shows: the Obamas getting a dog did not change voting habits.
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Meg From Family Guy posted:People who agree with me politically are smart, good, and even handsome. On the other hand, people who disagree with me politically sound like they're making fart noises every time they talk, they are fat, and usually play Xbox One. Tea party republicans are ISIS in America and the sooner the lot of them disappear the better for the human race. Shut up meg.
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Joementum posted:Still totally legal to carry a working firearm on school property in Tennessee, but please no toy guns or swords.
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icantfindaname posted:American Catholics are a lot more conservative than their European counterparts, more similar to Evangelicals than them in ways. Francis is making a lot of right wing rear end in a top hat Catholics furious I think America, in general, is a more comservative nation than the European continent. Its for our own good. Conservatism isn't incorrect from an ideological basis, conservative policies haven't been implemented in America since Bush I.
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SedanChair posted:Wow, I love it when when limousine liberals talk like this. (not that MIGF can afford a limousine) As if the policies and benefits labor wrestled out of them were beneficent gifts, given freely and with a Christlike heart, and most properly received with grateful, wet eyes. It's no surprise working-class whites vote to throw those very benefits on the ground, out of spite. Well he's basically right when he says "Relative to the only other options in America, Democratic party is a veritable hand-out to the poor." The Democrats don't really give a poo poo about the poor, sure, but the Republicans actively despise them.
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Joementum posted:Congressman Huelskamp is mad about bullet bans. So mad that he's gonna ban the bullet ban... with bullets! BACK DOOR BULL BANS
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I can't loving believe we live in a world where Tom Friedman(!) gets to do an interview with Obama(!!) on the Iran deal(!!!).
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ufarn posted:I can't loving believe we live in a world where Tom Friedman(!) gets to do an interview with Obama(!!) on the Iran deal(!!!). If Obama works a 'the next six months will be critical' into it I'll bump his presidential ranking above Lincoln.
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Raskolnikov38 posted:If Obama works a 'the next six months will be critical' into it I'll bump his presidential ranking above Lincoln. "The doctrine of the United States cannot simply be, 'suck on this'." ~ Barack Obama, hopefully.
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