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SuperMechagodzilla posted:Skyline is like an Asylum/SyFy original movie that actually delivers the goods. Also, check out what's on VH1 right now: 
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The best thing about skyline was it didnt have as much hype and was thus less disappointing than Battle:LA
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Apr 6, 2015 05:03
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Rageaholic Monkey posted:Also, check out what's on VH1 right now: B*A*P*S is awful, but it's no Marci X. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NI5_51pLv8E
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Apr 6, 2015 05:07
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Is The Warriors a perfect movie? I'm going to go ahead and say that it is.
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Apr 6, 2015 05:17
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Nah. Edit: After all the hype it gets, there are things I liked about Warriors, but not enough to outweigh how listless and dull it was overall.
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Apr 6, 2015 05:19
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First: Then: 
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Apr 6, 2015 05:20
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Lol, death of the author isn't about "the interpreter being privileged over the author", it's about letting a work speak for itself.
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Apr 6, 2015 05:21
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That is some stupid poo poo.
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Apr 6, 2015 05:26
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Anonymous Robot posted:Haha, I think we may have seen the same episode, though it was an Irish hustler, and the deal was that he had actually killed the guy whose crimes they were pinning on him, but was keeping it secret so nobody would collect the bounty before he'd be able to. There was another episode about the spirit of the samurai and one where a dandy cowboy enacts land redistribution and persecutes unlawful wage differentials. I'd love some episode titles/numbers on these, as it seems youtube has quite a few episodes.
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Apr 6, 2015 06:02
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Maarak posted:I'd love some episode titles/numbers on these, as it seems youtube has quite a few episodes. Episode 156: Incident at Line Shack Six Episode 157: Suspicion Episode 159: The Sixteenth Cousin
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Apr 6, 2015 06:06
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Watched a weird film dir. Kathryn Bigelow called Strange Days on Netflix. Wasn't sure at all what I was expecting, but it's like a weird Sci-Fi / Noir preemptive murder / murder mystery with police corruption and serial killer plotlines. It's really weird, and pretty great. Rather than drugs, people are reliving memories recorded to MiniDisc so we get some really effectively disturbing found footage memories. It stars a slightly foppish Ralph Fiennes and badass Angela Bassett in an increasingly militaristic police state just before Y2K where all cars are on fire and cops are constantly arresting / abusing black people in the background of all scenes that take place outside because two police officers just randomly murdered this really bad rapper version of Malcolm X. Liked it alot.
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Apr 6, 2015 06:18
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Strange Days loving owns. Neck and neck with Point Break for my favorite Bigelow movie. (I shamefully have not seen Near Dark.)
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Apr 6, 2015 06:21
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Anonymous Robot posted:Lol, death of the author isn't about "the interpreter being privileged over the author", it's about letting a work speak for itself. Obviously not - but when nerds complain about "death of the author", they are not talking about Barthes at all. The phrase, in this instance, refers to the perception that their authority is in decline. Recall the nerd furor over the phrase "gamers are dead". It's the same deal. This is why CD posters seem to spontaneously complain about 'death of the author' at random intervals. It's not because they love biographical criticism, and want to tell us how Alan Taylor's childhood may have influenced Thor 2. It's because of fear.
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Apr 6, 2015 06:25
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Now listening to: Gorillaz - "Every Author We Read Is Dead"
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Apr 6, 2015 06:27
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I wasn't hot on The Warriors. I loved the game and finally saw the film three years ago. It was alright. It is pretty dull given the premise, and I'd love to see a gonzo remake of it that capitalizes on the silliness. Of course Hollywood would remake it as gritty and "realistic".
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Apr 6, 2015 07:13
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I appreciate how relatively grounded and understated the film is. Going in with expectations based on the premise is obviously going to leave you disappointed due to how just about every single anime and video game about fighting took the premise of the film and cranked it up to 11. It is a perfect movie and I would really hate to see the Sucker Punch Fight Scene version of it.
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Apr 6, 2015 07:39
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This sudden rejection of The Warriors is bad and also, wrong
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Apr 6, 2015 07:40
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People sure hate individual interpretations.
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Apr 6, 2015 07:58
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CPL593H posted:People sure hate individual interpretations. Are you talking about "death of the author" or Hat Thoughts posted:This sudden rejection of The Warriors is bad and also, wrong Because if it's the first, yeah that's annoying and weird, but in the second case The Warriors is loving baller and anyone who doesn't like it is a buster.
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Apr 6, 2015 08:03
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Skwirl posted:Are you talking about "death of the author" or Death of the author. The Warriors is fantastic and anyone who disagrees can suck it.
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Apr 6, 2015 08:20
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Has anyone here watched the new spongebob movie?
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Apr 6, 2015 08:35
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CPL593H posted:Death of the author. The Warriors is fantastic and anyone who disagrees can suck it. And anyone who agrees can suck it too! 
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Apr 6, 2015 08:47
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CPL593H posted:Death of the author. The Warriors is fantastic and anyone who disagrees can suck it. My favorite thing about the internet is how upset people get when they don't understand a term of art.
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Apr 6, 2015 08:50
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Skwirl posted:My favorite thing about the internet is how upset people get when they don't understand a term of art. Remember how insanely mad people got over "gamers are dead"?
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Apr 6, 2015 08:52
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Lurdiak posted:Remember how insanely mad people got over "gamers are dead"? Is "gamers are dead" similar to "Hip Hop is Dead" from like 2006, or is it like "Death of Autotune" from 2009?
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Apr 6, 2015 09:01
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Skywalker OG posted:Is "gamers are dead" similar to "Hip Hop is Dead" from like 2006, or is it like "Death of Autotune" from 2009? It was more like "hey, the idea of gamers being an insular subculture separate from the mainstream is dead, cuz everyone's a gamer now :^)" and people got maaaaaad.
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Apr 6, 2015 09:11
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Why is it that "gamers" want to be treated like any other artform/culture/whatever but totally buck against the idea of evolution or reinterpretation? Is this just a particularly vocal group, or a particularly stubborn one? Were gamers grumbling when home gaming systems were invented because now anyone could play it instead of those dedicated enough to go to an arcade?
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Apr 6, 2015 09:17
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Furious Seven and It Follows make for a very strange double feature.
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Apr 6, 2015 09:35
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I can't even comprehend gamer sub culture. The people who are vocal about it subscribe to a shibboleth so narrow that their clone might fail the test because they got the wrong random drop on a game and thus don't truly understand. Also they're all racist and sexist and homophobic.
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Apr 6, 2015 09:45
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Double post: speaking of games, the advantage of playing Assassin's Creed 4 several years after it came out is realizing that your playing as Pirate John Constantine.
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Apr 6, 2015 09:48
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The only game I play (on my mac laptop) is Civ V. I'm now getting bored of it, after much play. What else of that ilk should I try?
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Apr 6, 2015 10:27
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therattle posted:The only game I play (on my mac laptop) is Civ V. I'm now getting bored of it, after much play. What else of that ilk should I try? Crusader Kings 2.
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Apr 6, 2015 10:32
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Cities: Skyline.
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Apr 6, 2015 10:34
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Madworld.
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Apr 6, 2015 10:43
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I'm super mixed on death of the author. On one hand, I find a director's inspiration, take on the themes, how they did that, why they chose this shot, to be one of the most interesting things about movies. I love it. I love to learn that way. But the downside is something like Whiplash, where I watch the movie and see it clearly one way, but the director intended it to be the total opposite, and if I took that as fact it ruins the film.
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Apr 6, 2015 11:02
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I don't think "death of the author" means you have to disregard the author's intentions. I always took it to mean that the author just doesn't have the final say about what a work means. Once its out there, it's out there and not just an extension of the creator anymore. I don't think you have to stop caring about a director's take, just realize that their interpretation isn't the one "true" one, and that having a different opinion doesn't make it wrong. Also, has anyone here seen The Salvation or Kumiko, the Treasure Hunter? I recall some talk about the second one but I haven't heard much about the first. The theater I volunteer at is playing them soon and they both looked pretty cool. I have so many free passes from them but barely ever go see what they're playing because I'm so lazy.
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Apr 6, 2015 11:12
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The point of Death of the Author is primarily to be used as an academic tool. If you take an author entirely out of the work, what does the work say by itself? How does that relate to how people who don't know the context of the author's ideas receive that work? Can the work be recontextualized if you ignore when and why it was created? Etc. It's not meant to be an either-or situation where you think about the author when absorbing a work or not. It's just like how it's not smart to try to interpret everything in every movie as political allegory, but it can be useful to do so occasionally.
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Apr 6, 2015 11:24
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LesterGroans posted:Why is it that "gamers" want to be treated like any other artform/culture/whatever but totally buck against the idea of evolution or reinterpretation? Is this just a particularly vocal group, or a particularly stubborn one? Were gamers grumbling when home gaming systems were invented because now anyone could play it instead of those dedicated enough to go to an arcade? They don't want games to be respected because they understand their artistic merit and care about that. They want games to be respected because they are emotionally invested in them, and want their identity as "gamers" to come with status, respect, and a sort of curatorial authority.
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Apr 6, 2015 11:27
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therattle posted:The only game I play (on my mac laptop) is Civ V. I'm now getting bored of it, after much play. What else of that ilk should I try? If you're looking for another 4X-type thing, check out Endless Legend. It's a really solid game with a neat setting and I think the general consensus is that it's way better than Beyond Earth.
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People should read the Barthes essay. It's not long or especially difficult, and it's a very useful concept to understand if you're going to talk about fiction, or communication of any kind really. It's not about whether or when it's appropriate to defer ultimate meaning to the author, it's about how it's impossible to trace a line from the experience of reading and interpreting language back to the passage's original creator in any legitimate way.
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