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scroton_ posted:It's par the course for a White Brazilian like Sgt. Mark IV; having lived in South Florida for much of my life and met several in that time I can attest that White Brazilians are all colonialist garbage and literally the most racist people on the entire planet. The state of classism and ethnic division in Brazil is basically Apartheid and Caste system rolled into one. All White Brazilians need to be lined up in front a ditch and shot. I don't know what to take seriously
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MONKET posted:Women can't handle Doom. The blood and gore is too much for their weak, berrypicking gatherer minds to comprehend. Men were evolved to be hunters and so we find thrill in running 40mph towards our prey with rocket launchers, which are in fact nothing more than explosive bows and arrows. It's biology, look it up. Back to the MRA/PUA cesspit with you.
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Al Cu Ad Solte posted:Uh, anyway, any other Wolfenstein 3D TC recommendations? I'm looking for ones with a more...robust, I suppose, experience than vanilla Wolf. I really enjoyed the poo poo out of Spear: End of the Destiny. It had neat extra things like switches manipulating pushwalls, medkits in your inventory, backpacks that increase your ammo capacity, stuff like that. Have you played any of my ECWolf stuff? 
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Nintendo Kid posted:The story of one Arch-Vile trying to find love and maybe resurrect a few friendships.  
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I normally consider myself sympathetic to the "SJW" side of things but this is getting ridiculous and we should take a chill pill. Also on the subject of extensive Wolf 3D TCs: http://www.moddb.com/mods/trench-warfare
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LvK posted:Oh, that's okay then! Do I still get credits for beating the side missions even though I've beaten them earlier, because I'm a sucker for romping around seaside murderfests and metro areas in Duke3d. I'm pretty sure you just get credits for kills in general, so go for it.
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scroton_ posted:Wow, unsubstantiated evo psych mumbo. No. I will forever mod Doom with a manic grin on my face, hunched over and stewing in my testosterone-laden fluids, ensuring that no women or minorities dare enter my community, my domain, my castle of demon armageddon and gib's, a haven of violent overpowering men forever. And you can never be rid of me for I am the (G)Zdoom modder of your nightmares, beholder of a billion tortured minorities, the goat with a thousand young: A cis white male.
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Elliotw2 posted:I'm pretty sure you just get credits for kills in general, so go for it. HEAD FOR DE HILLS BECAUSE I'm READY TO KILL!!! I mean cool! Will probably start again soonish.
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also I like how Duke3d had such a goddamn comprehensive set of assets for restrooms and bathrooms that every single user map, ever, has to have a lovingly-detailed shitter.
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LvK posted:also I like how Duke3d had such a goddamn comprehensive set of assets for restrooms and bathrooms that every single user map, ever, has to have a lovingly-detailed shitter. Bathrooms are the most important part of Duke 3D so adding them into a map is essential. Hell, even Duke3D itself has an elaborablty-detailed (for 1996) bathroom in E2L7, complete with a huge mirror and many standing toilets. You can't forget E3L7's destroyed bathroom as far as details go too.
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You can really tell that Duke 3D is the next link the FPS evolutionary chain by comparing the quality of its assets specifically intended for "bathroom creation" to the quality (or distinct lack thereof) of Doom's assets for creating bathrooms. Conservatively speaking, I'd wager that 99 out of 100 toilets built in Doom maps are embarrassments to their creators. Here's a toilet that's six feet wide. Here's a toilet seat at eye-level. Here's a toilet that might as well be a small swimming pool. Now compare that to Duke 3D: What's one of the first things you see when you start up the game? Boom. A public bathroom with sinks, mirrors, stalls, and the suggestion of an alien taking a poo poo. You younger idiots may not understand this, but back in the dark ages of 1996, we'd hurry home from school just so we could spend hours, basking in the glow of a CRT monitor as we wandered around bathrooms and pool halls in Duke 3D, marveling at how real games had become.
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Woolie Wool posted:Have you played any of my ECWolf stuff? Yes! Coffee Break was pretty good although the more modern sounding sfx for the rifle threw me for a loop. You wanna hurry up with Operation Serpent???  I just beat the demo of ECWolf, which was really great, but man Return to Totenhaus' level design is just not for me. Are you the same dude who made Spear Revisited or am I thinking of someone else? I remember reading someone was going to port that to ECWolf and then it never happened. Unfortunately I can't seem to get Trench Warfare (or any non SDL Wolf thing) running smoothly under Dosbox.
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scroton_ posted:Name a single female or non-whiteguy or non-hispanicguy (G)ZDoom modder.
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Cream-of-Plenty posted:You can really tell that Duke 3D is the next link the FPS evolutionary chain by comparing the quality of its assets specifically intended for "bathroom creation" to the quality (or distinct lack thereof) of Doom's assets for creating bathrooms. Conservatively speaking, I'd wager that 99 out of 100 toilets built in Doom maps are embarrassments to their creators. Here's a toilet that's six feet wide. Here's a toilet seat at eye-level. Here's a toilet that might as well be a small swimming pool. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=748FIR_qs7I
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Al Cu Ad Solte posted:Unfortunately I can't seem to get Trench Warfare (or any non SDL Wolf thing) running smoothly under Dosbox. Yeah, it's weird... DOSBox has always had issues running certain Wolf3D mods. I'm not exactly sure why that would be the case, since they definitely work fine in real DOS and most of the pure DOS mods don't do anything too completely outlandish simply because of memory restrictions.
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MONKET posted:IIRC There actually was someone making a Dangan Ronpa-style dialogue mod and in his test video there was a delightfully awkward romantic love-confessing conversation between the doomguy and a programmer schoolgirl. IIRC Terminus has a couple mockups of this sort of thing for the various powerups in Demonsteele. I hope they get added some day. *FLIRTY GUN NOISES*
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LvK posted:I'll see if I can reproduce them later. Iiiii kinda stopped playing when I stopped being able to pull up the PDA no matter what key I assigned it to, no matter which save (of the two I ever keep during a playthrough) I loaded. Probably had to do something with cheating through broken doors. quote:Also I was kind of surprised how the Russian guy's voice grew on me. All of the voice acting sucks in this really charming, mega-amateur, tons-of-effort way that I can't be mad at but that guy was just kinda... special.  ChineseTonyDanza did some voices for the TC though and you can tell because they're insanely high quality compared to the rest. He did Grave's voice as well as some later enemies. Marty Kirra of the doom community also did some amazing voices for a villain later in the episode as well.quote:Oh, that's okay then! Do I still get credits for beating the side missions even though I've beaten them earlier, because I'm a sucker for romping around seaside murderfests and metro areas in Duke3d.
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Alain Post posted:In fairness the GZDoom forums are extremely bad. Behold, horror: http://forum.drdteam.org/viewforum.php?f=22
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scroton_ posted:Wow, unsubstantiated evo psych mumbo. Whose alt are you? Nobody sane has an alt account they use solely to troll the Early FPS thread. Tiny Timbs fucked around with this message at 14:16 on Apr 6, 2015 |
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scroton_ posted:I can handle the responses, I'm just suggesting that rather than reacting with bile and anger at someone pointing out a legitimate issue that maybe they should spend some time in self-reflection and think of ways to address that problem. Listen and believe. They say I'm insane, but I'm not going around insulting the Doom community for being what it is. Blame the people not in the group for not making enough of an effort to be in the group. I seriously doubt that the tools and knowledge are being hidden from minorities just because the Doom community (allegedly) hates them. I mean, most of this stuff is well documented, and, well, anyone can jump in if they want to. Of course, if what you are really trying to say is that you think it is too difficult for minorities and women to program for (g)zdoom, then maybe you should consider taking the code for zdoom and create a fork with severely dumbed down code for modders. (The real "problem" may be that some people just have no interest in making maps or mods for Doom, just as I have no interest in trying to build a cold fusion reactor.) On an unrelated note, I really do hope Sgt Mark IV releases Brutal Doom on schedule this time. (And on a vaguely related note to that, I don't think Sgt Mark IV was the one that put a dark skinned chaingunner in Doom II. So who is more racist, Sgt Mark IV for making a racist comment about a Doom II enemy, or Id Software for giving you the ability to simulate murdering black people in the first place? Chicken and/or the egg, fo sheezy.) Cat Mattress posted:Behold, horror: http://forum.drdteam.org/viewforum.php?f=22 It's like Stormfront for GZDoom. Woolie Wool posted:
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Jakcson posted:I'm not entirely sure why they don't have separate builds for Plutonia/Evilution if the graphics are there but not really compatible with FreeDoom Phase 2/Doom II. That'd mean having 64 additional placeholder levels... Freedoom is supposed to be compatible with Doom II, TNT, and Plutonia mods. Freedoom's levels themselves can use whatever textures are available, including the Final Doomish ones.
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Cat Mattress posted:That'd mean having 64 additional placeholder levels... Well, yes, but even doom2.wad isn't entirely compatible with TNT and Plutonia textures. The thing that bugs me is the walls that have shifting textures that look like hot garbage. (It's not really Freedoom's fault, but it's one of those things that I'm not sure they can easily fix.)
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Are TNT and Plutonia any good? I remember them being pretty hard and gimmicky, but overall not that bad.
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daft punk railroad posted:Plutonia is good, but hard, and the maps have a very well-developed style but are visually kind of samey. TNT is basically indistinguishable from every other mediocre 1996 megawad out there The Aliens TC was better.
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uncleKitchener posted:Are TNT and Plutonia any good? I remember them being pretty hard and gimmicky, but overall not that bad. I just finished Plutonia. It has good parts but it's really gimmicky in a lot of places like you said. A lot of the levels play like they just placed revenants at random, added some keys and called it a day. I'd be hard pressed to recommend anything except MAP11. Beyond that, all you really get out of it is saying "Yay I beat Plutonia!" There are some pretty bad errors in Plutonia as well. Like Odyssey of Noises is really keyed backwards, and would be much better if it went yellow blue red with the current placements. TNT was okay but not great. It has some fun levels though, like Wormhole. I'm glad I played both, but I'll likely never touch them again.
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Al Cu Ad Solte posted:Yes! Coffee Break was pretty good although the more modern sounding sfx for the rifle threw me for a loop. You wanna hurry up with Operation Serpent??? Operation Serpent is being held back by the music, not much I can do but yell at Shane Strife to work faster. Please have patience.  What did you dislike about Totenhaus? I was aping the style of Laz Rojas, and I did as much as I could to make the level design less repetitive while still recognizable as an homage to the original. As for Spear Revisited I did make it and I uh forgot to finish testing the ECWolf port. 
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PINING 4 PORKINS posted:Whose alt are you? Nobody sane has an alt account they use solely to troll the Early FPS thread. He's the Samsara ACS coder.
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Woolie Wool posted:He's the Samsara ACS coder. And a brogrammer pissbaby by his own admission. Interesting...
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Alain Post posted:We all hate ZDoom. I hate women more than I hate ZDoom.
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Arivia posted:I just finished Plutonia. It has good parts but it's really gimmicky in a lot of places like you said. A lot of the levels play like they just placed revenants at random, added some keys and called it a day. I'd be hard pressed to recommend anything except MAP11. Beyond that, all you really get out of it is saying "Yay I beat Plutonia!" Actually, I remember playing Wormhole couple years back. The descending staircase and the posted shotgunners on what looked like checkpoints was a cool concept for a Doom level. I might give both a try but I remember TNT having annoying enemy placements and some symmetric and confusing levels. Which level was the one solely/the majority populated with pain elementals? I remember a level like that some time ago, but I'm not sure if I'm remembering it correctly or not.
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TerminusEst13 posted:He is?  Seriously can we PLEASE stop this asinine bullshit and get back to talking about the relative merits of dn3d vs doom level design, or if Blood will ever get usable mouse look?
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