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Illness in the Ranks just destroys the deck too, right?
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i mean it hoses the combo but the point of thoptersword was that it was a combo you could put into a tezzeret-based artifact control deck that both shut down aggro and worked as a decent win condition if you were running thoptersword in a tezzeret u/b or esper shell you'd just cut the combo for another win con in that slot if someone went after the combo w/ enough sb slots.
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Apr 6, 2015 21:49
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The hoodies aren't that bad except for the pro tour thing on the back.
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Apr 6, 2015 21:50
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Zoness posted:i mean it hoses the combo but the point of thoptersword was that it was a combo you could put into a tezzeret-based artifact control deck that both shut down aggro and worked as a decent win condition Y'know what unban it because if nothing else I want Tezzeret to be a good card
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Apr 6, 2015 21:52
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Drafting DTK is 20 bucks on MTGO? It's usually 15 or so at my various local game stores. Or am I doing this wrong? Taking my RDW list to another LGS tourney tonight. I've been siding out the wild slashes for Eidolons against control decks, and then I end up liking them and don't have any idea where to put the Citadel Sieges. The lightning berzerkers? This list isn't exact to what I have because I added a mountain at the last second last time and took out 1 berserker, I believe. But in my play against roommates the extra mountain came out way too much so probably go back down to 20 with 1 in the sideboard? Take out 1 zurgo and the 4 zerkers for the sieges and the wild slashes for the Eidolons? Sideboarding is hard. I do still want one or two of those creature +2/+2 temples and maybe go G/R with Atarka's Command? But then I have to buy a lot more land. 20 Spells 4 Hordeling Outburst 4 Lightning Strike 4 Stoke the Flames 4 Wild Slash 4 Dragon Fodder 20 Creatures 4 Monastery Swiftspear 4 Foundry Street Denizen 4 Lightning Berserker 3 Goblin Heelcutter 2 Goblin Rabblemaster 3 Zurgo Bellstriker Sideboard: 4 Roast 1 Mountain 4 Outpost Siege 2 Twin Bolt 4 Eidolon of the Great Revel
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Apr 6, 2015 21:57
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After doing tons of testing with it, Lightning Berserker is an absolute loving house against control so I wouldn't tear it out. Dash means they always have to 1-for-1 and that's pretty attractive when most control decks basically just try to live to 5/6 when they can start getting value out of sweepers. Dump Heelcutters to the board against control, it's not like you're using them there anyways.
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Apr 6, 2015 22:33
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Mikujin posted:After doing tons of testing with it, Lightning Berserker is an absolute loving house against control so I wouldn't tear it out. Dash means they always have to 1-for-1 and that's pretty attractive when most control decks basically just try to live to 5/6 when they can start getting value out of sweepers. I love when aggro decks dash things: they don't have persistent threats sure but it gives me a free chance every turn to counter them as w/u control.
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Apr 6, 2015 22:38
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Dohaeris posted:Drafting DTK is 20 bucks on MTGO? It's usually 15 or so at my various local game stores. Or am I doing this wrong? Let's round up and say that boosters are about 3.75 each from bots, + two tickets that's $13.25.
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Apr 6, 2015 22:39
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am I the only one freaking out about the picture of the dragon destroying Brussels this makes me sad
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dragon enthusiast posted:am I the only one freaking out about the picture of the dragon destroying Brussels this makes me sad I thought it owned pretty hard and hope they do it for more stuff.
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Apr 6, 2015 23:44
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Dohaeris posted:Drafting DTK is 20 bucks on MTGO? It's usually 15 or so at my various local game stores. Or am I doing this wrong? Drafting DTK is 15 if you buy all of it from the store. Drafts aren't typically nearly that much if you buy it from bots, but since DTK came out like 5 minutes ago, its only like 2 bucks cheaper, but it will get cheaper and cheaper. Packs of KTK are under 2 tix so drafting that format got cheap as gently caress pretty quick. This set has practically no money in it and is the main payout of events. Angry Grimace fucked around with this message at 00:47 on Apr 7, 2015 |
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Apr 7, 2015 00:35
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Skyl3lazer posted:I love when aggro decks dash things: they don't have persistent threats sure but it gives me a free chance every turn to counter them as w/u control. You don't just dash all the time. I'll run out my first few plays, but if we're getting close to 5 lands up and you haven't played anything with U/W/x lands, I'm not committing a dude to the board to get got (especially since they don't natively have haste) when you're likely holding up a sweeper. Dash is a great, flexible way of turning your early beaters into burn spells against control, forcing them to counter your Lightning Berserker or Mardu Scout instead of Strike and Stokes, and what have you.
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Apr 7, 2015 01:45
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Sword is banned because Wizards doesnt want to waste anyones time with yet another deck that auto loses to Trickbind, one of the most oppressive cards in all of the eternal formats
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 Variance is a loving rear end in a top hat. Also I won this game - my opponent chumped my 4/4 with 3 creatures for no apparent reason in three turns while they were at 14, 14, and 10, and then drew green but I finally drew a spell. Thanks for throwing the game against an opponent on 4 spells 12 lands MTGO dude!
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rabidsquid posted:Sword is banned because Wizards doesnt want to waste anyones time with yet another deck that auto loses to Trickbind, one of the most oppressive cards in all of the eternal formats Wait what? Trickbind barely sees play.
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Errant Gin Monks posted:Wait what? Trickbind barely sees play. 
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Errant Gin Monks posted:Wait what? Trickbind barely sees play. whoosh
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Errant Gin Monks posted:Wait what? Trickbind barely sees play. Huh. That's a good point.
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TheKingofSprings posted:whoosh Yeah sorry wasn't really paying attention. Just read that and a mcmagic response bubbled up.
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Blegh, went 4-1 with my rdw. Sideboardwent well! The last match, which I lost, I got totally mana screwed both games. One mountain the entire first game until he had two pws played and gave up. Next game couldn't draw anything I needed and had to mulligan to 5. Got to the point where I could win but couldn't get a single creature to stick or draw a mountain to Stoke for the last 4. Think I would have won both if my deck hadn't poo poo itself. A lot of board wipe token hate. Need to get that temple or whatever to buff then up for sideboard I think. Still can't figure out outpost siege. Sided it in a few times but never drew it once. Also, won 4 boosters. Can't take them to a store and draft with them apparently, so just open 'em? Dohaeris fucked around with this message at 05:57 on Apr 7, 2015 |
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Apr 7, 2015 05:46
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Hey guys. I posted a version of that stupid thread idea I had. Come and have a laugh.
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Yo, what are burn's actually bad m/u's right now in modern?
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Apr 7, 2015 07:14
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TheKingofSprings posted:Yo, what are burn's actually bad m/u's right now in modern? Really, itself. Sometimes variance gets it.
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Apr 7, 2015 07:23
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mehall posted:Soul Sisters maybe? I should qualify that with "bad matchups that aren't total poo poo literally anywhere else" I guess
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Apr 7, 2015 07:26
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TheKingofSprings posted:Yo, what are burn's actually bad m/u's right now in modern? Any deck with three or 4 Leyline of sanctity.
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TheKingofSprings posted:Yo, what are burn's actually bad m/u's right now in modern? Bogle I guess, not much Burn can do against it game 1, and the sideboard answers are quite weak. Then again, Bogle has serious metagame problems right now so you probably won't see it.
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Apr 7, 2015 07:36
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Infect can sometimes get surprise wins on burn in my experience.
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Herr Tog posted:Hey guys. I posted a version of that stupid thread idea I had. Come and have a laugh. oh here is a link to my stupid experiment http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3711767
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TheKingofSprings posted:I should qualify that with "bad matchups that aren't total poo poo literally anywhere else" I guess It's not bad against twin and is maybe 40/60 over the match for Abzan. Underdog, but not terrible. But yeah, the fact that that's the deck I name kinda points out how good Burn is placed just now.
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Apr 7, 2015 10:14
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Burn in Modern kind of reminds me of a less extreme version Dredge in Legacy; it's an extremely efficient and powerful linear deck that attacks along a different axis than most decks in the format and as such has a very good game 1 against the majority of decks in the format, but with the right sideboard cards you can beat it. How's Burn's matchup against Amulet, by the way? I feel like that one should be favored for Amulet since they get to start at 20 instead of 15 and have a very powerful proactive strategy of their own.
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Elyv posted:Burn in Modern kind of reminds me of a less extreme version Dredge in Legacy; it's an extremely efficient and powerful linear deck that attacks along a different axis than most decks in the format and as such has a very good game 1 against the majority of decks in the format, but with the right sideboard cards you can beat it. Not too bad for Amulet - worst case, you can usually even get a few extra turns from "going off" with Radiant Fountain and Vesuva paired with bouncelands if you really have to. The Primeval plan can get a bit messed up by Deflecting Palm though.
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Elyv posted:Burn in Modern kind of reminds me of a less extreme version Dredge in Legacy; it's an extremely efficient and powerful linear deck that attacks along a different axis than most decks in the format and as such has a very good game 1 against the majority of decks in the format, but with the right sideboard cards you can beat it. In my experience its heavily in Amulet player's favor. Radiant Fountain + karoos + Vesuva mean that you can pad your life total well, and most iterations of the deck run Thragtusk and/or leylines out of the side.
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"*in dragoon voice from starcraft: brood war* i have returned" - legacy thunderdome
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black potus posted:"*in dragoon voice from starcraft: brood war* i have returned" - legacy thunderdome http://cdn.hark.com/swfs/player_fb.swf?pid=lnxdktkpnp  on-topic for DTK: Jormungand is my favorite brood
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i'm a big jormungand fan as well
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Just drafted this on MTGO. Won my first round, seems to be a pretty good selection. Someone passed me the Hordechief!
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Apr 7, 2015 19:32
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Newbie question: Has there always been a competitive mono-red deck in standard throughout all the different sets? I've been following MTG since RTR and it seems like RDW has been top 8 frequently ever since.
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Tenacious J posted:Newbie question: Has there always been a competitive mono-red deck in standard throughout all the different sets? Not always, but usually.
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Tenacious J posted:Newbie question: Has there always been a competitive mono-red deck in standard throughout all the different sets? Not all the time, but for as long as Sligh has existed, the dream of mono-red speeding out wins with cheap beats has been alive and well.
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