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Looks the racist trolls on Youtube might be your friendly local police officer, by the way. http://filmingcops.com/officer-loses-it-online-openly-calls-for-the-extermination-of-black-people/
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http://www.mediaite.com/tv/fox-legal-analyst-planting-weapons-on-victims-used-to-be-standard-operating-procedure/ Fantastic. quote:Fox legal analyst Arhtur Aidala told the Fox & Friends troika Wednesday morning that planting a weapon on a victim, as Officer Michael Slager is apparently seen to do to Walter Scott in a video released last night, used to be par for the course. Check out the big brain on Bri!
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I followed a couple of related links on that filming cops article and found this: Cop Burns the Body of a 3-yr-old Child for “Not Letting Him Sleep” quote:The toddler did not belong to Marrone but was left in his care. 
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Von Sloneker posted:http://www.mediaite.com/tv/fox-legal-analyst-planting-weapons-on-victims-used-to-be-standard-operating-procedure/ Yeah people have said that several times before and it is usually mocked in policethreads.
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Zeitgueist posted:Yeah people have said that several times before and it is usually mocked in policethreads.
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Rent-A-Cop posted:I remember in one of Tokeii's (sp?) old threads him saying stuff like that was pretty much SOP when he was a cop. Although IIRC that was Chicago in the 60's. Yep and people wonder why black people run from cops.
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Von Sloneker posted:http://www.mediaite.com/tv/fox-legal-analyst-planting-weapons-on-victims-used-to-be-standard-operating-procedure/ Thank god for the tempering influence of the Iphone
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As someone who has been to prison themselves I just want to say that life in prison is the appropriate punishment for this officer. He will have a miserable existence- the rest of his life will be spent in Protective Custody with child molestors and gang dropouts. Even that situation isn't safe for a dirty cop but it is safer than putting him in mainline- that would literally be a rape, torture and death sentence. This is assuming the guy is convicted. The death penalty is never an acceptable option, even in a case like this. The government should never have the power to put any citizen to death whether it's a judge with a sentencing order or a cop with a gun.
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the great deceiver posted:As someone who has been to prison themselves I just want to say that life in prison is the appropriate punishment for this officer. He will have a miserable existence- the rest of his life will be spent in Protective Custody with child molestors and gang dropouts. Even that situation isn't safe for a dirty cop but it is safer than putting him in mainline- that would literally be a rape, torture and death sentence. This is assuming the guy is convicted. I don't know that the US prison system is the appropriate punishment for anyone.
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Zeitgueist posted:I don't know that the US prison system is the appropriate punishment for anyone. It's absolutely not.
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Zeitgueist posted:I don't know that the US prison system is the appropriate punishment for anyone. I was in prison with a lot of white collar fraudsters who stole innocent people's savings and they deserved everything they got. I get what you're saying though, the US prison system is beyond hosed but it's the only realistic option there is right now. If anybody deserves to experience it firsthand it's this upstanding lawman.
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Life in prison is a death sentence
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:Life in prison is a death sentence I'm hoping he gets like 15 years, then comes out a changed man, like becoming a civil rights activist or lobbying to reform the prison system. 
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blunt for century posted:I'm hoping he gets like 15 years, then comes out a changed man, like becoming a civil rights activist or lobbying to reform the prison system. I want to know what will be done about in the other cops at the scene.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:I want to know what will be done about in the other cops at the scene. That's a good question. What are you referring to, specifically, though? Not rendering aid, but claiming to?
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blunt for century posted:That's a good question. What are you referring to, specifically, though? Not rendering aid, but claiming to? Accessory after the fact by not reporting the staging of the scene by the shooter
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Bel Shazar posted:Accessory after the fact by not reporting the staging of the scene by the shooter Oh yeah. 
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I think what's weird is the people not saying " If there were no video this man would have successfully murdered someone" in the news. Not " This guy got caught murdering someone". Just find it weird. If you ever want a fun read, look up the Federal Report on the NOPD.
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I don't know if it is though. He dropped the taser there, but the other officer might not seen it at all. And a cop dropping things during the cleanup is not in itself fishy.
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Hollismason posted:If you ever want a fun read, look up the Federal Report on the NOPD. Link?
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Mister Speaker posted:Holy poo poo, that is clear as day. Thanks for that. I don't know what to say that hasn't already been said. At the very beginning of the altercation, you it almost looks like Walter is knocking something out of the officer's hands as he begins to run away, and after the shooting the officer walks back to where he was standing originally to pick something up before coming back to the body and dropping the plant. The video isn't clear enough to make a conclusive judgment, but maybe Walker knocked the taser away before running.
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blunt for century posted:That's a good question. What are you referring to, specifically, though? Not rendering aid, but claiming to? Yup. Also, presumably this guy had a partner, who would have given a statement. Should there be conspiracy charges?
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Not all police departments partner officers up. That's an old TV trope more than a real thing. Maybe it was truer in the past.
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Here's the link to the Justice Department's investigation into New Orleans Police Department. https://www.justice.gov/crt/about/spl/nopd.php quote:Investigation of the New Orleans Police Department Another thing to note is that the New Orleans Police Department is horribly understaffed. http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2014/10/understaffed_nopd_receives_mor.html Oh and the whole "Guess we won't investigate sex crimes" debacle http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2014/11/new_orleans_police_ignore_sex.html Oh what's that? You didn't investigate in over 1100 sex crime related calls? Oh did the place where you store evidence burn the gently caress down? Fuccck I can't find the story, anyway it did. Hollismason fucked around with this message at 02:42 on Apr 9, 2015 |
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Bel Shazar posted:Accessory after the fact by not reporting the staging of the scene by the shooter I think they could claim ignorance, and might even be bona fide ignorant that he had
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Unless the murderer straight up said "I'm going to drop this taser here so it looks like he tried to take it from me", the other cop can claim ignorance and be totally clear. I know if I was in that situation I'd probably be totally loving confused why he dropped his taser and later be pretty loving pissed when I found out what his story was. Drop weapons haven't been a thing for a while, probably a decade or so if the old-timers stories are accurate, and were kind of a joke trope when I was on, but this guy just basically invented )or confirmed, I guess), drop tasers, so go hold wild on that, Jesus.
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Powercrazy posted:I think they could claim ignorance, and might even be bona fide ignorant that he had This isn't really true for the second officer on the scene. He's standing over the victim and watching during the whole process of Slager slowly walking to where the taser fell, grabbing it, slowly walking back to the victim, and planting it. If he backed Slager's story, and there's every reason to assume he did since that version wasn't questioned until the video dropped, he should be in a lot of trouble.
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Grem posted:Unless the murderer straight up said "I'm going to drop this taser here so it looks like he tried to take it from me", the other cop can claim ignorance and be totally clear. I know if I was in that situation I'd probably be totally loving confused why he dropped his taser and later be pretty loving pissed when I found out what his story was. Maybe the only place he could think of to put it was in the middle of the scene of a homicide investigation. Oh ha ha this was a police shooting! No need to treat this area like a crime scene! Or track the shooting in a database of any kind.
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Powercrazy posted:I think they could claim ignorance, and might even be bona fide ignorant that he had That sounds like a worthy line of defense. I wish the prosecutors would allow them the chance to mount it.
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Is the police officer's report on the shooting public? The news is saying he filed his report BEFORE the video was out. I'd like to see what he wrote before he knew anyone else had seen what he did.
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In a lot of jurisdictions the officer involved does not actually write "the report". The official report is written by the investigating agency, IA, or a supervisor, etc. Edit. That is not to say the officer's statements, verbal or written, about what occured would not be a main portion of the final product. Just that officers don't investigate their own shooting and submit a report about it. Untagged fucked around with this message at 05:38 on Apr 9, 2015 |
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:Life in prison is a death sentence No it's not though. It is still entirely possible to live a relatively fulfilling life behind bars. That's something the victim won't have a chance to do. In my experience, however, LWOP sentences are handed out way, way too liberally. I'm not a huge proponent of life without the chance sentences; as a matter of fact I tend to think they should be abolished entirely. I think that parole boards should have more authority and that life sentences should automatically become reviewable after a certain, realistic number of years. If there ever was a case that I think would deserve a LWOP sentence though it would probably be this one. One thing that I learned from doing 3 years in prison is that there really are some people in there who don't deserve to live in society. The US has become so blinded by draconian sentencing laws and being tough on crime that many people who might deserve a second chance are locked away forever and we ultimately lose sight of what types of people truly do not deserve another shot at living in society.
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Voyager I posted:At the very beginning of the altercation, you it almost looks like Walter is knocking something out of the officer's hands as he begins to run away, and after the shooting the officer walks back to where he was standing originally to pick something up before coming back to the body and dropping the plant. The video isn't clear enough to make a conclusive judgment, but maybe Walker knocked the taser away before running. There is no good reason at all to move the taser back to the body of the person he just killed unless he needed to strengthen his reason for using deadly force. I don't doubt there was a fight of some sort, and Scott may have grabbed or slapped the taser out of the officer's hands but honestly none of that matters. Nothing that happened up to the shooting matters because there's a clear break in time between the confrontation and the actual shooting. At the time of the shooting there was no threat, even if a threat existed prior.
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Athe great deceiver posted:No it's not though. It is still entirely possible to live a relatively fulfilling life behind bars. That's something the victim won't have a chance to do. In my experience, however, LWOP sentences are handed out way, way too liberally. I'm not a huge proponent of life without the chance sentences; as a matter of fact I tend to think they should be abolished entirely. I think that parole boards should have more authority and that life sentences should automatically become reviewable after a certain, realistic number of years. If there ever was a case that I think would deserve a LWOP sentence though it would probably be this one. A good post. Life sentence is what some people need, but it should be conditional, not absolute. Life without parole is only routine in the US. Elsewhere there is always somekind of condition after certain years. Like a norwegian judge said abou Breivik and his 22 years plus conditional years: "state of norway declares people adult at 18. 22 years is a good time to redo that process and evaluate its success on a yearly basis."
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:you're literally sentenced to die in prison so welp There's a pretty huge difference between living the rest of your natural life in custody and actually having the state pull the trigger to take your life.
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I'm surprised republican legislators have not campaigned for the Japanese system, where you spend each day for decades not knowing if the guards opening your cell door are there to bring you your lunch or frog-march you to the death chamber.
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SedanChair posted:I'm surprised republican legislators have not campaigned for the Japanese system, where you spend each day for decades not knowing if the guards opening your cell door are there to bring you your lunch or frog-march you to the death chamber. Can't see that working in the US. As everyone would be executed instantly to save costs therefore profits!
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