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An Angry Bug posted:Please don't bring more people into this deranged world. There are already way more than the planet can support.
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Isentropy posted:Where can I watch the Nova Scotian housing market crumble in real time? Please note that the only well paying jobs in Halifax are in some way government related (military contractors, the military, or healthcare/education). Job markets like this usually lead to less volatile housing markets. The Maritimes as a whole generally don't peak and valley the way other parts of the country do, they mostly truck along at a steady low.
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Apr 9, 2015 16:53
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Seldom Posts posted:Job markets like this usually lead to less volatile housing markets. The Maritimes as a whole generally don't peak and valley the way other parts of the country do, they mostly truck along at a steady low. To put the lie to this, did not home prices spike when Halifax won the shipbuilding contract? And hasn't that euphoria already tapering off when it occured to everyone that it wasn't going to result in the rebirth of industry in Halifax? Government work might be steady, but house prices have been divorced from the job market for at least a decade now.
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Apr 9, 2015 17:06
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An Angry Bug posted:Please don't bring more people into this deranged world. There are already way more than the planet can support. If you're even the slightest bit environmentally conscious then having a child is probably the single worst thing you can do re: environmental impact on the planet unless you're in charge of a large oil tanker or something of similar scale. A lifetime of wastefulness and the sins of not recycling wouldn't outweigh having a child.
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Apr 9, 2015 17:12
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Rime posted:You know, as much as we poo poo on the elders in here, young people are just as retarded. Sounds like they're plenty smart. Enjoying their twenties at no cost and no debt.
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Apr 9, 2015 18:34
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Apr 9, 2015 18:43
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mastershakeman posted:Sounds like they're plenty smart. Enjoying their twenties at no cost and no debt. Hitting thirty after being insulated from reality your entire life and trying to find a job with a useless degree and "20 hours of VtM Larping weekly" as your resume doesn't seem very smart in this economy? Their middle-class parents aren't rich enough to keep the gravy train rolling past graduation, rather in both cases it's just burning the inheritance.  The idea of "enjoying your twenties" like that is farcical in our new reality, unless a shotgun is your retirement plan. Rime fucked around with this message at 18:50 on Apr 9, 2015 |
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Apr 9, 2015 18:44
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ocrumsprug posted:To put the lie to this, did not home prices spike when Halifax won the shipbuilding contract? And hasn't that euphoria already tapering off when it occured to everyone that it wasn't going to result in the rebirth of industry in Halifax? Thanks for reminding me why I shouldn't pay attention to this thread. Here are actual figures: http://www.cmhc-schl.gc.ca/odpub/esub/64267/64267_2014_B02.pdf Look at fig. 5. Average home price in halifax has increased by about $65k in the last 8 years. between 2011 and 2013 it went up about $12k. http://www.cmhc-schl.gc.ca/odpub/esub/64363/64363_2014_B02.pdf?fr=1428601917877 Look at page 14. Avg. house prices in vancouver went up just under $400k between 2011 and 2013. Do you still think I am lying when I say that the Halifax market is more stable?
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Apr 9, 2015 19:02
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Rime posted:Hitting thirty after being insulated from reality your entire life and trying to find a job with a useless degree and "20 hours of VtM Larping weekly" as your resume doesn't seem very smart in this economy? Their middle-class parents aren't rich enough to keep the gravy train rolling past graduation, rather in both cases it's just burning the inheritance. Considering that their alternative probably was spending their 20's stuck in short-term, low-wage, temp-work I don't think it's quite fair to blame them for making that choice. They've chosen the path that fucks them in the future rather then today. Also, no need to worry about retirement when you're heading straight for lung cancer and/or liver failure after 10 years of 24/7 partying. 
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Apr 9, 2015 19:09
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Seldom Posts posted:Thanks for reminding me why I shouldn't pay attention to this thread. Sorry, I wasn't intending to call you a liar. My understanding was that when the ship building contract went through, it had spiked prices. I guess the better question is why BC is crazy everywhere? The response to the Site C dam project getting green lit was the immediate speculation on houses in that part of the province. (Houses in Fort St. John cost about the same as Halifax.)
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Apr 9, 2015 19:19
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ocrumsprug posted:Sorry, I wasn't intending to call you a liar. My understanding was that when the ship building contract went through, it had spiked prices. it's cool. My understanding is that home sales spiked a bit around the time of the shipbuilding announcement, but there was no real spike in prices and sales then cooled off again.
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Apr 9, 2015 19:30
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Rime posted:Hitting thirty after being insulated from reality your entire life and trying to find a job with a useless degree and "20 hours of VtM Larping weekly" as your resume doesn't seem very smart in this economy? Their middle-class parents aren't rich enough to keep the gravy train rolling past graduation, rather in both cases it's just burning the inheritance. Yeah, I saw a bunch of people 10-30 years older than me go through exact that. "Enjoy your 20's!" Perpetual student on their parent's dime or a mix of student loans, parents money, and scholarships. Finally they hit their 30's and realize they know nothing but school and have no skills to leave it, so just stay at school so long as the money is there. If their parent's money runs out they just exist on student loans and weird grants, anything but ever go out into the real world because they are absolutely incapable of it. Absolute pros at university, learning, test writing, thesis writing, and finding every possible scrap of education money they can squeeze from the system. It's a nice life if you've got the funding, but their worlds pretty quickly crumble once the inheritance they were depending on gets gambled away, or their parents cut them off.
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All you smug 'lol how's your gold plated degree working out for you now' shits should really factor in the malaise of underemployment as a symptom of Canada's bullshit under diversified economy. I met several people in London who managed to build successful high paying careers out of liberal arts degrees. An Oxbridge degree in polysci, philosophy and economics would get you in to an ibanking job paying 6 figures no problem. I have multiple acquaintances who managed to do the same in NYC. There are numerous studies that confirm a university degree is still a valuable commodity regardless of what libertarian hero Peter Thiel tells you.
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Apr 9, 2015 20:00
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ocrumsprug posted:Sorry, I wasn't intending to call you a liar. My understanding was that when the ship building contract went through, it had spiked prices. BC has a deeply ingrained hosed up culture where a generation or more of people have seen the #1 way to get rich is property speculation. In fact it's the only way to get rich because there sure as hell aren't careers here and why work when you can speculate? Everyone measures their jobs/income by how much house they can buy. You work in BC only to qualify for a mortgage, your career is equity building. People know the big money is always getting in on the ground floor, so everyone rushes in to buy anywhere there is a possibility of becoming a boom town. So some place announces an approved LNG terminal, or a mine, or what ever, and people go nuts buying way before anything happens because they want to get in on that ground floor. They want to buy those decaying poo poo shacks now for 100k because once the big industry takes off it will be worth 500k, or command insane rents. That's of course if the approved or even rumoured plan ever gets off the ground. It ends up being like stocks a bit, people get a "hot tip" and go buying crazy, and with houses you're always buying on margin. Nothing wrong with an economy based entirely around people buying massive investments on margin.
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Apr 9, 2015 20:05
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Cultural Imperial posted:All you smug 'lol how's your gold plated degree working out for you now' shits should really factor in the malaise of underemployment as a symptom of Canada's bullshit under diversified economy. I met several people in London who managed to build successful high paying careers out of liberal arts degrees. An Oxbridge degree in polysci, philosophy and economics would get you in to an ibanking job paying 6 figures no problem. I have multiple acquaintances who managed to do the same in NYC. Yeah, that's fine for the very precise combinations of {London, Oxbridge, liberal arts} or {NYC, Columbia, liberal arts}. Pray tell, how does the SFU poetry grad living in the lower mainland perform the same career jujitsu?
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Apr 9, 2015 20:08
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Lexicon posted:Yeah, that's fine for the very precise combinations of {London, Oxbridge, liberal arts} or {NYC, Columbia, liberal arts}. A good first step is to get the gently caress out of Canada.
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Apr 9, 2015 20:10
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a BA in Psychology and no work experience doesn't put you very high on the "skilled immigration" lists that most countries require to get a job there. I'm not talking about people who finished their degrees fast and did a shitton of extra-curricular networking and projects to build a name for themselves in the field, I'm talking about idiots that spend half a decade coasting and doing the minimum required to graduate before they die during their nightly video game marathon. Rime fucked around with this message at 20:18 on Apr 9, 2015 |
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Apr 9, 2015 20:16
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Seriously what the gently caress are y'all motherfuckers smoking if you think a university education is a waste of time in terms of social mobility? gently caress, a basic requirement for many T1 visa occupations is a loving university degree, never mind grad school. I sympathize with the plight of americans who are several hundred thousand dollars in debt but if you all are going to draw the same parallel in terms of debt servitude, you're a disingenuous douche bag.
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Apr 9, 2015 20:17
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Rime posted:a BA in Psychology and no work experience doesn't put you very high on the "skilled immigration" lists that most countries require to get a job there. Yeah I don't know how the gently caress psychology gets so many students.
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It's the degree that looks "serious" while requiring the least amount of work, and you can pretend to be smarter because you have a degree in "psychology". When you're too dumb to even hammer out a BA in History, you fall back on it (my example 2 from above). The problem isn't that degrees are inherently worthless, it's that a large percentage of the people obtaining them are. We're subsidizing these chucklefucks so that they can be a drain on the system for the rest of their lives. Rime fucked around with this message at 20:26 on Apr 9, 2015 |
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Apr 9, 2015 20:22
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Cultural Imperial posted:Yeah I don't know how the gently caress psychology gets so many students. I'm sure I'll offend someone here, but whatever: Psychology, at least as manifested as an undergraduate offering, isn't a real field. It's a series of quite interesting pieces of trivia, strung together over 4+ years, packaged up as a product so idiots can proclaim themselves university graduates. There aren't many fields where you can walk into an upper level course sitting and perfectly comprehend absolutely everything that's being said. Psychology is such a field.
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Apr 9, 2015 20:27
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Cultural Imperial posted:A good first step is to get the gently caress out of Canada. Lexicon posted:SFU poetry grad Good luck with that.
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Apr 9, 2015 20:29
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Cultural Imperial posted:Yeah I don't know how the gently caress psychology gets so many students. It works for elementary teachers, and generalized government employees that require a degree to 'check the box' for applicants.
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Apr 9, 2015 20:34
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If Margaret Atwood can garner international renown, an SFU poet should have no problem. He/she isn't trying hard enough.
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Apr 9, 2015 20:36
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jm20 posted:It works for elementary teachers, and generalized government employees that require a degree to 'check the box' for applicants. Lot of military officers with psychology degrees too! It really is the check-box degree. Sometimes I think of getting one just so I can check the box and consider my self educated, then go back to my $17 an hour no-benefits job.
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Apr 9, 2015 20:36
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jm20 posted:It works for elementary teachers, and generalized government employees that require a degree to 'check the box' for applicants. Yeah, but if you're just in it for a "check the box" thing, why not study something you're somewhat interested in? Are there really that many people who are passionate about psychology when compared with history or English literature?
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Apr 9, 2015 20:37
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One of my favorite BBC radio DJs is a stoner from Nelson. This probes there's hope for all Canadians.
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Apr 9, 2015 20:39
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You can't get the gently caress out of Canada unless you meet one of these three criteria. 1) You have an online business where you churn out content remotely from any place you desire and make American profits from it. Congrats. Now you can double your money by moving to Prague, Buenos Aires, Bangkok or any other metropolitan centre vastly superior to Toronto for 1/4 of the living costs. In fact you could basically live in a new country every month if you wanted to. 2) You have a high level degree in Engineering, Biotech, IT and other STEM fields. Or you have many 3 letter acronyms after your name. Sprinkle in a minimum of 5-8 years work experience and a good LinkedIn profile. Congrats, now you are in the top percentiles of humanity by your qualifications alone. You're no longer competing with the droves of unemployed masses competing for the same job who have cultural and language advantage on you. 3) Come from a wealthy family... Self explanatory.
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Apr 9, 2015 20:40
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I wish my parents had brought me up to be the kind of person who would go to Def Con instead of a lawyer. Or, like, literally anything else.
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Apr 9, 2015 20:41
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An Angry Bug posted:Please don't bring more people into this deranged world. There are already way more than the planet can support. That's just what people say to justify not having kids it isn't actually true. Using current farm tech this planet can support ~12 billion people.
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Apr 9, 2015 20:41
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So what you guys are saying is, waah life sucks, check your privilege, I don't want to go to university, much less anything else that might remotely improve my chances at social mobility, 420 smoke NDP every day
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Apr 9, 2015 20:47
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PT6A posted:Yeah, but if you're just in it for a "check the box" thing, why not study something you're somewhat interested in? Are there really that many people who are passionate about psychology when compared with history or English literature? Most people think that if they learn psychology they can learn the fundamental reason why people do the things they do and can manipulate the world to their own desires and be way smarter than everyone else because they know your reasons for doing poo poo better than you do and all that garbage. It's basically the Always Sunny episode "Mac is a serial killer" except in real life.
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Apr 9, 2015 20:49
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Cultural Imperial posted:So what you guys are saying is, waah life sucks, check your privilege, I don't want to go to university, much less anything else that might remotely improve my chances at social mobility, 420 smoke NDP every day That piece of paper they give you will probably be worthless by the time you graduate and then you'll have wasted four or six or eight years learning about some subject that got replaced by robots anyways. And even if everybody decided to learn about robot construction and repair that'd also be useless because then if everybody knows how to do something then why pay anyone a decent salary to do it? ChairMaster fucked around with this message at 20:58 on Apr 9, 2015 |
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Apr 9, 2015 20:54
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I can buy that explanation. A decade of lovely police procedurals has made psychology extremely romanticised.
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Apr 9, 2015 20:54
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Discussion of STEM and worthless basket weavers in a Canada thread? I don't even know if this thing works anymore, but 
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Apr 9, 2015 21:03
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Go into crowd control technology and you'll have plenty of opportunities in the years to come!
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Apr 9, 2015 21:06
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PT6A posted:Yeah, but if you're just in it for a "check the box" thing, why not study something you're somewhat interested in? Are there really that many people who are passionate about psychology when compared with history or English literature? Some portion of them also believe that getting a bachelor's in psych will allow them to understand their own badbrains from the inside.
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Cultural Imperial posted:Unironically, how do you think Austria has a strong manufacturing based economy? Austrian economics.
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