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Skunkrocker posted:I recently found out that The Guardians of the Galaxy soundtrack was the second best selling cassette tape of 2014. How the hell was it not #1
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Apr 9, 2015 04:27
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Yeah my old Saturn is still rocking a cassette player (which I use a converter thingy in to listen to music off my phone).
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Apr 9, 2015 04:37
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I picked up the Gamers Edition because I wanted the physical comic, but the tapes will be cool to display somewhere too.
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Apr 9, 2015 04:41
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Yeah I'd probably pick this up if they minused the $30 I already spent on two games they want to sell me again.
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Apr 9, 2015 05:55
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moths posted:Yeah I'd probably pick this up if they minused the $30 I already spent on two games they want to sell me again. At this point I figure I'm just paying for the extra doo-dads, not the games. I'm a big enough idiot fanboy of this series to pay it for them.
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Apr 9, 2015 05:57
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Tulip posted:How the hell was it not #1 Literally my question. I'm guessing Frozen.
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Apr 9, 2015 06:22
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I feel like there aren't even $60 worth of extras, though. You don't even get a full OST, just a tape. Had this been available at launch, yeah the +$40 for a physical version and stuff would have been absolutely awesome sign me up. But after a month double-dipping the CE just feels like milking it, especially without a proper art book, bonus tracks, statue, action figure, or any of the other stuff that's industry standard in a collector's box these days. I mean, the horror version of Loot Crate gave people a latex Eddie (from Iron Maiden) mask. Packing the whole thing in a Richard head is not impossible, and would make this a loving insta-buy.
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Apr 9, 2015 06:24
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Skyscraper posted:So, why DID Richter kill the girlfriend? I know Jacket didn't stop killing Russians just because she was around. They probably thought Jacket was too much of a liability to keep alive. The girlfriend was just collateral damage on Richter's part.
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Apr 9, 2015 15:11
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Skunkrocker posted:I recently found out that The Guardians of the Galaxy soundtrack was the second best selling cassette tape of 2014. They probably just included it along with the special fancy blu-ray edition as a movie prop, because the cassette tape is literally in the film. Then because they included one with every special edition blu-ray or whatever, they could say they "sold" X cassettes, and since nobody buys cassettes you end up with more of them sold than anybody. Second best is odd though. MONKET posted:i drive a car that still has a casette tape player so i'd greatly appreciate it I wish I did, its so much easier to rig up an iPhone jack if you have one. I'm too cheap for an aftermarket stereo 
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Apr 9, 2015 15:50
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Doc Friday posted:They probably thought Jacket was too much of a liability to keep alive. The girlfriend was just collateral damage on Richter's part. That's how I read it at the time, but that then raises the question of why they suddenly decided to kill Jacket, who was arguably their best operative.
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Apr 9, 2015 16:27
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Skyscraper posted:That's how I read it at the time, but that then raises the question of why they suddenly decided to kill Jacket, who was arguably their best operative. Because he was their best operative. I feel like it was less a case of "This guy might inform on the police" and more "This guy might turn on us and attack us directly if we keep him around like that Biker dude." Jacket would've destroyed 50B.
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Apr 9, 2015 16:30
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Skyscraper posted:That's how I read it at the time, but that then raises the question of why they suddenly decided to kill Jacket, who was arguably their best operative. Someone posted earlier that it may have been because they found out he was with Biker when Biker was hacking into the phone hom computers to get info on 50 blessings, and putting Jacket down is insurance that their secrets continue to go unknown, just in case. I hadn't given much thought to it before but that makes sense to me.
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Apr 9, 2015 16:34
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Another Person posted:Because he was their best operative. I feel like it was less a case of "This guy might inform on the police" and more "This guy might turn on us and attack us directly if we keep him around like that Biker dude." Jacket would've destroyed 50B. CJacobs posted:Someone posted earlier that it may have been because they found out he was with Biker when Biker was hacking into the phone hom computers to get info on 50 blessings, and putting Jacket down is insurance that their secrets continue to go unknown, just in case. I hadn't given much thought to it before but that makes sense to me. Skyscraper fucked around with this message at 16:43 on Apr 9, 2015 |
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Apr 9, 2015 16:39
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Doc Friday posted:They probably thought Jacket was too much of a liability to keep alive. The girlfriend was just collateral damage on Richter's part. Yeah this is how I take it. I mean, Jacket's killings were getting big enough that people were taking notice. Reporters and fans alike were starting to follow him, that's about when 50 blessings needs to nip him in the bud and find more people to take his place, lest they get too much attention and the FBI finds them or something. The only thing that seems odd is, I can understand the 50 blessings being an intentional suicide mission against the Russians; ghost wolves was the same situation. A small group of soldiers pretty much being sent to their deaths. On the last level the General even complains that he doesn't like what he has to order you to do, because you probably won't make it out alive. But... then wouldn't the General feel bad about killing his own 50 blessings soldiers later? I guess he'd see it as his "mission" at that point, and that even though he didn't like it, the mission called for it and it had to be done? The scene where Jake gets shot is pretty satisfying, he still doesn't get what's happening up to the last second.
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Apr 9, 2015 16:46
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Tulip posted:How the hell was it not #1 Queen's Greatest Hits beat it out. e: Also for $60 the cassette should be an old style home made mixtape featuring random elements of the soundtrack.
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Apr 9, 2015 17:07
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Going by the other hitmen you find throughout Hotline: Miami, I figured the 50 Blessings business model was based around their murder dudes getting killed on the job before they could get too curious or draw too much attention. It's just Jacket, murder savant that he is, didn't have the good courtesy to get himself murdered by a Russki and started to make everybody nervous. Hence sending him on more and more dangerous hits, and then arranging the meeting with Biker and eventually going "fuckit" and sending another hitman to get him.
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Apr 9, 2015 18:10
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One thing I've been thinking about is the Colonel. In the past we've kinda considered his actions as motivated by revenge on the Russians, starting the whole 50 blessings and then assassinating the leaders which causes the nuke. But what if he didn't really give a poo poo about the Russians after all? At that point maybe he's just so mad that violence and war are all he knows, chaos. The Russians are just a convenient target, he just needs an enemy, he doesn't care who. Or, even better yet, what if he knowingly killed the presidents intentionally in order to bring about the nuke and the end of days? The Colonel's character is pretty heavily based on Kurtz from Heart of Darkness / Apocalypse now. Kurtz has gone rogue and amassed his own army, and is losing his mind to alcohol and warfare and violence. He begins to respect the enemy and see himself as a warlord. In particular the ending has Willard finding Kurtz' documents including the phrase "Drop the Bomb Exterminate them All".
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Apr 9, 2015 22:06
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erm That's sort of exactly the Colonel's thing. I did not think that was really a controversial opinion. You remember the bit where he showed up wearing a panther and banged on about how we are all animals!! for a while? Did you interpret that as "Gosh I really dislike the Russians"?
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Apr 9, 2015 22:15
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Nah I remember that, I actually had a bit about it in the post already but I felt like I was rambling so I edited it out. I mean clearly the dude is snapping, but I guess my first read was that he snapped and kept the war going even when the war was kinda cold-ish, but he was still kinda trying to win the war or get revenge for the soldiers he lost or something. Crazy, but crazy with a plan. Lawful evil or neutral evil. Like he'd kill all the Russians and then in theory he'd be good, but in reality he was totally crazy. But now I think the nuke was entirely planned, he's just loving chaotic evil and just wants to watch the world burn. Although if the goal is just to nuke everything, why bother with 50 blessings? The nuke kills everybody anyways, why bother with small-scale masked maniacs? Was he building up to that and didn't have the idea yet, or was the violence with Jacket somehow necessary to ramp up to the assassination in order to really convince Russia that poo poo had to end? I guess the idea is that just killing the leader may not push them over the edge, but if tensions are already at a boiling point then the assassination can be the straw that broke the camel's back? Zaphod42 fucked around with this message at 22:25 on Apr 9, 2015 |
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Apr 9, 2015 22:23
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could you maybe make a chart for hotline miami, detailing which characters are lawful/neutral/chaotic good/neutral/evil i feel it would help me understand
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Apr 9, 2015 22:26
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DOWN JACKET FETISH posted:could you maybe make a chart for hotline miami, detailing which characters are lawful/neutral/chaotic good/neutral/evil Jake is Chaotic Neutral
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Apr 9, 2015 22:28
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Skyscraper posted:Found out he was there? Didn't they, kind of, send him there? Well what I mean is, they found out what Biker was looking at (which you see the result of in his timeline) and so they have someone kill Jacket just in case he also gained the info Biker did. The message you get after the regular level is over basically says that they know Biker is going there to find out some deep 50 blessings secrets, which he does just before Jacket arrives. Therefore, even though they sent Jacket there to stop Biker and he did by killing him, he was unsuccessful in what they actually wanted him to do which was stopping Biker from checking out the files. That's how I chose to interpret Jacket getting shot, anyway.
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Apr 9, 2015 22:30
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DOWN JACKET FETISH posted:could you maybe make a chart for hotline miami, detailing which characters are lawful/neutral/chaotic good/neutral/evil I'm sorry D&D terms trigger you  Its a pretty easy way to categorize character morality.
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Apr 9, 2015 22:32
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Please make the chart
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Apr 9, 2015 22:34
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DOWN JACKET FETISH posted:could you maybe make a chart for hotline miami, detailing which characters are lawful/neutral/chaotic good/neutral/evil Jacket is True Neutral
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Apr 9, 2015 22:35
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CJacobs posted:Well what I mean is, they found out what Biker was looking at (which you see the result of in his timeline) and so they have someone kill Jacket just in case he also gained the info Biker did. The message you get after the regular level is over basically says that they know Biker is going there to find out some deep 50 blessings secrets, which he does just before Jacket arrives. Therefore, even though they sent Jacket there to stop Biker and he did by killing him, he was unsuccessful in what they actually wanted him to do which was stopping Biker from checking out the files. That's how I chose to interpret Jacket getting shot, anyway. Well, both managed to make it out of the scuffle alive, so even though Jacket believed he got Biker, the fact that both lived must have been a good enough reason to take out Jacket.
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Apr 9, 2015 22:37
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Zaphod42 posted:I'm sorry D&D terms trigger you It actually isn't A Bystander posted:Well, both managed to make it out of the scuffle alive, so even though Jacket believed he got Biker, the fact that both lived must have been a good enough reason to take out Jacket. It's worth noting that Phonehom doesn't have the "everyone is dead" static after the biker fight
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Apr 9, 2015 22:40
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Zaphod42 posted:I'm sorry D&D terms trigger you It may be easy but it is also awful, and dumb, and captures absolutely no nuance whatsoever, to the point of uselessness. Improbable Lobster posted:It's worth noting that Phonehom doesn't have the "everyone is dead" static after the biker fight I wonder if that was changed in a patch, or if it's always been like that?
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Apr 9, 2015 23:20
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Zaphod42 posted:One thing I've been thinking about is the Colonel. In the past we've kinda considered his actions as motivated by revenge on the Russians, starting the whole 50 blessings and then assassinating the leaders which causes the nuke. The Colonel is pretty similar to General Ripper from Dr. Strangelove as well.
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Apr 9, 2015 23:39
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DOWN JACKET FETISH posted:could you maybe make a chart for hotline miami, detailing which characters are lawful/neutral/chaotic good/neutral/evil I'm afraid that I still wouldn't understand unless each character's Myers-Briggs personality test results are also posted on this chart.
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Apr 10, 2015 00:31
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Ok Down Jacket Fetish here's your chart. Jacket is chaotic evil. Biker is chaotic evil. Richter is chaotic evil. The 50 Blessings showrunners are chaotic evil. Tony is chaotic evil. Corey is chaotic evil. Alex and Ash are chaotic evil twins. Mark is chaotic evil. The henchman is chaotic evil. The mob boss is chaotic evil. Jake is chaotic evil. Richard represents chaotic evil. Everybody is chaotic evil except for Richter's mom.
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Apr 10, 2015 01:00
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And Manny Pardo, he's clearly Lawful Good.
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Apr 10, 2015 01:09
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You forgot the player. Which chaotic are we??????
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Apr 10, 2015 01:11
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Also Richard is clearly True Neutral. 
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Apr 10, 2015 01:12
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gently caress Demolition. I'm not talking about the puzzle at the start, but an A+ seems to require pulling a 25x combo or something on the second floor.
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Apr 10, 2015 01:16
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Doc Friday posted:The Colonel is pretty similar to General Ripper from Dr. Strangelove as well. Precious bodily fluids, and then the nuke going off. Yeah, good call. So who's strangelove?  CJacobs posted:Ok Down Jacket Fetish here's your chart. I agree with everything except I'd have Jacket at Chaotic Neutral. Zaphod42 fucked around with this message at 01:39 on Apr 10, 2015 |
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Apr 10, 2015 01:33
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I think everyone talking about why 50B had Jacket killed is missing the forest for individual trees. Imho it's as simple as 'Neighbors': when Jacket encounters Biker he's in the same room with the person who knows more than anyone else involved about who's making these phonecalls and has all the info he could need to track 50B, and no matter how you slice it that's too big of a risk. Like, the textbook definition of "knows too much". Jake's secret ending, especially lends credence to this. I'm just surprised they didn't execute him sooner.
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Apr 10, 2015 01:36
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I think the idea that they were hoping to kill him with increasingly dangerous missions makes sense.
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Apr 10, 2015 01:41
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Lacedaemonius posted:I think everyone talking about why 50B had Jacket killed is missing the forest for individual trees. Imho it's as simple as 'Neighbors': when Jacket encounters Biker he's in the same room with the person who knows more than anyone else involved about who's making these phonecalls and has all the info he could need to track 50B, and no matter how you slice it that's too big of a risk. Like, the textbook definition of "knows too much". Jake's secret ending, especially lends credence to this. I'm just surprised they didn't execute him sooner. They sent Jacket after Biker. Like, they called Jacket while he was in the middle of clearing out a large building and told him to go to Phonehom. Maybe they still wanted to tie up loose ends for safety's sake, but they knew beforehand Jacket would encounter the person tracking them because they sent him there to stop that.
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Oblivion4568238 posted:They sent Jacket after Biker. Like, they called Jacket while he was in the middle of clearing out a large building and told him to go to Phonehom. Maybe they still wanted to tie up loose ends for safety's sake, but they knew beforehand Jacket would encounter the person tracking them because they sent him there to stop that. Lesser of two evils mate. Are you going to send one of your men after a demonstrably driven and dangerous killer coming for you and risk him being 'corrupted' (for lack of a better term), or just rollover and let him get you? Don't forget how loving dangerous Biker is, and when you look at some of the previous cockups (Carl, Jones, etc.) I don't really see any better options than sending Jacket.
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