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Sash! posted:They don't even drink actual booze! They do in DS9! One more point in that show's favor.
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MikeJF posted:Admiral Ross did a brief bit of necessary evil but on the whole was a pretty awesome workhorse. I hate admiral Ross because he would always pass over Carl Winslow for promotion and take credit for his work.
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Gonz posted:Also, there's a third Admiral just offscreen that caused the ship to explode to begin with. Implosion. Fister Roboto posted:They do in DS9! One more point in that show's favor. "oh yeah, these guys drink real ethanol, it's a much more ~*~authentic~*~ experience" I don't understand why everyone's gotta be space booze hipsters in this thread.
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Apr 10, 2015 15:17
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Even though the warp speed limit deal is ehhhh at best, the episode did give us a badass looking subspace warp rift.
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Apr 10, 2015 15:57
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Given the track record of the holodeck malfunctioning and going rogue when exposed to weird space phenomena or when the ship shakes too hard, an all-holographic ship just seems to be asking for trouble.
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iraqniphobia posted:No joke I'm afraid. Just lots of drugs.
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Question: Why were the Bolians let into the Federation? They are a garbage race. Do you think whoever signed off on the paperwork thought they were getting the Tholians? Like, he thought he just pulled off a huge diplomatic coup, and then when word got back to the federation he was quickly promoted to admiral and sent to watch deep space 12 on the edge of the neutral zone?
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greatn posted:Question: Why were the Bolians let into the Federation? They are a garbage race. Do you think whoever signed off on the paperwork thought they were getting the Tholians? Like, he thought he just pulled off a huge diplomatic coup, and then when word got back to the federation he was quickly promoted to admiral and sent to watch deep space 12 on the edge of the neutral zone? The Bolians were invited to join because of their advanced plumbing technologies. 
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greatn posted:Question: Why were the Bolians let into the Federation? They are a garbage race. Do you think whoever signed off on the paperwork thought they were getting the Tholians? Like, he thought he just pulled off a huge diplomatic coup, and then when word got back to the federation he was quickly promoted to admiral and sent to watch deep space 12 on the edge of the neutral zone? As far as I can tell, the Bolian race is known primarily for wringing their hands and kvetching. edit: Which probably fits in well with the general civilian population of the Federation, to be honest.
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Oh, regarding pre-production designs on Ferengi, here are Gene Roddenberry's memos describing them: 
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Apr 10, 2015 18:06
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Of course that memo notes the sexual prowess of the Ferengi. God drat it, Gene.
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Apr 10, 2015 18:19
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I like how it starts out fairly normal and then in like the third paragraph we're into details on Ferengi genitals
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VitalSigns posted:This always annoyed me about the doctor too. Sick-bay is fitted with tiny tractor beams so he can pick things up: why does he have to waste time walking around to get stuff when he could just have the computer levitate them into his hands. Why does he need tools at all when holographic or replicated ones could appear in his hands instantly? Why does he have to go enter stuff into his little laptop when everything he knows is in the computer already, wouldn't it be faster in an emergency for the EMH to just create the record files directly into the logs? Why is his field of view limited to where the representation of him is pointing when every inch of sick bay must be observed by cameras already? I was thinking about this last night, and the best I can explain it is that the EMH is deliberately completely segregated so that a compromised Computer won't prevent him from working. It is not a system you want to go down after all! Possibly some psychological stuff about people feeling more comfortable with a more human-like doc too, remember that they were real dicks to the Doctor on Voyager until Kes stepped in. And god drat it, Gene.
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Apr 10, 2015 18:34
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I bet his notes have all kinds of charts and diagrams detailing the specifics of alien dongs
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Apr 10, 2015 18:40
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VitalSigns posted:Is there a single starfleet admiral who isn't shown to be either evil or incompetent? Ever? J.P. Hansen 
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I do think it would have been pretty cool if they did something with the "even the slowest Ferengi could outdraw Wyatt Earp" stuff. It would be amazing for a bunch of greedy snivling little Ferengis to be able to whip out some anime style speed and zip around people without even trying. Also I never 100% realized the Ferengi were completely hairless until I read that but it makes total sense. You'd think for being specific as he was about Ferengi genitals (the shape!) that he would have also included the trademark "Hew-MON" pronunciation. So that being said, I give mega credit to the actor/director/writer/etc who originally decided that that would be a cool thing to say.
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Apr 10, 2015 18:44
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Sash! posted:I bet his notes have all kinds of charts and diagrams detailing the specifics of alien dongs Does anyone have that post from a previous thread where a goon drew a bunch of theoretical diagrams comparing the textures of Cardassian/Bajoran penises/vaginas?
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Apr 10, 2015 19:11
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Tyson Tomko posted:
Check the Nagus's ears.
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greatn posted:I hate admiral Ross because he would always pass over Carl Winslow for promotion and take credit for his work. Holy poo poo, you're right
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Cat Hatter posted:Does anyone have that post from a previous thread where a goon drew a bunch of theoretical diagrams comparing the textures of Cardassian/Bajoran penises/vaginas? Oh good so that wasn't a fever dream. Oh god so that wasn't a fever dream.
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A whole new level of spoonhead.
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Apr 10, 2015 22:29
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Do they have spoondicks too?!?
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Lowen SoDium posted:Check the Nagus's ears. poo poo you're right. So there is still a chance for ferengi pubes afterall good deal.
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Mike the TV posted:Do they have spoondicks too?!? "Why a spoondick, cousin?" "Because, you idiot, it would hurt more!"
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Tyson Tomko posted:You'd think for being specific as he was about Ferengi genitals (the shape!) that he would have also included the trademark "Hew-MON" pronunciation. So that being said, I give mega credit to the actor/director/writer/etc who originally decided that that would be a cool thing to say. Yeah what was up with that? Were Ferengi universal translators defective?
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Or they were just being dicks. Like when we used to call them the Roo-skies
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They're being assholes when they say it. Like a slur. How much emphasis they put on pronouncing it that way depends on how offensive they're trying to sound. Nog barely says it that way, for example, and they don't pronounce it that way at all several times while talking amongst themselves.
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Tyson Tomko posted:I do think it would have been pretty cool if they did something with the "even the slowest Ferengi could outdraw Wyatt Earp" stuff. It would be amazing for a bunch of greedy snivling little Ferengis to be able to whip out some anime style speed and zip around people without even trying. I dunno man. You're trying to talk us out of a world where the Magnificent Ferengi makes sense. I don't know if I want to live in that world. I think one of the things I love about lovely pop culture stuff is the kind of slow-burn character work that comes precisely when your starting point is "Gene describes a physical superpower and an alien penis." It's sort of like one of the good X-Men runs taking a Stan Lee fever dream like Cyclops and making his marriage fail because he's refused to have a personality for 30 years. Artists thrive with limitations and all that.
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Speaking of Gene "The chief medical officer of the flagship of the fleet is going to be the kind of brilliant doctor and outstanding professional who could land such a plum assignment. Okay now first, she walks like a stripper at all times"
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Apr 11, 2015 02:32
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Picard has the evolved sensibilities of a man with no bias or prejudice towards anyone for any variable about who they are. But he has such a megaboner for the stripper doctor that he violates every protocol there is to impress her so he can bang her.
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Apr 11, 2015 02:52
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The original backstory had Picard personally killing Jack Crusher, laughing the whole while.
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In my head cannon, Picard and Jack both wanted Bev, but they flipped on it and Jack won. Years later, they're both upset with how it turned out, so they decide the only way to settle it is to have sex with each other until someone dies. To the victor goes the spoils. Picard's roboheart was his ace in the hole
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No, guys, she's not a stripper, she's a striptease queen. Gene has many times been used as a sex object and enjoyed it each time. On an unrelated note, I'm reading the Vonnegut novel where the Chinese all shrink themselves to be smaller than a thumb in order to conserve resources and become beings of perfect intellect. Is it wrong that even as I post this here, I kind of want to give him a pass for that, since he was America's adorable curmudgeonly grandpa?
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But if you shrink yourself down, you'd still require just as much resources, except also shrunk down!
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Sash! posted:Picard has the evolved sensibilities of a man with no bias or prejudice towards anyone for any variable about who they are. Also he's a huge racist who takes every opportunity to tell anyone who will listen that France civilized the barbarians and they should be grateful. Humanity's united future!
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Apollodorus posted:J.P. Hansen
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Sash! posted:But if you shrink yourself down, you'd still require just as much resources, except also shrunk down! It might be political theater. No one truly understands Vonnegut's Chinese.
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Tyson Tomko posted:I do think it would have been pretty cool if they did something with the "even the slowest Ferengi could outdraw Wyatt Earp" stuff. It would be amazing for a bunch of greedy snivling little Ferengis to be able to whip out some anime style speed and zip around people without even trying. Yeah, instead, they just came off as twitchy and ratlike. Their fur outfits and lovely posture in their first appearances just furthered the ~degenerate animal~ vibe.
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betaraywil posted:No, guys, she's not a stripper, she's a striptease queen. There are worse crazy things than that waiting for you in there. Like, crazy weird gross things. Waiting for you.
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