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Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

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El Gallinero Gros posted:

Is the story anywhere close to the quality of covers? I mean I'd imagine not given Nick Spencer's spottiness as a writer. I do like the premise.

The flashbacks are a bit weird in parts, but the tone is very disquieting. The series is a take on Batman and Bedlam is meant to be a city like Gotham would be if the madness spread out of Arkham Asylum. The interior art is a lot different to the covers, but it fits that overarching mood of psychological disturbance. I'd recommend trying the first issue and seeing where you go from there.

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Street Soldier
Oct 28, 2005

An egotistical being like myself can't be allowed to live...


Would you believe me if I told you this isn't Liefeld?

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


That line work is far too clean for liefeld.

Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT MY DOG
Also there are not enough teeth.

Karnegal
Dec 24, 2005

Is it... safe?

Street Soldier posted:



Would you believe me if I told you this isn't Liefeld?

The shading/angles on the demon dude's torso are confusing as hell. It's like looking at a loving Escher paitning.

Shameless
Dec 22, 2004

We're all so ugly and stupid and doomed.

Street Soldier posted:



Would you believe me if I told you this isn't Liefeld?

Deodato or Benes if I had to guess

Waterhaul
Nov 5, 2005


it was a nice post,
you shouldn't have signed it.



Yeah that's full on Benes, nothing like Liefeld.

Hackers film 1995
Nov 4, 2009

Hack the planet!

It looks like a bad tattoo.

redbackground
Sep 24, 2007

BEHOLD!
OPTIC BLAST!
Grimey Drawer

Shameless posted:

Deodato or Benes if I had to guess
It's the first page from Artemis: Requiem, by Messner-Loebs, with Benes on art (it's a nightmare Artemis is having (about WW, not having Benes on art)). It really doesn't look much like Liefeld at all, and if anything points much more at mid-90s Deodato, who was a geographical and artistic contemporary, and who had literally just finished up his run on WW with M-L (which the comicbook world went fuckin' nuts for at the time). I want to say Benes was actually mentored by Deodato--they did at least work together at Deodato's studio.

Also, once you recognize Benes butt, you can't unsee it. That lonnnnnng, lightly-curved hip is a dead giveaway.

redbackground fucked around with this message at 16:20 on Apr 10, 2015

Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT MY DOG
Somewhere in there, there is supposed to be some kind of bone I think?

Madkal
Feb 11, 2008

Fallen Rib

Street Soldier posted:



Would you believe me if I told you this isn't Liefeld?

Which way is her torso facing?

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


redbackground posted:

Also, once you recognize Benes butt, you can't unsee it. That lonnnnnng, lightly-curved hip is a dead giveaway.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n747ktceuwI&t=1881s

redbackground
Sep 24, 2007

BEHOLD!
OPTIC BLAST!
Grimey Drawer
:aslol:

haitfais
Aug 7, 2005

I am offended by your ham, sir.

Madkal posted:

Which way is her torso facing?

Yes.

Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT MY DOG
Deplorable bullshit by Greg Horn



Who knew Spidey was a gigantic creep?



What the gently caress is even going on here aside from it being a tracing/photo manip of some random porn idk I can't even parse it

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Spidey floating in a white void while photographing people through windows isn't nearly as confusing as whatever is going on in the Emma Frost picture. Everywhere I look I see something that hurts my brain. Look at that tiny fence she's sitting on. What's holding those "panties" in place? Is Big Ben leaning? Pretty sure torsos aren't shaped like that. Etc.

It's like one of those "Spot the differences" things except there's over 1000 answers.

Lurdiak fucked around with this message at 11:08 on Apr 11, 2015

Elfface
Nov 14, 2010

Da-na-na-na-na-na-na
IRON JONAH

Flesh Forge posted:

Deplorable bullshit by Greg Horn



Who knew Spidey was a gigantic creep?



What the gently caress is even going on here aside from it being a tracing/photo manip of some random porn idk I can't even parse it

In my mind, these two are related. Spidey is a creep, and takes the cover photos for the pinup covers.

Caveman Cat
Oct 20, 2012

         MAJOR

Flesh Forge posted:

Deplorable bullshit by Greg Horn

The other Greg Land.

Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT MY DOG

Lurdiak posted:

Spidey floating in a white void while photographing people through windows isn't nearly as confusing as whatever is going on in the Emma Frost picture. Everywhere I look I see something that hurts my brain. Look at that tiny fence she's sitting on. What's holding those "panties" in place? Is Big Ben leaning? Pretty sure torsos aren't shaped like that. Etc.

It's like one of those "Spot the differences" things except there's over 1000 answers.

how is she even staying in that position unless some kind of support post is jammed up her vagina holding her there :confused:

why are her feet amorphous blobs

e: He's just so loving lovely, when you look at the hands they're highly detailed (he took a photo ref and just smudged it a bit to make it less obvious) but the leg anatomy and the feet are just what the gently caress, smear some poo poo around nobody's gonna be looking at her feet while jerking off to this :effort:

Flesh Forge fucked around with this message at 12:04 on Apr 11, 2015

Mr. Squishy
Mar 22, 2010

A country where you can always get richer.

Lurdiak posted:

Spidey floating in a white void while photographing people through windows isn't nearly as confusing as whatever is going on in the Emma Frost picture. Everywhere I look I see something that hurts my brain. Look at that tiny fence she's sitting on. What's holding those "panties" in place? Is Big Ben leaning? Pretty sure torsos aren't shaped like that. Etc.

Flesh Forge posted:

how is she even staying in that position unless some kind of support post is jammed up her vagina holding her there :confused:

why are her feet amorphous blobs

Look at these goofuses who've forgotton she's a mutant, and has mutant powers.

Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT MY DOG
Hi I'm Emma Frost and my mutant power is a super sticky crotch

Mr. Squishy
Mar 22, 2010

A country where you can always get richer.
My secondary mutation are little pin feet which are really hard to walk on but super easy to draw. Good thing I just sorta float everywhere instead!

Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT MY DOG
I can also make impossible edge lighting appear on parts of my body that are obviously in shadow, which is totally not an artifact of being traced from a Poser render done with shadows off

10 Beers
May 21, 2005

Shit! I didn't bring a knife.

Flesh Forge posted:

Hi I'm Emma Frost and my mutant power is a super sticky crotch

:golfclap: Merciful gods, you just made me laugh at loud at work. Thank you!

bobkatt013
Oct 8, 2006

You’re telling me Peter Parker is ...... Spider-man!?
What are you all talking about?

Lightning Lord
Feb 21, 2013

$200 a day, plus expenses

Milk? Milk!

wayfinder
Jul 7, 2003
Let's play a game: it's called "Where's Batman's left foot?"


Edit: Jesus the perspective(s) are wonky as poo poo, not even the newspaper and the ground it's lying on exist in the same plane

wayfinder fucked around with this message at 19:01 on Apr 11, 2015

davidspackage
May 16, 2007

Nap Ghost

Flesh Forge posted:

Deplorable bullshit by Greg Horn



Who knew Spidey was a gigantic creep?

The numbers on Spidey's camera don't make any sense for a camera that size. I guess that's pedantic, but maybe check that before you stick them on so prominently.

Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT MY DOG
You ever notice how there's almost no sketch art/work in progress pieces by Greg Horn, and when it is it's stuff very obviously done to prove he totally does not just do photo manips:



im the wildly mismatched lighting on her body and face

Lightning Lord
Feb 21, 2013

$200 a day, plus expenses

Greg Horny

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



Flesh Forge posted:

You ever notice how there's almost no sketch art/work in progress pieces by Greg Horn, and when it is it's stuff very obviously done to prove he totally does not just do photo manips:



im the wildly mismatched lighting on her body and face

Um?

https://www.google.com/search?site=...764.F0LwYstMnKs

Red Bones
Aug 9, 2012

"I think he's a bad enough person to stay ghost through his sheer love of child-killing."




Are all these women meant to look the same?

wayfinder
Jul 7, 2003
This really really makes me wanna find the exact porn shoot it came from

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

Remember now there is no such thing as pinup or softcore wank material in mainstream superhero comics and any acknowledgement of such must be met with dozens of arguments about how all the men are idealized forms too and thus there is no such thing as pinup or softcore wank material in mainstream superhero comics.

Mr. Squishy
Mar 22, 2010

A country where you can always get richer.
Psylocke's neck.

fatherboxx
Mar 25, 2013

mind the walrus posted:

Remember now there is no such thing as pinup or softcore wank material in mainstream superhero comics and any acknowledgement of such must be met with dozens of arguments about how all the men are idealized forms too and thus there is no such thing as pinup or softcore wank material in mainstream superhero comics.

The 90s superhero swimsuit specials are kind of endearing because they were equal-opportunity to male/female cheesecake and presented a wonderful world of consensual pleasures. No deaths or grudges, only abs and butts.

Teenage Fansub
Jan 28, 2006

fatherboxx posted:

The 90s superhero swimsuit specials are kind of endearing because they were equal-opportunity to male/female cheesecake and presented a wonderful world of consensual pleasures. No deaths or grudges, only abs and butts.



Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT MY DOG

Ok now search for 'Ed Benes sketch" "John Romita Jr. sketch" or heck even "Greg Land sketch" and see if you notice something.

Late Unpleasantness
Mar 26, 2008

s m o k e d

Flesh Forge posted:

im the wildly mismatched lighting on her body and face

Yeah. Flipped her head:



which fixes the shading but nothing else about the cover.

So the photo head was flipped before tracing/coloring because "googled sexy alice in wonderland, must change something"

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Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT MY DOG
NICE, I actually thought it was cropped in from a different photo or just possibly, maybe, he drew it freehand, I didn't think he was quite that lazy :allears:

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