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HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:Millions in small dollars though. I'm not saying Rand Paul's going to have a war chest of $50 million, but people are going to give him money. My point is that those people are going to donate to the campaign directly, not the SuperPAC. They don't need to donate to the SuperPAC if they're under the limit. Edit: And for what it's worth, Rand Paul's first money bomb has been hilariously lackluster compared to Ron. Ron raised $6 million 24 hours. Rand is under $2m in the first few days.
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Concerned Citizen posted:Yeah, but most of Ron Paul's donations were small dollar. SuperPACs are meant to generate money from big donors over the limits. I can't see Rand getting a lot of wealthy, institutional support. He's anti tax, right? He only needs one billionaire.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:He's anti tax, right? He only needs one billionaire. He can always ask that Tim Draper loon who was behind the failed Six Californias initiative. e: does Randy accept donations in bitcoin? This is all I gotta know
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Apr 12, 2015 00:07
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Jerry Manderbilt posted:He can always ask that Tim Draper loon who was behind the failed Six Californias initiative. Yes, he does. http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/10/us/politics/in-accepting-bitcoin-rand-paul-raises-money-and-questions.html
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Jerry Manderbilt posted:e: does Randy accept donations in bitcoin? This is all I gotta know As if this were ever in question.
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Hollismason posted:Ugh I wish there was anyone else but Hillary was running , because if anything her running is going to energize the rights base even more, she's about as charismatic as a board. Is that why she's loved by 81% of the base, triple any other potential nominee? The base love her, we don't. Aurubin posted:I would hope the vitriol would be devoted to the fact that Jindal was burning Louisiana to the ground while it simultaneously sinks beneath the waves, but racism is easier I suppose. Oh yeah, look at all the times posters have continually made fun of JIndal by way of the fact that he's Indian. with posts like
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Chamale posted:I really want to deface one of Rand's bumper magnets into "DEFEAT THE WASHING MACHINE" and slap it on my washer, but I also don't want to give Rand Paul any money. I have an Anus King bumper sticker somewhere from when he ran for governor once upon a time
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Fulchrum posted:Is that why she's loved by 81% of the base, triple any other potential nominee? With posts like the dude calling him Bhabi.
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Hollismason posted:Ugh I wish there was anyone else but Hillary was running , because if anything her running is going to energize the rights base even more, she's about as charismatic as a board. The murderous socialist christian white woman is going to rile the Republicans up more than the treasonous muslim communist tyrant black man? If anything I'd expect the net result to be more racist fuckers who would have voted D except for the black muslim athiest now voting D. There is no silent Republican voter tsunami withholding it's vote. Republicans always vote, it's the Democrats who you have to convince to come out to the polls. Also while Obama terrifies Jim Webb Democrats, who don't have an issue with Hillary, the "Obama minorities" aren't scared of Hillary at all.
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Jerry Manderbilt posted:He can always ask that Tim Draper loon who was behind the failed Six Californias initiative. He's in luck, Tim Draper is also into bitcoins!
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I cant wait until we see the eventual headlines about the Rand Paul staffer who has to redeem the bitcoins in a usable currency but has to settle for Bed, Bath, & Beyond gift cards he exchanged in an Arby's parking lot, only to discover they were never activated with a value.
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Neeksy posted:I cant wait until we see the eventual headlines about the Rand Paul staffer who has to redeem the bitcoins in a usable currency but has to settle for Bed, Bath, & Beyond gift cards he exchanged in an Arby's parking lot, only to discover they were never activated with a value.
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SNAKES N CAKES posted:It's not that surprising. What Me Worry?
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Apr 12, 2015 01:47
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When people donate bitcoins to the Paul campaign, do they have to exchange them immediately, or can they hold on to them and try to fund the campaign partly through currency speculation?
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Apr 12, 2015 01:47
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None of those people care about inner cities except as rhetorical devices for oblique remarks on inherent racial differences.
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Chantilly Say posted:When people donate bitcoins to the Paul campaign, do they have to exchange them immediately, or can they hold on to them and try to fund the campaign partly through currency speculation? I think they have to sell them within a couple weeks, IIRC.
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Bitcoin have to be cashed out before they're put in a campaign account under FEC rules, so no HODLing.
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showbiz_liz posted:I also think this would be pretty delightful but they will never in a million years allow this to happen. MAYBE with a Democratic supermajority in both houses. Reminder that Michelle Obama apparently hates living in DC and even if Clinton would want him on the SCOTUS Michelle would either kill him or divorce him. They all want to head back to Hawaii and the bigass house that's waiting for them there. Not remain in lovely DC. eternalname posted:Probably would have lost in '08 I don't think you fathom just how badly Clinton would've walked all over McCain in a debate. Let alone the woodshed-grade beatings he'd have given Bushjr in 2000. Palin and Gore debates would've been pretty terrible. Gore's almost as bad to listen to as Kerry and Palin is Palin.
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Chantilly Say posted:When people donate bitcoins to the Paul campaign, do they have to exchange them immediately, or can they hold on to them and try to fund the campaign partly through currency speculation? That is, if they even CAN exchange them. Didn't Bitcoin's exchange system basically come to a screeching halt when someone opened so much as a single online gambling site using them, and the volume of transactions hit like 1% of what a normal currency would have?
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Liberals shouldn't want Obama on the Supreme Court anyway. I have a feeling his thoughts on executive power have changed slightly in the last decade or so.
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Joementum posted:I'm the old white guy wearing a short sleeve shirt and khakis with my arms crossed at a Rand Paul rally. Does Joe contradict himself? Very well then, he contradicts himself. Joe contains multitudes  On another note, good God look at all these honkies at these Rand rallies. Not that I don't know perfectly well why that's so, but the visual confirmation of the fact is still a bit unsettling  Winkie01 posted:brianmrosenthal · 2m 2 minutes ago This is all going to end in a very special episode of Dr. Phil, isn't it
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Joementum posted:Bitcoin have to be cashed out before they're put in a campaign account under FEC rules, so no HODLing. I'm slightly confused, how is this blocking them from holding? Bitcoins will be in encrypted wallets (which really by any measure shouldn't qualify as accounts), and it's not like they're going to find a way to spend them straight up. What's stopping them just not selling?
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icantfindaname posted:That is, if they even CAN exchange them. Didn't Bitcoin's exchange system basically come to a screeching halt when someone opened so much as a single online gambling site using them, and the volume of transactions hit like 1% of what a normal currency would have? The Paul campaign is undoubtedly using one of the services like Coinbase or Bitpay that are set up to allow immediate cashouts for businesses, either because they're burning through VC money or are an obvious front for money laundering and use the business side as a fig leaf.
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Dancer posted:I'm slightly confused, how is this blocking them from holding? Bitcoins will be in encrypted wallets (which really by any measure shouldn't qualify as accounts), and it's not like they're going to find a way to spend them straight up. What's stopping them just not selling? I meant that the bitcoin have to be exchanged for dollars immediately as FEC rules don't allow campaigns to hold non-dollar reserves.
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Joementum posted:I meant that the bitcoin have to be exchanged for dollars immediately as FEC rules don't allow campaigns to hold non-dollar reserves. Bitcoins aren't currency though, if I donated some of my Rembrandts to a campaign, would they have to cash them out immediately, or could they hang on to them until they had a particularly big expense?
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sullat posted:Bitcoins aren't currency though, if I donated some of my Rembrandts to a campaign, would they have to cash them out immediately, or could they hang on to them until they had a particularly big expense? OK, having read the FEC opinion, it seems like the campaign could HODL the bitcoin for as long as they want, but they are prohibited from spending them on campaign activities, goods, or services. To do that, they need to convert the bitcoin into dollars, deposit those dollars into their campaign fund, and then spend the dollars from their fund on the campaign activity. I would assume an in-kind donation of artwork would work the same way. Small point: the FEC opinion does treat bitcoin as a currency.
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Rand Paul: "The War on Drugs has created a culture of violence and puts police in an impossible situation.” Rand Paul Pledges to 'Immediately' End NSA Mass Surveillance If Elected President Well, I guess we're lucky that Rand al'Paul is such an obvious fuckup to everyone on Wonkette and on here, and that the establishment hates him so much. All I can say is that I don't think you'll see a single other candidate take these positions, and that they are popular with a lot of people. So, maybe much like Bernie Sanders, the unelectability of the candidate will overpower the candidate's unique platform on popular issues. poo poo, there must have been as many Obama petitions to legalize cannabis as there were GOP attempts to cancel Obamacare. And saying you'll shut down the NSA? poo poo doesn't even have to be true, everyone's freaking out about how they're being spied on.
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Can't see any reason not to register Republican and try and get him as the nominee. He's the best case scenario among the current Republicans and the Democratic primary is going to be a joke.
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That's just standard Paul. Completely reasonable and agreeable for a maximum of 5 minutes, and then he's talking about using drones to gun down liquor store robbers.
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Gyges posted:That's just standard Paul. Completely reasonable and agreeable for a maximum of 5 minutes, and then he's talking about using drones to gun down liquor store robbers. Yeah, if he could just avoid the chewy chunks of degradation and the "Two-headed Martian" defense, he'd look pretty good. But that fuckin crazy is a genetic thing, and he just can't help it. If he WERE to make it to be the nominee, all the grudging Republican lever-pullers would still grit their teeth and vote against Shrillary to "save America", but this rear end in a top hat could actually pull in the coveted loving reddit demographic. It's a total pipe dream, but who else actually has out-of-base appeal? Only Tea Partiers like Cruz, and they're basey as gently caress. Who the gently caress even likes Walker? There's not even a real evangelical out there who can pull what Santorum tried in 2012. How hosed up is it when Rand, Son of Ron is the candidate with the broadest out-of-base appeal?
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FuriousxGeorge posted:Can't see any reason not to register Republican and try and get him as the nominee. He's the best case scenario among the current Republicans and the Democratic primary is going to be a joke. if you're playing the Worst Possible Nominee game you might as well vote for ted cruz or carly fiorina or Donald Trump
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PupsOfWar posted:if you're playing the Worst Possible Nominee game you might as well vote for ted cruz or carly fiorina I'd rather have the least worst of the bunch to mitigate the damage if they win rather than bring on the Cruzpocalypse.
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PupsOfWar posted:if you're playing the Worst Possible Nominee game you might as well vote for ted cruz or carly fiorina I'm looking for a combination of "Worst Possible Outcomes if Elected" and "Most Electable". Who you got for me?
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Quidam Viator posted:I'm looking for a combination of "Worst Possible Outcomes if Elected" and "Most Electable". Who you got for me? Wait for 2020, elect President Tom Cotton and Vice President Allen West Voting for an electable republican in 2016 gets you 4-8 years of milquetoast conservative rule that will range between dubya (at the low end) and aitchdubya (at the high end), likely followed by peaceful transition of power to a democrat and a battered-but-probably-still-functional nation. I think this is not ideal for your apocalyptic goals. Whereas if you wait 'til 2020, then use anti-hillary backlash to elect the Cotton/West ticket, you could be bathing in atomic hellfire in just five short years. PupsOfWar fucked around with this message at 05:37 on Apr 12, 2015 |
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