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Rivensteel posted:Maybe I'm being naive, but how can a PAC for a candidate possibly have a live interview/statement from that candidate without there being any coordination? Even if this was a Super PAC that can't coordinate publicly, they'd be able to do cute things like have the campaign upload a video of Jeb to a "public" Youtube account with a username like qwertyuiop123456 and the PAC could just happen to "find" that video and decide to use it in its ads.
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tsa posted:I've seen some things that suggest it but the studies always make a lot of dubious assumptions. I'm not even sure what "naturally higher" can even be shown convincingly, there's way too many variables going on. Ignoring that, the point is republican turnout isn't a guarantee like some are suggesting, It's more than that. Voter turnout is one of the easiest things to model, because the information on who votes and who doesn't is public record. It can be shown convincingly, because I have seen and worked with the models that the data vendors on the Dem side put out. Given the voter file, I can assign a probability score (0-100) that rates your % chance of voting in any given election with a very high level of accuracy. The probability of a GOP-leaner going to the polls is substantially higher because their demographic is the one that votes at much higher levels than everyone else. 2006 is probably the sole example of low GOP turnout. 2008 had phenomenally high turnout for everyone. There were just a lot of crossover GOP votes for Obama, as well as very high turnout among first time and marginal voters. In a Presidential year, it's extremely unlikely that GOP voters will stay home regardless of who is the nominee. Especially after 8 years of Obama. High GOP turn out is basically as much of a given as anything is in politics. Concerned Citizen fucked around with this message at 18:56 on Apr 12, 2015 |
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Young Hegelian posted:So defend Hillary as the person who controls the balance of a divided Senate, all administrative agencies, and any Supreme Court replacements. She starts to look a lot less like a "lesser evil" in that light. The Supreme Court is important especially since there will be judges retiring in the next 8 (and probably 4) years. Ginsberg is 82, and a few others are also pushing 80. SCOTUS is already 5-4 in favour of conservative policy in many respects.
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John Dough posted:The Supreme Court is important especially since there will be judges retiring in the next 8 (and probably 4) years. Ginsberg is 82, and a few others are also pushing 80. SCOTUS is already 5-4 in favour of conservative policy in many respects. Absolutely. Kennedy is the only reason that abortion is still legal at all, another Alito would end it. I like to emphasize the administrative agencies as well. Obama's NLRB is the most worker-friendly since the 1960s, and I think Clinton would be likely to continue that.
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It would really suck to make it into your forties without anybody telling you that you lick your lips all the time.
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Is Hillary's announcement as epic a gently caress-up as it looks like from a non-American, or is it standard fare?
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SedanChair posted:It would really suck to make it into your forties without anybody telling you that you lick your lips all the time. It's because they're chapped from all that big money fundraising.
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FAUXTON posted:It's because they're chapped from all that big money fundraising. Stop licking them Marco you're just going to make them more chapped!!
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ufarn posted:Is Hillary's announcement as epic a gently caress-up as it looks like from a non-American, or is it standard fare? In what sense is it an "epic gently caress up"?
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Well her site is up and running http://hillaryclinton.com/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uY7gLZDmn4
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Vertical Lime posted:Well her site is up and running  I mean...er...go Clinton! Am I doing this right?
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So Hillary v5.0 still has that feature for trolling the media? E: its cute how all the campaigns think they need a logo these days and most of them are garbage.
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Hillary, let's move to the right!
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Joementum posted:In what sense is it an "epic gently caress up"?
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Was that made in MSPaint or something because it's all hosed up from compression.
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The timeline on the Hillary facebook page is interesting in terms of what's included. https://www.facebook.com/hillaryclinton?_rdr Nothing from 1998-2000, a lot from her time as Secretary of State. She includes her endorsement of Obama, and her appointment to the task force on healthcare in the Clinton administration. Doesn't include her stint as a Goldwater Girl or her work on the Nixon impeachment, sadly.
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Why do I think it's a Fedex logo without the hidden stuff
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Drastic Actions posted:Also in ASCII Alright, that's cute. FAUXTON posted:Was that made in MSPaint or something because it's all hosed up from compression. This is a screenshot of a screen grab from Twitter I saved to my phone and re uploaded to imgur, so yeah, it's probably not the greatest quality. Print it out and take a Polaroid and you've got peak nineties Clinton going on.
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ufarn posted:Maybe journos are just relaying it in their own confused way, but it just sounds like it's been a series of announcements of announcements with a lot of delays and confusions. Then again, DC reporters are notoriously impatient. It's mostly that some of their sources aren't as high up in the Clinton organization as they claimed and the reporters got mad that they sat hitting f5 on twitter on a nice afternoon because they were gullible and trusted what the campaign mail clerk was feeding them. Joementum fucked around with this message at 20:22 on Apr 12, 2015 |
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Vertical Lime posted:Well her site is up and running This video is already better than anything her 2008 campaign put out  (This is obviously mostly a tribal affiliation thing - this video completely embraces the Obama coalition, whereas Hillary 2008 was all about keeping the Obama coalition at bay.)
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Vertical Lime posted:Well her site is up and running hmmmmmmm 
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The website does not work well with my High resolution Ultra widescreen monitor Let's make this a windowed image...  Ehhhh, the first one's better.
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So many takes. And "jokes". And hashtags. Already. 
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And to think, we're less than 24 hours out from the Marco Rubio announcement. We truly live in exciting times.
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Looking forward to the conservative spluttering about the gay couple talking about getting married and the lesbian couple snuggling in Hill's annoucement video 
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Pyrolocutus posted:Looking forward to the conservative spluttering about the gay couple talking about getting married and the lesbian couple snuggling in Hill's annoucement video I really like that she just took the ball and shoved it in their faces. She didn't even run with it, she just made them eat it. This is going to be great.
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Vertical Lime posted:Well her site is up and running I think I prefer this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfU3hI8ML30 That's not high praise for your announcement video Hillary. 
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Is everyone ready for Hillary? I am.
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Joementum posted:And to think, we're less than 24 hours out from the Marco Rubio announcement. We truly live in exciting times. Our times will never be as exciting as they should be until Trump and Palin make a joint announcement.
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One of the best thing about Hillary is how much the GOP hates her, good enough reason for me to vote for her well that and SCOTUS.
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Didn't parts of Hillary's diary from college get released at one point? I've been googling but I can't find anything about it. Her twitter description is well crafted: quote:Wife, mom, grandma, women+kids advocate, FLOTUS, Senator, SecState, hair icon, pantsuit aficionado, 2016 presidential candidate.
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Joementum posted:Ted Cruz, in what appears to be his bunker, announces that he's ready for Hillary. the Furorbunker
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