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The characters are 100 percent real. The situations are 100 percent real. What isn't real is that, as Solice Kirsk said, these situations happening over and over to the same group of people and them not ending up dead, arrested, in prison, fired, etc is not. But it's no different than say The Shield, The Wire, Castle, Law and Order, or even Seinfeld. It's interesting to me that the one thing they get a little loosey goosey with is how people talk. Yes, everyone has an extremely heavy accent, but season 2 really nailed how...flowery and formal...people in the hills talk. It's very Shakespearean in a way because people learn to read and write from the Bible as it's the most consistently available book to people in those communities.
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Schiavona posted:Can anyone (Beeb, I guess) who actually lives in the backwoods tell me if hill people are a real thing? They 100% are. I've lived in Kentucky for 31 years. I've never lived in Harlan or eastern Kentucky, but I've visited a lot for family and friends. Hill people are most certainly a thing. A close friend's relatives lived on the mountain in eastern Kentucky, and his uncle and grandfather refused to go anywhere except the the tiny "town" at the bottom of the mountain. They said they had all they needed on the mountain, and they didn't have any need for cities or the folk therein. In all fairness, though, once they accept you, they're some of the nicest and kindest drat people ever. Phenotype posted:I mean, honest to God "we'll kill you if we see you near our land" crazy hill people? In that last ep, that wasn't even their land, but there's still a half dozen of them waiting to ambush and kill anyone who wanders past? What is the motivation or belief structure that leads to that? Oh yeah. If you're not from around those parts, as it were, you'd be well advised to not take any random trips through the woods. If you're in the town, or a gas station, something like that, it's not as big a deal. But for god's sake, don't roam around. Part of it is yes, some of these folks are growing weed, running moonshine stills, hunting out of season, etc. They don't trust outsiders, and they have no love for governmental authority. If killing you means that they know you're not going report them and they keep government agents away from them, they will absolutely kill you without a second thought. Another factor is, even if it doesn't technically all belong to them, they see it as their land. Some of these people can legitimately trace their family roots back through the same area for 200 years. They work the land, live off it, trade or buy only what they need, and live their lives as they see fit. They keep to themselves, and want outsiders to keep to themselves. It's like Mags said in Season 2, they all have their own ways of doing things, and anyone who tries to come in and change that isn't welcome. It's not really embellished. The people really are like that. For example, when I went with my friend's family to visit their relatives in Hazard, KY, they took their new puppy with them. We were around 14 or so. The puppy ran off, and we were all out looking for him. Eventually my friend's mom found it nailed to a tree with a note around it's neck that said "Keep the hell away from our fields", or something along those lines. We didn't see the note, but someone took it to the aforementioned uncle and grandfather on the mountain who said that they would settle things and make it right. So yeah, the depiction is fairly realistic. 10 Beers fucked around with this message at 16:05 on Apr 10, 2015 |
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Apr 10, 2015 15:46
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If I win the lottery, I am hiring Goggins and Olyphant to recreate all the insult sword fighting parts of the monkey island series.
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Apr 10, 2015 15:58
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Dammit, quote is not edit.
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Apr 10, 2015 16:04
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Geniasis posted:And probably the timeline. How long has it been in-universe? Like a year tops, I think Well a bit more than that, given that Raylan and Winona have a baby and everything, but at some point the stated timeline was certainly absurd.
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Apr 10, 2015 18:10
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I just realized we're only going to Never Leave Harlan Alive one more time and it depressed the gently caress out of me.
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Apr 10, 2015 19:08
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Rhyno posted:I just realized we're only going to Never Leave Harlan Alive one more time and it depressed the gently caress out of me. I'm more bummed out that episode 13's title is almost definitely referring to the song. Jonas Albrecht fucked around with this message at 20:21 on Apr 10, 2015 |
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Apr 10, 2015 19:29
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Phenotype posted:I mean, honest to God "we'll kill you if we see you near our land" crazy hill people? Yes. Phenotype posted:What is the motivation or belief structure that leads to that? Illegal activities, heritage, gently caress you I'll do what I want because I loving can and I've done it before and local law either doesn't give a poo poo or is related to me or both. Tide posted:Nope, it's really not embellished at all. The motivation is simple: this is my land, you are a stranger*, you might want to kill me so I am going to kill you first. Accurate. Last year I got swept with a shotgun from my next door neighbor because I was quietly plinking away with a .22 in the backyard, not near their property. Could've shot me and very little if anything would've happened to them, what with family in local law and me being a transplant. In happier more show related news, I was getting serious Bullock vibes when Raylan was pondering what that dirty cop would be like missing his teeth. 
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Apr 10, 2015 19:46
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Capn Beeb posted:Last year I got swept with a shotgun from my next door neighbor because I was quietly plinking away with a .22 in the backyard, not near their property. Are you in the market for a new house yet?
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Apr 10, 2015 20:16
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Kinda/sorta, I may have a tentative out but nothing is set in stone and I'm very good at jinxing myself.
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Apr 10, 2015 20:53
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Rhyno posted:I just realized we're only going to Never Leave Harlan Alive one more time and it depressed the gently caress out of me. 
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Apr 10, 2015 22:17
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I see these kind of people all the time. Mountain Dew Mouth is an actual problem. They'll put it in baby bottles cause it's cheaper than milk. Kentucky is a crazy little state. http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2013/09/12/221845853/mountain-dew-mouth-is-destroying-appalachias-teeth
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Apr 10, 2015 22:43
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Invalid Validation posted:I see these kind of people all the time. Mountain Dew Mouth is an actual problem. They'll put it in baby bottles cause it's cheaper than milk. Kentucky is a crazy little state. Urgh, that is a literal joke from Idiocracy playing out in reality. It never ceases to amaze me how many dumb things people can do.
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Apr 10, 2015 22:57
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NowonSA posted:Urgh, that is a literal joke from Idiocracy playing out in reality. It never ceases to amaze me how many dumb things people can do. The only reason why Ow, My Balls! isn't a real TV show is because we can get it at whim on YouTube.
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Apr 10, 2015 22:59
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They really need to use the Patty Loveless version for this one.
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Apr 11, 2015 00:14
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I might have asked this before but for the life of me I can't remember, what does a "holler" refer to?
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Apr 11, 2015 02:01
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BlindSite posted:I might have asked this before but for the life of me I can't remember, what does a "holler" refer to? It's a valley in the hills. Same as "hollow", just a colloquialism.
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Apr 11, 2015 02:09
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You took this photo before you had finished scrolling to the Ruby Friedman version right?
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Apr 11, 2015 04:24
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gently caress Brad Paisley and everything he stands for.
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Apr 11, 2015 04:27
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JohnSherman posted:You took this photo before you had finished scrolling to the Ruby Friedman version right? #8, second from the top. Is there another one?
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mcbexx posted:#8, second from the top. It was a bad joke about how he had his pointer over the Brad Paisley version instead of Friedman's, which is the only version worth listening to.
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Apr 11, 2015 13:44
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So this week is the series finale right?
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Apr 11, 2015 19:10
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Alan Sepinwall has posted a couple of times in the past couple of days that any fan who has a chance to rewatch the pilot before the finale will be "rewarded" by doing so. Hmm.
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Apr 11, 2015 19:56
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ClydeUmney posted:Alan Sepinwall has posted a couple of times in the past couple of days that any fan who has a chance to rewatch the pilot before the finale will be "rewarded" by doing so.
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Apr 11, 2015 20:28
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Medullah posted:So this week is the series finale right? Yup. 
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ClydeUmney posted:Alan Sepinwall has posted a couple of times in the past couple of days that any fan who has a chance to rewatch the pilot before the finale will be "rewarded" by doing so. Well, that's what I did today. It kind of made me want to start watching the series over again. I was also reminded that I completely forgot about Winona's husband as a character and what a total weenie he was. It'll be interesting to see what callbacks they go to.
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TheAngryDrunk posted:Well, that's what I did today. It kind of made me want to start watching the series over again. I was going to say that it seemed like they were doing the ending I'd always thought they would, with a recreation of that final scene of the pilot (And ending it the way it was always intended to). But with reading Sepinwall's tweet I can't see that being the 'rewarding' part he's talking about, since I think everyone watching will pick up on that. I just wouldn't be surprised if it generally echoes/mirrors the pilot in a lot of ways.
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Apr 12, 2015 09:10
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I could see Markham giving Raylon 24 hrs to leave Harlan County.
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Apr 12, 2015 17:14
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Hopefully Raylan's Miami suit make an appearance in the finale.
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Apr 12, 2015 17:24
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Ava did drop Dewey's gator-tooth necklace right before Markham's cops hauled her away. And as I recall, in the pilot Raylan took notice of them the first time he met Dewey.
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If, like me, you may not have time to watch the premiere over again, the IMDb has a detailed scene-by-scene recap of it here.
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The finale is just gonna be every character talking non-stop about Tommy Bucks, like in the pilot.
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Apr 12, 2015 18:32
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All this talk about Dewey Crow just reminds me of how much I miss Ellie May.
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Yeah I expect the pilot tie-in will be 24 hours to get out of town (Raylan probably has about 24 hours left on the deadline Art gave him), Dewey's necklace, or a parallel to Boyd and Raylan at the table with Raylan killing Boyd this time, maybe with one shot subduing him and then a bullet to the head.
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Irish Joe posted:Ellie May. This really is this show's version of Jessie/Skylar.
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I also did a pilot rewatch. There are a lot of little lines that tug at my emotions, knowing how dark things would eventually get. Namely Ava's "I knew everything would be okay when you walked in, Raylan".
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Raylan's going to catch up to those cops and it's going to be amazing.
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User-Friendly posted:The finale is just gonna be every character talking non-stop about Tommy Bucks, like in the pilot. It occurred to me earlier in the day that we've never heard Boone's last name. I hope that's just a coincidence and not a "I put myself in Markham's employ because I just somehow knew I'd eventually get to draw on you for killin' my brother/uncle/mentor/(insert bullshit cliche here)." BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 03:56 on Apr 13, 2015 |
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Apr 13, 2015 03:54
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BIG HEADLINE posted:It occurred to me earlier in the day that we've never heard Boone's last name. I hope that's just a coincidence and not a "I put myself in Markham's employ because I just somehow knew I'd eventually get to draw on you for killin' my brother/uncle/mentor/(insert bullshit cliche here)." Given how many people Raylan's killed, it's basically 50/50 odds that Boone is related to or was friends with one of them.
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