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a pipe smoking dog posted:Wait that stuff is corrugated asbestos? gently caress, now my country childhood poking round abandoned farm buildings seems a lot more concerning. PYF your favourite asbestos_pix: https://www.flickr.com/photos/asbestos_pix/with/7717849236/
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Gorilla Salad posted:Well asbestos is a rock. It's the roof? I assumed asbestos looks like rock or glass wool.
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# ? Apr 13, 2015 16:34 |
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You can process asbestos to look like drat near anything, from roofing to clothing. If it wasn't for the whole "100% lethal unique form of cancer" it causes via simple inhalation, we would still be using it everywhere.
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# ? Apr 13, 2015 16:43 |
Had the pleasure to replace a roof made of asbestos a few years ago: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternit
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# ? Apr 13, 2015 17:00 |
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midnightclimax posted:I just see wood, stone, metal. not rock, it's concrete fenceposts. it can bend and crack like that without snapping because it has a core of rebar midnightclimax posted:It's the roof? I assumed asbestos looks like rock or glass wool. it's the roof. this stuff: Lurking Haro posted:Had the pleasure to replace a roof made of asbestos a few years ago: still absolutely everywhere in Italy
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# ? Apr 13, 2015 17:23 |
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my aunt worked at an Eternit factory in the 70s and she's had terrible asbestosis since. she took settlement money so she wouldn't sue, but not all workers did
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# ? Apr 13, 2015 17:30 |
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its not radioactive lol who cares if its lying about
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# ? Apr 13, 2015 18:02 |
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Asbestos, right before it was pretty much banned was turned into absolutely everything! -Insulation -Corrugated Roofing and Shingles -Ceiling and Floor Tiles -Structural beams -Firewall barriers -Firedoor insulation -Fireproof curtains and Fireblankets -Paneling for around fireplaces and stoves -Fabric/Solid pot holders -Electrical wiring insulation -How water/steam pipe insulation You get the point. If anyone wants to know more about removing asbestos, you should check out the educational firm, "Session 9" which is the source of this gif.
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# ? Apr 13, 2015 18:32 |
The military even issued asbestos oven mitts to machine gun crews for weapons that required the assistant gunner to grab a hot barrel with their hands instead of by a handle for replacing it during sustained fire, as a way to keep them from burning their hands. Lots of fireproof or heatproof clothing involved asbestos.
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# ? Apr 13, 2015 19:08 |
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But that was before we knew about the cancer, right? Or was it like leaded gas where there was a multi-decade lobbying effort to sustain it?
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# ? Apr 13, 2015 19:18 |
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Companies knew about issues with asbestos in like the 1920s and it didn't get banned until the early 80s I believe.
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# ? Apr 13, 2015 19:44 |
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haveblue posted:But that was before we knew about the cancer, right? Or was it like leaded gas where there was a multi-decade lobbying effort to sustain it? Like DDT, asbestos is too beautiful for a world full of capitalists.
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# ? Apr 13, 2015 20:11 |
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Also, people in general used to just not give as much of a poo poo about whether or by how much products were safe. I mean, that was a real thing. The idea that the government has a role in keeping people safe from the poo poo they buy is a modern one, and even with the advent of things like the FDA, it was just generally accepted until relatively recently that you could go to the store and buy dangerous stuff and that was OK.
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# ? Apr 13, 2015 20:15 |
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Leperflesh posted:Also, people in general used to just not give as much of a poo poo about whether or by how much products were safe. Hell, it's still mostly okay if there are labels to tell you how dangerous things are
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# ? Apr 13, 2015 20:26 |
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my dad told me you used to be able to go to the hardware store and buy TNT poo poo was different back then i guess
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# ? Apr 13, 2015 20:55 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nA-84SIFnSo
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# ? Apr 13, 2015 21:22 |
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When I was a kid I had a chemistry set. It was made and specifically marketed to kids. It contained small amounts of several substances that were significantly toxic enough to have little skull-and-crossbones icons on the labels. I don't remember what, exactly, any more, of course. And my mom supervised when we did some of the experiments in the kit. She wasn't an idiot. But they sold that thing at the toy store.
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Leperflesh posted:When I was a kid I had a chemistry set. It was made and specifically marketed to kids. It contained small amounts of several substances that were significantly toxic enough to have little skull-and-crossbones icons on the labels. I had one of those. You know what they put those labels on? Iron filings.
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# ? Apr 13, 2015 21:34 |
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Nah it had a lot of stuff like that, but a bit of googling suggests those old kits had stuff like ammonium nitrate, potassium permanganate, etc. It definitely had a little glass bottle with a wick to be used as an alcohol-burning bunsen burner, with a test-tube holder to position over it - which was apparently outlawed in like 1978? Apparently kits from the 1950s even had stuff like uranium dust and cyanide. Mine was probably bought around 1981 or 1982, but I suspect it was significantly older - my mom didn't have much money back then, and we shopped at thrift stores and stuff a lot. Or it might have come from a grandparent. I had a soldering iron when I was 8 or 9.
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Leperflesh posted:Nah it had a lot of stuff like that, but a bit of googling suggests those old kits had stuff like ammonium nitrate, potassium permanganate, etc. It definitely had a little glass bottle with a wick to be used as an alcohol-burning bunsen burner, with a test-tube holder to position over it - which was apparently outlawed in like 1978? That's not too bad unless you don't have a stand for it.
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Leperflesh posted:It definitely had a little glass bottle with a wick to be used as an alcohol-burning bunsen burner, with a test-tube holder to position over it - which was apparently outlawed in like 1978?
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I do asbestos work at my job and the building owners tell us all about how their buildings were made in 1999, all asbestos free, nothing in sight, swear it! We peel back the floor tiles, take some samples of their mastic, and the whole place has to be re-floored because they stuck asbestos in the glue. Makes a lot of money for us, though. And most every building still has to have a NESHAP before they demo.
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Leperflesh posted:Apparently kits from the 1950s even had stuff like uranium dust and cyanide. My parents were born in the 50's and they talked about handling mercury with their bare hands in school and buying kits that came with vegetable seeds and radioactive pellets to plant with them. Shoe stores still had these things in them http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoe-fitting_fluoroscope when they were young kids.
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# ? Apr 14, 2015 00:43 |
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Leperflesh posted:Nah it had a lot of stuff like that, but a bit of googling suggests those old kits had stuff like ammonium nitrate, potassium permanganate, etc. It definitely had a little glass bottle with a wick to be used as an alcohol-burning bunsen burner, with a test-tube holder to position over it - which was apparently outlawed in like 1978? I had a chemistry set in the late 70s in the UK, and my mum used to buy me extra chemicals that I'd ask her for. No idea where she got them from though. From some googling, it looks like my set would have come from Salter Science, as the photo of the test tubes on the wiki page looks very familiar. I'll have to check the attic in the old family home to see if the set is still there. I've no idea if any of the listed chemicals on that page were dangerous or not, but I wasn't stupid enough as a child to taste any of it. e: My set was pretty much this one, but wasn't quite this layout and definitely older styled: http://www.gumtree.com/p/hobbies-collectibles/vintage-salter-science-chemistry-set/1104946314 Gromit fucked around with this message at 01:55 on Apr 14, 2015 |
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Shalebridge Cradle posted:My parents were born in the 50's and they talked about handling mercury with their bare hands in school and buying kits that came with vegetable seeds and radioactive pellets to plant with them. My mom broke a thermometer intentionally so I could see and play with the mercury. I spilled it into the carpet later and didn't think of it again until many years later when I actually learned about mercury.
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Leperflesh posted:I had a soldering iron when I was 8 or 9. Lurking Haro posted:That's not too bad unless you don't have a stand for it. This is why I have a faint burn scar on my hand. (I was 8)
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Gromit posted:I had a chemistry set in the late 70s in the UK, and my mum used to buy me extra chemicals that I'd ask her for. No idea where she got them from though. From some googling, it looks like my set would have come from Salter Science, as the photo of the test tubes on the wiki page looks very familiar. I'll have to check the attic in the old family home to see if the set is still there.
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`Nemesis posted:My mom broke a thermometer intentionally so I could see and play with the mercury. I spilled it into the carpet later and didn't think of it again until many years later when I actually learned about mercury. Mercury is bad, but it isn't that bad. People used to drink the stuff as a remedy for constipation. Kids used to play with it in chemistry class, and the chemistry teachers used to have several classes playing with it every year. A single touch of the silver liquid isn't guaranteed death. A broken fluorescent bulb doesn't need a hazmat team to clean up.
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Angela Christine posted:Mercury is bad, but it isn't that bad. People used to drink the stuff as a remedy for constipation. Kids used to play with it in chemistry class, and the chemistry teachers used to have several classes playing with it every year. I agree with you, it wasn't a big deal. But that also didn't stop the EHS team at a prior employer from calling in a remediation team to do a full on hazmat cleanup because a mercury wall thermostat broke and spilled mercury behind the drywall. They had to have spent 30k on remediation services for something that wasn't given second thought by me or my parents when I was a kid. This was full on hazmat suits, isolation systems, and 3-4 days of work for a little spilled mercury.
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`Nemesis posted:I agree with you, it wasn't a big deal. But that also didn't stop the EHS team at a prior employer from calling in a remediation team to do a full on hazmat cleanup because a mercury wall thermostat broke and spilled mercury behind the drywall. They had to have spent 30k on remediation services for something that wasn't given second thought by me or my parents when I was a kid. lol
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# ? Apr 14, 2015 09:10 |
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It's true, the safety procedures and also environmental procedures for mercury are crazy, crazy strict. If you call officials for any size mercury spill, even a tiny thermometer, expect a full evacuation and the building being closed for the rest of the day.
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Angela Christine posted:Mercury is bad, but it isn't that bad. People used to drink the stuff as a remedy for constipation. They used to take it for heaps of things. Syphilis, Typhoid fever, parasites, whatever that ales you really. quicksilver's awesome, gently caress the haters. But seriously don't drink mercury kids
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dr_rat posted:But seriously don't drink mercury kids
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Carbon dioxide posted:Actually, inhaling its vapours (by simply having your face over a spill) is, apparently, more dangerous than drinking it. Your lungs absorb the vapour quite well. Your intestines aren't quite as good in absorbing mercury, so, I've been led to understand that the main thing it does when you drink it is act as a gravity-assisted laxative. What if you put it up the butt?
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midnightclimax posted:What if you put it up the butt? And do a handstand for a few hours. Still gravity assisted laxative? eh, I guess the pyloric sphincter would get in the way or something. stupid biology.
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# ? Apr 14, 2015 12:14 |
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Dimethylmercury. E:F;B
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# ? Apr 14, 2015 12:19 |
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Oprah interviews Popa Smurf... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T58YRgdrljM
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Question: How does a tiny drop of that stuff turn into toxic amounts? Is it just super concentrated or does it alter your body chemistry somehow to make more?
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