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IOwnCalculus posted:We've had a rash of wrong-way freeway drivers recently (and, unfortunately, the wrecks and fatalities that go with them) and I think every single one that they've actually apprehended (or been able to get a toxicology report out of the remains) has been drunk off their rear end. Doesn't rule out suicide, but absolutely none of them were sober that I can remember. Between that and people slamming on their brakes for those stupid photocameras you have down there, I'm surprised there aren't more deaths.
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That wrong way driver was a woman who was drunk and was also trying to kill herself. She survived, truck driver was ok. http://www.waxahachietx.com/news/wa...f55811993b.html
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Fo3 posted:I wish more governments did ads like this though: That's a poo poo ad, overwrought to the point of being comical. This one is the same message delivered much more effectively: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHQHcLWQewA
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That's a good commercial.
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DEAR RICHARD posted:I see the light way ahead of me turn green and cars begin to move through it except for the 4th car that is just sitting there. I don't see any hazards on as I'm coming up on it going about 30. As soon as I see that they are leaning across their SUV to wave/talk to someone on the sidewalk, I laid the gently caress on my horn. gently caress you. Pull over. Don't just sit there in the loving lane to have a conversation with someone on the sidewalk. People do this in my condo complex all the time. It's not really dangerous since the speed limit is so low, but they always park in the middle of the road and chat with someone who is also standing in the middle of the road, leaving no room to pass them. It's not like there aren't plenty of empty parking spaces if you want to pull aside and have a chat, either. On an unrelated note, I was in the right lane on the way home today and a guy in the left lane who had been hovering on my left rear quarter panel for like half a minute suddenly put on his right signal and then immediately honked and gestured angrily at me, apparently quite peeved that my existence was hindering his sudden and desperate need to turn right.  Edit: And earlier today I was behind another guy in the left lane who kept turning on his right blinker over and over. Every time, the guy next to me would slow down to let him in, but Blinker Guy would just kept maintaining pace with the car right next to him and then eventually turn off his blinker in frustration when that car failed to vanish into the aether. Then a few seconds later he'd try it again. Went on for a couple miles, and when I finally turned off, the poor guy was still trapped in the left lane as he drove off into the distance, his intermittently flashing right turn signal like a desperate plea to the highway gods to save him from his eternal imprisonment. dennyk fucked around with this message at 04:33 on Apr 14, 2015 |
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InterceptorV8 posted:Between that and people slamming on their brakes for those stupid photocameras you have down there, I'm surprised there aren't more deaths. The freeway ones have been gone for a few years now, and thank god. Nothing like having all traffic driving 74MPH and then standing on the brakes to 64MPH every few miles.
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Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester posted:That's a good commercial. Could also double as a ad targeted to to pedestrians. Please look before you cross a road, even if you think you are in the right. The amount of people I see just walking straight out is scary. Sure, I see them, but mr/miss text-a-lot in the car that comes the next time they cross might not.
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IOwnCalculus posted:The freeway ones have been gone for a few years now, and thank god. Nothing like having all traffic driving 74MPH and then standing on the brakes to 64MPH every few miles. This is basically the whole southwest portion of the M25, except every few hundred metres rather than miles.
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Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester posted:That's a good commercial. I think this movie commercial is clever: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrKMzdTSYbc
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Apr 14, 2015 08:49
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The aftermaths I saw of an accident yesterday in Niagara Falls was enough of a reminder to drive more carefully. There's no news article about it yet but a small car was completely shattered to smithereens and whoever was being carried on a gurney was covered by a blanket. I'm pretty sure they only do that if someone's dead. I can't fathom how anyone in that vehicle would have survived. I'm not going to pretend it didn't disturb me. You're only supposed to go like 35 at that intersection. It should have just been a stupid fender bender! The whole car looked like this:  Pixelated Dragon fucked around with this message at 14:03 on Apr 14, 2015 |
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Apr 14, 2015 13:56
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holy poo poo the engine went into the seats.
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A crash this serious would be in the local news. I'm surprised it's not already. Maybe they're having issues contacting next of kin? There is a brief mention of it on the Fire Wire. I'm morbidly curious about what happened. It looked like a pickup truck had smashed a smaller car to bits somehow. The truck was still mostly intact compared to the car. Guys, if the light JUST turned green and you're about to enter the intersection, please briefly glance in case there's that jackass who's gunning it because he doesn't want to get stuck at the light. Pixelated Dragon fucked around with this message at 16:43 on Apr 14, 2015 |
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Apr 14, 2015 16:35
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Supeerme posted:holy poo poo the engine went into the seats. Looks like it went down and under as designed.
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I think that pic was an example, not the actual car in question - not sure though.
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kastein posted:I think that pic was an example, not the actual car in question - not sure though. Yeah, it's a picture I found that looks a lot like the remains of the car I saw yesterday. It was that level of shattered.
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 traffic was stopped on a highway yesterday due to a wreck and for reasons unknown a lady decided she was going to use the shoulder to pass all these chumps and that plan worked great until she ran into the back of an 18-wheeler. her kids are fine, but from what i've read she isn't doing so well.
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Apr 14, 2015 19:02
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IOwnCalculus posted:The freeway ones have been gone for a few years now, and thank god. Nothing like having all traffic driving 74MPH and then standing on the brakes to 64MPH every few miles. Here in Texas, we have something even stupider. We have different speed limits for cars vs trucks on some streets and freeways. If there's one thing you absolutely do NOT want, it's all traffic moving at a similar speed.
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nitrogen posted:Here in Texas, we have something even stupider. We have different speed limits for cars vs trucks on some streets and freeways. Works in Europe. Trucks are speed limited and usually can't pass cars except in special zones. Makes it so there aren't miles and miles of traffic backed up because of a 65.99 to 66 mph drag race that goes on for 10 miles.
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Apr 14, 2015 19:53
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wallaka posted:Works in Europe. Trucks are speed limited and usually can't pass cars except in special zones. Makes it so there aren't miles and miles of traffic backed up because of a 65.99 to 66 mph drag race that goes on for 10 miles. Strange. When I suggested similar here, I was told that it might result in the very end of the world for truck drivers (or at least you'd think it was, based on how angry people were at me), but you're telling me that this extremely simple and logical solution works just fine in Europe? Well, be still, my beating heart!
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wallaka posted:Works in Europe. Trucks are speed limited and usually can't pass cars except in special zones. Makes it so there aren't miles and miles of traffic backed up because of a 65.99 to 66 mph drag race that goes on for 10 miles. edit: and those are the speed limits, not the speed that the flow of traffic has decided. CannonFodder fucked around with this message at 20:10 on Apr 14, 2015 |
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CannonFodder posted:In California trucks are always at 55 (unless the whole highway goes lower or downhill grades) while car traffic can go 65-70. That's insane. Europe is identical, HGVs Europe-wide are limited to at best 56mph (90kph) while light traffic can do like 70+ (or whatever you like on the Autobahn).
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Truck traffic is signed at 55 mph in Illinois as well, but not a single truck adheres to it. They're always pegged at whatever their limiter is set to, somewhere in the 60's.
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PT6A posted:Strange. When I suggested similar here, I was told that it might result in the very end of the world for truck drivers (or at least you'd think it was, based on how angry people were at me), but you're telling me that this extremely simple and logical solution works just fine in Europe? Well, be still, my beating heart! We should also put tighter restrictions on the hours of service, and cut trucks back to the 80,000lb max weight to stop them from tearing up the roads. If there's one thing that will alleviate our truck-related traffic concerns, it's 50% more of them on the road. Realistically, limiting all trucks to the same speed won't stop them from trying to pass each other. A truck with a lighter load will be quicker than a truck with a heavier load on most roads. A truck with more power and more gears will be quicker than the 330hp 9 speed freightshaker discount special. You can't expect every truck on the road to travel at the speed of the heaviest, least powerful truck. The tires on my truck are 34/32nds new, and illegal at 2/32nds. That's a full inch of treadwear, 2 inches off the diameter through the life of the tire. As it wears, it moves from 42" diameter, 132" circumference to 40 inch diameter 125.5" circumference. That means If it's limited to 60mph on new tires, by the time they're worn it's only capable of 57mph. Every truck behind me has to choose to do 57mph behind me, taking a $1.50/hour pay cut for drivers, or $4-5/hour pay cut for O/Os, or pass me doing 3mph faster. If you want truckers to stop being dicks, allot them a reasonable amount of time to complete a route, and pay them hourly so they don't need to squeak every loving mile out of their rapidly diminishing hours of service. There's no incentive to run 18 hours a day or pass at 66 the dude doing 65 when you get paid hourly, and are given 2 days to run a route expected to take 22 hours. When you're given 2 days to run a route that when runs perfectly against the speed limit takes 26 hours, and you're only allowed driving 13 hours a day, you get the stupidity you're all complaining about. The solution to people acting poorly due to being abused isn't to start abusing them further for your convenience.
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*insert picture of turning 1725 rpm @ 92mph* Yeah, how about no.
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wallaka posted:Works in Europe. Trucks are speed limited and usually can't pass cars except in special zones. Makes it so there aren't miles and miles of traffic backed up because of a 65.99 to 66 mph drag race that goes on for 10 miles. In my mind, I'd think it'd be better to just keep trucks out of the leftmost lane on any road with 3 or more lanes. Then again, in Europe, i'd assume that drivers are far less retarded than here in America.
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nitrogen posted:In my mind, I'd think it'd be better to just keep trucks out of the leftmost lane on any road with 3 or more lanes.
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KozmoNaut posted:This is how I understand the normal procedure for a pedestrian impact. I was watching an old BBC documentary about the Mumbai Suburban Railway that was being repeated on BBC Four the other day, they explained their process for if they hit someone: 1) the train stops 2) the guard and the driver remove the body from the track and put it next to the line 3) they proceed to the next station, where the guard notifies the staff/police that there's a body x kilometres away 4) they continue on their journey. This is because of several reasons, firstly the trains are horribly overloaded, in the peaks they can deal with over 4500 people on a 9 car train (which has a recommended capacity of 1500), which works out at about 14 people per square metre. So if you're stopped for a long time the lack of airflow through the carriages is going to cause problems for the other passengers. Secondly, the railway kills shitloads of people so it would entirely break the service if they had to do things the way they're done elsewhere. To quote wiki: On an average, about 2000 people die annually on the Mumbai Suburban Rail network: over the past 10 years (2002–2012), more than 36,152 lives have been lost on tracks and 36,688 people have been injured. A record 17 people died every weekday on the city's suburban railway network in 2008.
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Kanish posted:shocker : distracted drivers with 8 months experience are not great drivers in panic situations Old post but I had to say. It dont matter if they only have 8 months or 10 years. Some people just never evolve as drivers and dont give a gently caress. MY GIRLFRIEND still drives like those teens. I have to constantly tell her to stop loving with her phone while driving on back 2 lane roads. I'll make her look up at the road and she realizes its dangerous but shes so used to not giving a gently caress and not thinking about it. Because its never happened to her, or anyone she knows. Its because she never evolved as a driver. She never cared about driving better. She just wants to get to A and B. Shes getting better but its a wonder shes alive. MYGIRLFRIEND, is who you share the road with. 
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Drivers ed should be more like ground school for pilots. A good portion on my good driving habits, and I don't profess to be be perfect by any stretch, come from that. Specifically the idea of situational awareness and how to maintain it, but also regular self-evaluation of your habits and your mistakes, as well as other people's mistakes. You're quite correct that, if people don't examine their own actions critically, they will never learn from their mistakes.
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MrOnBicycle posted:Could also double as a ad targeted to to pedestrians. Please look before you cross a road, even if you think you are in the right. The amount of people I see just walking straight out is scary. Sure, I see them, but mr/miss text-a-lot in the car that comes the next time they cross might not.
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EbolaIvory posted:Old post but I had to say. It dont matter if they only have 8 months or 10 years. Some people just never evolve as drivers and dont give a gently caress. MY GIRLFRIEND still drives like those teens. I have to constantly tell her to stop loving with her phone while driving on back 2 lane roads. I'll make her look up at the road and she realizes its dangerous but shes so used to not giving a gently caress and not thinking about it. Because its never happened to her, or anyone she knows. MY WIFE will not stop turning her head to face the person she is having a conversation with. 
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Years ago I remember seeing a proposed HIGHWAY OF THE FUTURE™ that had dedicated truck lanes separated from passenger traffic by medians. Pretty much what is envisioned in the first picture in this http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/policy/otps/rowstudyproj.htm Has anything like that ever been put into practice or is it still just wishful thinking in Federal Highway Administration powerpoints?
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BIG HORNY COW posted:Years ago I remember seeing a proposed HIGHWAY OF THE FUTURE™ that had dedicated truck lanes separated from passenger traffic by medians. Pretty much what is envisioned in the first picture in this http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/policy/otps/rowstudyproj.htm Just make a 4 or more lanes in either direction motorway and prohibit lorries from using any lanes but the two most outside ones. Same effect, less political suicide.
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Deedle posted:That seems like wishful thinking to me. I'd like to see the politician who can explain to John Q Taxpayer and Suzy D Populistic-Voter, that there will be an entire motorway to finance with tax money, which they aren't allowed to use. Politicians are already explaining all the time to John Q Taxpayer and Suzy D Populistic-Voter that they have to pay for roadways via taxes that they then have to pay tolls to use. Why would a commercial-vehicles-only highway be so different?
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wallaka posted:Works in Europe. Trucks are speed limited and usually can't pass cars except in special zones. Makes it so there aren't miles and miles of traffic backed up because of a 65.99 to 66 mph drag race that goes on for 10 miles. Define "works". You still get trucks trying to overtake each other except at 79.99 and 80 km/h unless explicitly forbidden, which is a separate thing. What this causes instead is a huge speed difference between the trucks and the rest of traffic which is a huge pain in the rear end. Coming up to the two trucks drag racing? Gotta lose 50+ km/h of speed and then accelerate again. A truck cuts you off to begin its maneuver? Hit the loving brakes RIGHT NOW because its bumper is approaching at 50km/h. Want to take an exit? Tough poo poo, the exit lane is packed with trucks going half your speed for miles.
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I nearly ran a dude off the road today. There was a car in the middle lane, so I was passing it in the left lane. Then I changed lanes to the middle and was changing to the rightmost lane when he came zooming up, overtaking traffic on the right. I get that you just want to keep going without changing lanes, and I do it myself sometimes, depending on the situation. But goddammit, you're the one doing something "wrong" and unexpected, so you have to be super super aware and not just barge ahead. So I got in behind him at flicked the lights, in return he flipped me off. That's how it usually goes, I guess.
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EbolaIvory posted:Old post but I had to say. It dont matter if they only have 8 months or 10 years. Some people just never evolve as drivers and dont give a gently caress. MY GIRLFRIEND still drives like those teens. I have to constantly tell her to stop loving with her phone while driving on back 2 lane roads. I'll make her look up at the road and she realizes its dangerous but shes so used to not giving a gently caress and not thinking about it. Because its never happened to her, or anyone she knows. My girlfriend is also a terrible phone user when driving, I have had to tell her "The light is green" multiple times, and we rarely go the speed limit when she's texting and actually moving. I hate it. I give her poo poo about it all the time and she finally started only using it at red lights, which is great but as far as she's concerned every light is red until I tell her it isn't or she gets honked at.
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Protocol7 posted:My girlfriend is also a terrible phone user when driving, I have had to tell her "The light is green" multiple times, and we rarely go the speed limit when she's texting and actually moving. I hate it. I give her poo poo about it all the time and she finally started only using it at red lights, which is great but as far as she's concerned every light is red until I tell her it isn't or she gets honked at. Guilty. I don't use my phone or start doing my makeup in the rearview mirror, but I tend to space out at red lights. I'll be staring at the lights and it'll turn green but I've started thinking about something completely unrelated to driving. This usually only happens when I'm the first person at the stop line.
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Pixelated Dragon posted:Guilty. I don't use my phone or start doing my makeup in the rearview mirror, but I tend to space out at red lights. I'll be staring at the lights and it'll turn green but I've started thinking about something completely unrelated to driving. I'll space out sometimes too, but at least my visual attention will be further than the cabin of my vehicle. Better than having no idea that the light has turned green.
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