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Dr. Faustus posted:Is it *really* an accurate representation that the Republican-held Congress was responsible for the lack of security at the mission in Benghazi, or is that just a simplification we tell each other to feel better about the lack of security at the (secret CIA base, that may have been under CIA or State Dept. funding but who the gently caress knows when gov't agencies don't work together) mission in Benghazi? Nobody gave a poo poo about the security at the mission in Benghazi until it became politically expedient to point fingers. And it's not like a few extra guards would have helped, the place was totally overrun with a huge number of militants. It was a hosed up thing that happened, very little could have been done to prevent it, but the right is making as much hay as they can because Obama is relatively scandal-free so they've got to overinflate Benghazi until it pops.
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If there were 10 extra marines there, it would probably have meant 14 people died instead of 4. If you can round up 100 people, put rifles in their hands and go somewhere with the intent of killing, people are going to die unless they are in some sort of bunker. That said, it's hard to perform diplomatic missions (and covert operations) from a bunker. Diplomacy is a dangerous world, but the James Bond movies wouldn't be very fun if Bond just hung out in a bomb shelter the whole movie.
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Apr 14, 2015 23:08
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The number of Americans who give a poo poo about Benghazi (as a scandal, at least) is a subset of the people who would rather die than vote for a Democrat. I mean, at least with the Swift Boat bullshit the average voter could figure out what the gently caress the scandal was. I don't think even the well-informed voter can actually figure out how Benghazi is supposed to be a scandal.
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Apr 14, 2015 23:11
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Ghost of Reagan Past posted:The number of Americans who give a poo poo about Benghazi (as a scandal, at least) is a subset of the people who would rather die than vote for a Democrat. thats the beauty of it. the facts dont matter anyway so why waste time, just scrape together enough whatever so its not transparent bullshit and get it out the door
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Apr 14, 2015 23:21
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Don't forget that there were 13 attacks on diplomatic missions with 60 deaths under Bush, and nary a peep came out of either Republicans or Democrats at the time.
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Apr 14, 2015 23:27
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Remember when soldiers were getting blown up in their Humvees by IEDs because they had no undercarriage armor and they started welding scrap metal to the bottoms of them? Can you imagine if that happened under Obama, he'd be impeached! Republicans are actually really aggressive about the welfare of our troops and personnel abroad, but only when the President is a Democrat. That's why if you truly care about the troops, you'll vote Democrat.
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Apr 14, 2015 23:34
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I don't think you guys understand. The Obama administration said that there was a protest and then it turned out there wasn't. Impeachable offense imo.
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Apr 14, 2015 23:40
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Popular Thug Drink posted:Nobody gave a poo poo about the security at the mission in Benghazi until it became politically expedient to point fingers. One of the (crazy) talking points is that Obama recalled special forces that were deployed to save the embassy.
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Apr 14, 2015 23:50
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I know it's an old South Park joke but it really is: Step 1 - Get US ambassador and 3 other Americans killed. Step 2 - ????? Step 3 -
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Apr 15, 2015 00:12
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muscles like this? posted:One of the (crazy) talking points is that Obama recalled special forces that were deployed to save the embassy. Yes the special forces with their faster than light jetpacks. seiferguy posted:Don't forget that there were 13 attacks on diplomatic missions with 60 deaths under Bush, and nary a peep came out of either Republicans or Democrats at the time. There was a nice image pointing this out, anyone have it?
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seiferguy posted:Don't forget that there were 13 attacks on diplomatic missions with 60 deaths under Bush, and nary a peep came out of either Republicans or Democrats at the time. IIRC most of those deaths weren't Americans, and therefore officially Don't Count.
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Apr 15, 2015 00:15
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The 'real' Benghazi scandal is the CIA Annex in the area, which Petraeus' girlfriend spilled the beans about. The consulate was attacked because the militants thought the CIA was there, and the CIA couldn't blow their cover to reinforce the consulate.
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Apr 15, 2015 00:16
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McDowell posted:The 'real' Benghazi scandal is the CIA Annex in the area, which Petraeus' girlfriend spilled the beans about. The consulate was attacked because the militants thought the CIA was there, and the CIA couldn't blow their cover to reinforce the consulate. Is there more i can read about this? I've never heard about this
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Apr 15, 2015 00:20
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Ghost of Reagan Past posted:The number of Americans who give a poo poo about Benghazi (as a scandal, at least) is a subset of the people who would rather die than vote for a Democrat. But that's not the point is it? The point is to scream BENGHAZI over and over because "where there's smoke there's flame" and why would BENGHAZI still be a BENGHAZI thing if there was BENGHAZI nothing to BENGHAZI? BENGHAZI.
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Apr 15, 2015 00:21
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SalTheBard posted:Is there more i can read about this? I've never heard about this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6ENgEtazZA Then in the comments you get elaborate theories that the CIA is engineering all world conflicts and Benghazi was a hub for arms smuggling which Amb. Stevens was going to expose.
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Apr 15, 2015 00:30
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SalTheBard posted:Is there more i can read about this? I've never heard about this http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/sep/6/us-security-team-secret-cia-annex-we-were-told-sta/ The top CIA official was Obama, who cackled with glee as he ordered these brave soldiers to sit on their tails and not rush in to save the day. http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/benghazi.asp
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Apr 15, 2015 00:47
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Soviet Commubot posted:Satanic blood magic, I imagine. ftfy.
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Apr 15, 2015 01:33
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Got this one recently: there are ISIS camps just south of El paso http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2015/04/isis-camp-a-few-miles-from-texas-mexican-authorities-confirm/
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Apr 15, 2015 01:35
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Ron Jeremy posted:Got this one recently: there are ISIS camps just south of El paso Wow, that's extremely interesting! It's kind of like the t-shirt that someone found and called a 'prayer rug'.
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Apr 15, 2015 01:39
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Popular Thug Drink posted:http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/sep/6/us-security-team-secret-cia-annex-we-were-told-sta/ My god, I actually learned something relevant from reading about this jazz. I'll mark the calendar.
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Apr 15, 2015 02:42
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I just saw a person share a meme with Hillary Clinton (along with some video involving dumb and dumber). A lady made a comment about how no one could contend against Hillary. A baseball playing gun-loving soldier-worshipping replied with "One word: Benghazi". Majestic.
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Apr 15, 2015 05:25
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Yeah but he earned those 9 bowls. And by earned I mean he is part owner in a business and siphoned the income by paying his employees as little as possible and not providing healthcare and then skirting the issue by only giving them 20 hour workweeks. Anyway he deserves to keep all his ice cream. 
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Apr 15, 2015 05:40
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Have some more Hillary hate. The comments remind me of a kid trying to think of bad things to say about someone, but not really having anything to go on. "And she um....eats boogers! And one time she scratched her butt and smelled her finger!"
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Apr 15, 2015 05:43
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Mo_Steel posted:Yeah but he earned those 9 bowls. And by earned I mean he is part owner in a business and siphoned the income by paying his employees as little as possible and not providing healthcare and then skirting the issue by only giving them 20 hour workweeks. Anyway he deserves to keep all his ice cream. How to teach your kid about taxes: keep 90% of the ice cream for your self, and tell the rest of the family they're lucky to have anything. Take a few bites then throw the rest away. If one kid who doesn't get enough asks for some of yours, throw a crying screaming fit and call him an evil marxist dictator.
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Apr 15, 2015 05:54
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Kat R. Waulin posted:Have some more Hillary hate. Hillary Clinton personally flew to Benghazi and strangled those four Americans while using her personal email account to tell the Marines to sit on the runway, and once she is elected she will round up all the straight white males and put them into concentration camps.  Indy Nile is a fantastic name change, and that person is so close to the answer. People keep trying to attach her to scandals and she keeps coming out like roses..... because... A. She controls the media and a majority of my fellow Americans are too stupid to realize it. B. The scandals lack in substance when you look into them beyond a cursory glance. Probably A!  VitalSigns posted:How to teach your kid about taxes: keep 90% of the ice cream for your self, and tell the rest of the family they're lucky to have anything. Take a few bites then throw the rest away. If one kid who doesn't get enough asks for some of yours, throw a crying screaming fit and call him an evil marxist dictator. Throw away ice cream? Don't be absurd, we invest it. Every day ice cream is delivered to your house, and you take most of the ice cream in the house to add to your own, which you keep in a gigantic freezer that actually creates MORE ice cream as a result. Also the ice cream that is delivered is made by your kids and you keep the difference between their pay and the value of their labor. I kinda want to make a "how to teach your kids about hard work" with an orange juice stand analogy where the end result is explanatory of the exploitation of labor. 
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Apr 15, 2015 05:55
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How to demonstrate to children how taxes work in America: Force them to make ice cream. They get to keep one of every 100 bowls four days a week. The fifth and sixth day they get to keep nothing. The seventh day they work 19 hours paving your driveway. All of the rest of the ice cream goes into a vault, never to be seen again, while you brag about how much ice cream you have.
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Apr 15, 2015 06:11
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 It's weird how you always see OP and the other Benghazi victims buried with each other; you'd think they'd be buried in their hometowns with their families or whatever. I guess that presupposes that they are actual people and not just political props for right wing shitheads.
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Apr 15, 2015 07:01
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That's it, in my will I'm going to insist on comic sans for my headstone.
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Apr 15, 2015 07:10
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BUBBA GAY DUDLEY posted:I don't think you guys understand. The Obama administration said that there was a protest and then it turned out there wasn't. Impeachable offense imo. Wasn't he literally quoting the public report from the CIA when he said that?
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Apr 15, 2015 07:27
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Mo_Steel posted:Hillary Clinton personally flew to Benghazi and strangled those four Americans while using her personal email account to tell the Marines to sit on the runway, and once she is elected she will round up all the straight white males and put them into concentration camps. The only one who can stop her is Mike Cuckabee! 
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Apr 15, 2015 07:35
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point of return posted:Wasn't he literally quoting the public report from the CIA when he said that? Look just because it turned out to be something else and once that information was known the story was changed to match doesn't mean anything. They should know everything always and they should apologize any time they're wrong. Just like Susan Rice was apologized to when one of the terrorists involved in the attack came out and said that the video was one of the reasons for it.
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Apr 15, 2015 07:48
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Can we be gross and make some of vilerats leftist quotes memes?
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Apr 15, 2015 10:20
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Let the dead lay. I'm the first one to sink to thier level to mock conservatives, but using a heroes bones as a cudgel is too ghoulish to consider.
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The Benghazi thing that still sticks in my craw is the Hillary line "What difference, at this point, does it make?" I know it's some time ago, but I'll refresh as best as possible from memory: During/Just after the attack, Susan Rice says the attack was caused by muslim backlash over a dumb anti-muslim movie "Innocence of Muslims". While that was causing some uproar and stuff in Egypt, it was later determined that the Benghazi attack was way way way more coordinated than some simple "crowd anger". Clinton, when asked about why there was a discrepancy in the story says, "What difference, at this point, does it make?" and the whackjobs ran with it, completely flipping it over as Clinton being indifferent to the deaths in Benghazi. It is both woefully ignorant and willfully disingenuous to keep this meme going, but I guarangoddamntee it'll be a solid 1/3rd of all the soundbites in GOP presidential hit ads against Clinton.
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Gotta handle all the important issues on facebook, like both hating on transsexuals and why the gently caress your phone sent you an alert vibrate. Also, this lady on my facebook is seriously going more and more ISIS crazy. It's pretty interesting to watch. 
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Here's the full Hillary quote:quote:With all due respect, the fact is we had four dead Americans. Was it because of a protest or was it because of guys out for a walk one night who decided that they’d they go kill some Americans? What difference at this point does it make? It is our job to figure out what happened and do everything we can to prevent it from ever happening again, Senator. Now, honestly, I will do my best to answer your questions about this, but the fact is that people were trying in real time to get to the best information. The IC has a process, I understand, going with the other committees to explain how these talking points came out. But you know, to be clear, it is, from my perspective, less important today looking backwards as to why these militants decided they did it than to find them and bring them to justice, and then maybe we’ll figure out what was going on in the meantime. The full exchange is here: http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/article/2013/may/07/context-hillary-clintons-what-difference-does-it-m/
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Honestly "what difference does it make" doesn't even matter since if she had said something totally different there would be some other phrase they could take totally out of context and rage over. "Acts of Terror" versus "Act of Terrorism" was such a thing we had to have this article on the matter since it's apparently a huge deal. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...a31f9_blog.html
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Kat R. Waulin posted:Have some more Hillary hate. No, Indy, the crazy Hillary-killed-a-guy conspiracy theory is Vince Foster. At least get the name straight! 
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seiferguy posted:Here's the full Hillary quote: I posted in this thread about a colleague of mine who was ranting about "Who Cares" Hillary. And of course the best thing to do to these people is make them feel retarded by asking them what question she was answering. In my limited experience, 100% of Benghazi ranters don't even know the question.
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