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Rocksicles posted:I'm the same, don't like typical Ben Stiller movies for that reason. and i fast forwarded most of these two episodes for that reason. It's losing me pretty quickly, and i'm not a TV quitter. There wasn't anything really cringeworthy in the second episode. You should watch all of it. Unless you're extremely sensitive. Nothing compares to that car scene at night. Man that was fantastic. Also I think people are still being amazingly hard on Phil. Calling him a sociopath is a bit extreme. First you have to wrap your brain around the whole end of the world scenario so normal social conventions don't really mean poo poo anymore. I agree there's a bit of cowardice involved when it comes to Carol but I think deep down he's a decent guy. He just got stuck in an impossible situation that he made worse by lying instead of coming clean right from the beginning.
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People keep bringing up that end of the world/he's been alone for so long angle, but then so was everyone else. Carol is nuts but probably always has been, but the rest of the cast managed to stay normal, well adjusted and pleasant people despite going through the same thing Phil did. But yea, just caught up on the second ep, glad that chapter's dealt with, and seems this time Phil's realization about himself might have been genuine. As per the preview, looks like they are handing the villain ball to Carol now.
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Apr 13, 2015 17:24
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Everyone should just leave Phil and Carole in Tucson and go live anywhere else together since those two are just messed up crazy people. Then the show can be about two people that don't get along trying to get along during an end of the world scenario.....you know, like the show should have been.
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So far I've been enjoying this show a lot and not really understanding the issues some people have with it. ...except for that part some goon mentioned about why Phil is the only one who seems to have gone insane. Didn't at least Todd, Carol and Melissa also spend a very long time (was it 2 years?) thinking they were the last people on earth too? Were the Alive in Tuscon signs up for so long that they were able to cling to sanity with that? I guess it's not really bugging me, and Carol seems to be pretty nutty - albeit it seems to be established that's just her personality since always - but I keep wondering each episode.
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On the topic of that, a big swerve would be Melissa turning out to be some sort of black widow and killing Todd. Go too long without human contact and anybody could go completely insane. That'd probably be pretty dark for a Fox sitcom, though.
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Apr 14, 2015 01:27
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Avalerion posted:Don't get why he keeps sticking with the sham marriage, he's shown he's willing to be a scummy dick in other ways, but telling the crazy woman that he doesn't want to play house any longer would cross the line? Because it worked for Bill Clinton?
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MacGruber is a funny and sympathetic character for a 90 minute movie, but really really not for a television show.
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ChesterJT posted:There wasn't anything really cringeworthy in the second episode. You should watch all of it. Unless you're extremely sensitive. Nothing compares to that car scene at night. Man that was fantastic. I was just over his ridiculous lies, and man child act. It's poo poo to watch, hopefully it gets better because i love the premises and i like the other actors. This is the first serious TV whinge i've had in ages, it's not how i roll.
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tarlibone posted:"Let's just over with which to get this." I figured it'd be "Let's just get over with this." I loved Phil's silent treatment. That probably had me laughing harder than most of the rest of this show in a long time.
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Man these last episodes were ableist as gently caress They writers need to check their sleeping privilege SLEEP APNEA IS NOT A JOKE
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I love the list of grievances on the board: - Stop peeing on the grass. - Get new shoes. - Pick up lawn garbage. - Clean dishes from cul-de-sac. - Empty port-a-potty. - Stop driving snow mobiles on the street. - Must clean toilet pool. - Must empty garbage pool. - Fix door. - Husbands must live with their wives - Wear shirt. - Clean cow room. - Stop driving on our lawns. - Less staring. - Don't use the flamethrower near dry bushes. And then Phil's angrily scribbling: - Less outside haircuts. pentyne posted:There is clearly going to be a new arrival before the finale that will gently caress the entire situation up, probably a new male character. BIG HEADLINE posted:At least until Boris Kodjoe shows up, who's now listed as being a castmember on the Wiki page, which hasn't been wrong yet. Think you pretty much nailed it. The Last Man on Earth: "Let's just over with which to get this."
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I think a big problem with the show is that no one other than Carol and Phil really have any personalities. They're just perfect goodie two-shoes straight men/women to bounce Phil's wackiness off of. Also, even though Phil "learns" something at the end of a few episodes, it never sticks and he's back to being a jerk the next show. Of course, if he did learn to be a nice person, there wouldn't be any more conflict because of the whole 1-dimensional character problem mentioned above. I dunno if I should stick with the show anymore, since the only good scenes are between Phil and Carol.
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Apr 15, 2015 05:40
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The show should just keep adding more & more characters until it has a LOST-esque ensemble.
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Lovin the latest reveals for the show, I'm glad they came to a head to some of the more ridiculous behaviour Phils been doing.Jerkface posted:The show should just keep adding more & more characters until it has a LOST-esque ensemble.
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JazzFlight posted:I think a big problem with the show is that no one other than Carol and Phil really have any personalities. They're just perfect goodie two-shoes straight men/women to bounce Phil's wackiness off of. I think Will Forte is charismatic, but not enough to carry an entire network show. I like the Phil character as a goon in that Burgess Meredith Twilight Zone episode, finally left alone he drives all over the country stealing art, eating cheetos and drinking all day. Instead of his glasses breaking, he meets another human and has to try to stop being selfish.
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Apr 15, 2015 22:49
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I'll have to go back and check, but Phil only came clean about lying, right? He never came clean about stealing the cow, never apologized for trying to kill Todd, nor do I remember him apologizing to Carol for explicitly trying to cheat on her with Gale and Erica. My guess is that it is still a long way to go before Phil Miller is likeable.
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I'm fine with him being unlikable, I wish he was less pathetic and creepy. Right now he's not just unlikable but unsympathetic.
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I just think it's not a very well written show. It started out really strong but then tanked pretty quickly.
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Solice Kirsk posted:I just think it's not a very well written show. It started out really strong but then tanked pretty quickly. I was excited because Phil Lord and Chris Miller had their names attached but they don't have any actual writing credits. Will Forte has the (usually sole) writing credit for every episode and if you look at his previous writing credits they include such highlights as being one of the ten writers for Extreme Movie, the infamous bomb The Brothers Solomon, and seven years of MTV Movie Awards sketches.
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Apr 17, 2015 03:49
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And here comes the model. Sorry Phil, your market value just dropped
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Apr 20, 2015 02:47
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I really liked this episode. Phil getting stuck on the billboard and then only being able to say "but, I'm phil." Then the call back to his jenga tower, and he even loses at that. I'm excited for the phil and todd team up too.
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Apr 20, 2015 03:22
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Phil up on the billboard was pretty good. I do like that Phil's decisions always come back to bite him. I would like for more of the episodes conflicts to not be based on sex, but I'll take a good episode nonetheless.
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Apr 20, 2015 04:10
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My only major complaint about the episode is that Phil didn't find the ladder on the back. Like, it's a fun punchline and all, but I don't buy even Phil being that incompetent.
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NowonSA posted:My only major complaint about the episode is that Phil didn't find the ladder on the back. Like, it's a fun punchline and all, but I don't buy even Phil being that incompetent. I thought the punchline was if Phil had not gone up there, he would have got to bang Erica and Gail, and New Phil would not have gotten to be a hero when he came to the scene. The comedy to me came from Phil being his own worst enemy, and the thing that hinders him getting what he wants. It reminds me of the episode of Seinfeld where George Costanza does the opposite of what his instincts tell him to do, and he is wildly successful.
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PassTheRemote posted:I thought the punchline was if Phil had not gone up there, he would have got to bang Erica and Gail, and New Phil would not have gotten to be a hero when he came to the scene. Well Phil being his own worst enemy is probably the biggest theme of the show so far, and has been documented thoroughly. Having that happen again is no big deal. The ladder punchline is a new wrinkle on this happening again, but again how do you not check out your entire surroundings when you're stranded there for 24 hours? If my idea of a straight up willing-to-murder psycho showing up is paid off in new Phil Miller I'll love this show forever. New Phil being an intentional rear end in a top hat to the other guys wouldn't be bad either, for starters I have to believe he's lying about his name because it is just a vastly unlikely scenario. Phil was probably saying his name in the middle of a heat delusion.
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NowonSA posted:Well Phil being his own worst enemy is probably the biggest theme of the show so far, and has been documented thoroughly. Having that happen again is no big deal. The ladder punchline is a new wrinkle on this happening again, but again how do you not check out your entire surroundings when you're stranded there for 24 hours? Interesting note, Mary Steemburgen and Boris Kodjoe are listed as recurring characters. Everyone else is listed as cast members.
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PassTheRemote posted:Interesting note, Mary Steemburgen and Boris Kodjoe are listed as recurring characters. Everyone else is listed as cast members. I could see him going for the easy kill first. I'd say Phil's the easiest, but I imagine he'll have a gun on hand, maybe even a flamethrower if your timing sucks. There are also rad high-concept ethical issues that they could get into. With so few humans around, can you really enforce capital punishment? You can't really exile or banish anyone, at least not when they're smart and willing to kill. Losing any member of society (even useless Phil Miller or murderer Phil Miller) means sacrificing the only valuable/limited resource of significance. And you do still need all the genetic diversity you can get, and unless artificial insemination tech is developed that means letting even killers make babies. Of course, conversely if someone kills a really bad guy (even if he's been captured), you also can't really punish them at all for the same reason you can't execute a prisoner. I don't expect this to come up this season, but having a real human threat in a later season makes a lot of sense to me. You can still have comedic elements to this too, the characters are chased out of Tucson by a newcomer and settle elsewhere in Arizona, then you do an episode where the new bad guy welcomes a new man or woman to Tucson and acts super nice, then ticks one of the horrific deaths or fates worse than death off his murder list. Then end that episode with the next person showing up... it's dark comedy, but you could pull it off. It would depend a lot on the writing and even more on the actor, of course. And with that approach, who better to be doing it than someone using the name Phil Miller... Anyway, that's my overanalysis/wild ideas for the month, hope you enjoy it!
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My only slight problem is that Todd conveniently is becoming slightly less sympathetic the same moments a new perfect man shows up. Obviously, the show can't have two good men to contrast with Phil Tandy. I wonder what direction they'll take Todd. He seemed legitimately grateful for running into Phil Tandy and the rest; initially created a great new impression with the community; and still has Phil Tandy's example of not what to do despite some emerging anxieties.
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Echo Chamber posted:My only slight problem is that Todd conveniently is becoming slightly less sympathetic the same moments a new perfect man shows up. Obviously, the show can't have two good men to contrast with Phil Tandy. I think it was just Melissa saying "Thanks" to Todd's declaration of love that sort of threw him. It seems that really messed him up and introducing a much hotter and more reliable Phil that all the girls are going gaga over didn't help.
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I don't think I like this show anymore. It just hasn't turned into what I would have liked. It's disappointing, it started out really promising.
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The show was funny when the environment itself was more of a character. Now it's just "haha this guy has a boner and none of the hot chicks like him haha" over and over.
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A ladder on the other side of the billboard... but when I was watching, I didn't see a way to access the other side of the billboard.
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I liked this episode more than the latest ones; Phil and Todd against new Phil seems like an interesting plot. Kristen Schaal cleans up nicely. The only thing that dissapointed me was that from the title I thought Phil was actually going to move to Tampa and we'll get a new "Last Man on Earth" situation.
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tarlibone posted:A ladder on the other side of the billboard... but when I was watching, I didn't see a way to access the other side of the billboard. Most billboards have a ladder built into the support pole of the entire structure on the backside, like so:  and there are special ladders that the companies use with hooks at the top the grab onto the bottom rung so the ladder specifically doesn't fall down with someone on the billboard, like so:  The built-in ladder was just never shown because all we ever saw of the billboard was the front.
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Apr 21, 2015 04:30
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The fact they played Jenga to see who keeps the name Phil was especially hilarious to me.
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Gynovore posted:Unironically, this would be awesome. So basically what you're saying is that this is the Last Man on Earth you were looking for. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6Q8DqtfHk0
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