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mrking posted:I thought that was Gordon and Skye's mom It was.
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Is Reina related to Skye at all? I seem to remember this being a thing but I can't recall the details, so I might have imagined it. Can anyone confirm/deny?
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Apr 15, 2015 14:34
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Wait, hold the phone, Gordon and Skye share a mother?
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Apr 15, 2015 14:40
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Pan Dulce posted:Wait, hold the phone, Gordon and Skye share a mother? [Gordon] and [Skye's mom].
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Apr 15, 2015 14:46
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double nine posted:Is Reina related to Skye at all? I seem to remember this being a thing but I can't recall the details, so I might have imagined it. Can anyone confirm/deny? I'm pretty sure you are remembering the implications they were the same kind of thing back before they were transformed. We now know that meant they're both Inhumans, not that they're actually related.
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Apr 15, 2015 14:51
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Okay so some lazy sleuthing (typing Agents of Shield promo on Youtube) yielded the same promo held before the Kimmel show, with most of the clips being the ones throughout the season and the Ultron teasers. Anyone got a link to the other one mentioned?
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Apr 15, 2015 15:00
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An Initiative spinoff would be awesome. Paul Rudd does TV sometimes, right? Its kind of crazy to think there will be 6-7 ongoing Marvel tv shows alongside the film franchises.
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Apr 15, 2015 15:41
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The frustrating (actually it's incredibly good storytelling) thing about the Civil War leadup is that both sides really have legitimate points. Gonzales' SHIELD is wondering what in the ever loving gently caress Coulson is up to that he won't even tell his lieutenants and Coulson doesn't want Reel Big SHIELD to continue clamping down on people with powers where they could do some good in the world. The tell, though, is in the language being used. When May, Jemma, etc. talk to inhumans, they say "fixed". When Coulson and Fitz talk about her, they don't use that kind of language. Also, isn't the Hydra doctor's name they're looking for Dr. Fix? Did I hear that right?  Basically RSHIELD are being hypocritical authoritarian jackasses and I'm on 
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Apr 15, 2015 15:42
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Chokes McGee posted:The frustrating (actually it's incredibly good storytelling) thing about the Civil War leadup is that both sides really have legitimate points. Gonzales' SHIELD is wondering what in the ever loving gently caress Coulson is up to that he won't even tell his lieutenants and Coulson doesn't want Reel Big SHIELD to continue clamping down on people with powers where they could do some good in the world. Then why is he hiding his super duper secret project? And not telling Simmons that she is actually making Deathlok batteries? Burn down both sides and start over fresh.
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Apr 15, 2015 15:50
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double nine posted:Is Reina related to Skye at all? I seem to remember this being a thing but I can't recall the details, so I might have imagined it. Can anyone confirm/deny? Not in the slightest. I remember she was orphaned, lived with her grandmother, who regaled her with tales of special people they would become, then she died and she ran about with a bunch of kids on the streets similar to her until she met Cal, who took her away from that and raised her. It was kind of father/daughter, where he taught her about how to become Inhuman, not necessarily that results may vary, obviously. In exchange, she'd help him find Skye and try to keep him stable. It's why she's so jealous of Skye, her relationship with Cal, everything.
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Apr 15, 2015 15:54
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Chokes McGee posted:Also, isn't the Hydra doctor's name they're looking for Dr. Fix? Did I hear that right? Did I miss something here? Who is looking for a Hydra doctor?
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Apr 15, 2015 16:05
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Chokes McGee posted:The tell, though, is in the language being used. When May, Jemma, etc. talk to inhumans, they say "fixed". When Coulson and Fitz talk about her, they don't use that kind of language. Also, isn't the Hydra doctor's name they're looking for Dr. Fix? Did I hear that right? Dr. List. Which, before you move on to another theory, is probably not because he's a Doctor of Lists, but is his name. mikeraskol posted:Did I miss something here? Who is looking for a Hydra doctor? He was the Hydra boss they didn't kill. The one who was with Von Strucker in the post-Winter Soldier credit scene. Coulson mentioned that Mike Peterson had been tailing him.
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Apr 15, 2015 16:20
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mrking posted:I thought that was Gordon and Skye's mom Right. That makes more sense. I'd just watch Episode 7 of Daredevil Monday night, so Stick was fresh in my mind. Of course Gordon needs sunglasses when he's out in public. Also, of course they were there. That's how she knew the story of what happened. Thank you. Ambivalent posted:Dr. List. Which, before you move on to another theory, is probably not because he's a Doctor of Lists, but is his name. Actually, I think it's Liszt. Pronounced like List, but not spelled that way.
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Apr 15, 2015 16:32
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Kheldarn posted:Actually, I think it's Liszt. Pronounced like List, but not spelled that way. I would think that, but it's in the credits as List, so.
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Apr 15, 2015 16:33
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Ambivalent posted:I would think that, but it's in the credits as List, so. Welp. Thank you for that. Weird choice on their part, but... 
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Apr 15, 2015 16:34
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Ambivalent posted:Dr. List. Which, before you move on to another theory, is probably not because he's a Doctor of Lists, but is his name. Guys, it all makes sense now! What if--- oh 
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Apr 15, 2015 16:48
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twistedmentat posted:So that is set just before Iron Man 1? Lemniscate Blue posted:"Seven years ago", Iron Man came out in 2008, so yeah, that sounds about right. Just before or right around. Actually, no. I mean, the Avengers reference might mean that was the intention but if so then they've done a sloppy retcon. The established timeline basically said: Iron Man (6 months pass) Iron Man 2, Thor and The Incredible Hulk happen in the same week (1 year passes) Steve Rogers is found, and the events of The Avengers occur shortly afterwards. Then Iron Man 3 occurs a few months later, and from then on I guess the movies are spaced in real time along with AoS.
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Apr 15, 2015 17:16
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So who, exactly, would be stockpiled in Coulson's superpower summer camp? There are presumably plenty of people on the Gifted index, but not that many we've seen who are both A. mentally stable and B. alive. The Inhumans have their own summer camp in the mountains of Whereversia, so I don't think they would want to come. Who does that leave? Mike Peterson? Brainwashed Ice Nerd that Skye shot and definitely did not kill because the show made a point of telling us they never found his body? Because as far as I can tell, all the other superpowered people in the show fall into those three categories; dead, evil/insane, or Inhuman.
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Apr 15, 2015 17:27
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This was a really, really good episode. Even though I'm really enjoying Daredevil, I'm glad I took a break to watch AoS. They could basically have a Marvel channel on TV. Show all the movies, all the TV shows, the cartoons. I'd watch. Make it happen, Disney.
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Apr 15, 2015 17:32
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Spergatory posted:So who, exactly, would be stockpiled in Coulson's superpower summer camp? There are presumably plenty of people on the Gifted index, but not that many we've seen who are both A. mentally stable and B. alive. The Inhumans have their own summer camp in the mountains of Whereversia, so I don't think they would want to come. Who does that leave? Mike Peterson? Brainwashed Ice Nerd that Skye shot and definitely did not kill because the show made a point of telling us they never found his body? It could be preemptive in that he wants to start a training place rather than incarcerating any Gifted people they find in the future. Or it could be a total smokescreen, New Shield is wrong, and it isn't a Gifted school at all. New Shield shows up guns blazing and finds a big surprise banner and a new Shield school.
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BreakAtmo posted:Actually, no. I mean, the Avengers reference might mean that was the intention but if so then they've done a sloppy retcon. The established timeline basically said: Comic book time: The Eternal Now.
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Apr 15, 2015 17:40
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mikeraskol posted:It could be preemptive in that he wants to start a training place rather than incarcerating any Gifted people they find in the future. Or it could be a total smokescreen, New Shield is wrong, and it isn't a Gifted school at all. New Shield shows up guns blazing and finds a big surprise banner and a new Shield school. Coulson's school for gifted youngsters!
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Apr 15, 2015 17:44
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So after witnessing May's backstory, I've concluded that anytime somebody makes a joke about May being the Calvary they are unknowingly being tremendous assholes. This episode went a long way to explain why May is the way that she is now. She's broken - not to the extent that she can't function, but now we know why she seems to cut off her emotions.
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Apr 15, 2015 17:46
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Should have given her pain.
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Apr 15, 2015 17:50
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Aphrodite posted:Chloe Bennet is only 22. THAT'S NOT HER AGE!!
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Apr 15, 2015 18:19
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Ensign_Ricky posted:THAT'S NOT HER AGE!! That is never NOT going to be funny.
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Apr 15, 2015 18:47
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Aphrodite posted:Chloe Bennet is only 22. I wonder if there's a reason to make her older.
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Apr 15, 2015 19:05
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Oracle posted:The significant looks her parents gave each other when she went 'wait, I'm 26?!' made me think they meant she was born in 1888 and just went with it. Which would make sense if she inherited her mom's healing ability or w/e. What. Edit: I'm sure I'll end up being wrong about this but it seems like you are reading way too much into that. mikeraskol fucked around with this message at 19:39 on Apr 15, 2015 |
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Apr 15, 2015 19:35
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I think the year was wrong, but Cal went with it so they're not separated again. And now I'm wondering if that's even Skye's mom or just someone stealing her face.
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Apr 15, 2015 19:38
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SpikeMcclane posted:I think the year was wrong, but Cal went with it so they're not separated again. And now I'm wondering if that's even Skye's mom or just someone stealing her face. Yeah I was expecting the stories to not match up. There is something up with Cal and once again Daisy will be betrayed by the people she thought were family.
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Apr 15, 2015 20:00
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Spergatory posted:So who, exactly, would be stockpiled in Coulson's superpower summer camp? There are presumably plenty of people on the Gifted index, but not that many we've seen who are both A. mentally stable and B. alive. The Inhumans have their own summer camp in the mountains of Whereversia, so I don't think they would want to come. Who does that leave? Mike Peterson? Brainwashed Ice Nerd that Skye shot and definitely did not kill because the show made a point of telling us they never found his body? It's not a huge leap to think that there are more gifted out there that haven't been grabbed/tagged/whatever. Hell, we just had a whole show dedicated to one of them. It sounds like Fury had a second list in the box, probably of useful gifted people who weren't insane, that wasn't shared with the rest of SHIELD. The man is 'THE' spy, after all, and this was probably one of a hundred contingency plans for 'suddenly, aliens attack!'
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Apr 15, 2015 20:07
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bobkatt013 posted:Yeah I was expecting the stories to not match up. There is something up with Cal and once again Daisy will be betrayed by the people she thought were family. There's something up with that whole afterlife place. It's too much of a perfect utopian paradise for it not to have a million skeletons in the closet.
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Apr 15, 2015 20:13
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Some people's powers are to generate skeletons. Don't be a racist.
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Apr 15, 2015 20:15
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PierreTheMime posted:I have to assume the Elders are going to love her, she'll get an in, and then really make trouble when she has visions of Skye leaving and/or Afterlife being invaded. Did the mountain resort actually get called "Afterlife" in the show and I missed it, or is "Afterlife" just a nickname that's floating around here?
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Apr 15, 2015 20:19
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Did Skye's mom actually mention the year of her birth or just the day? I would have to go back and watch it, but I think it was just the day and she never mentioned the year. It was just the fact that Cal mentioned the year and it was an extra little bit of surprise that she's a year older than she thought, that's all.
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Apr 15, 2015 20:24
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That scene seemed a bit too awkward to not be relevant. But shrug. *insert Ward sex with dog joke here*
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Apr 15, 2015 20:28
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bull3964 posted:Did Skye's mom actually mention the year of her birth or just the day? I would have to go back and watch it, but I think it was just the day and she never mentioned the year. That's probably the reason for the look, yeah. The reason her being 26 stood out to me though is because usually a character is the same age as the actor that plays them, unless there's a reason not to be. The only thing that comes to mind is that they had Whitehall's release placed in 1989, so Skye had to have been born before that. That could even be the only reason. Maybe they just didn't think of Skye/Bennet's age when they put the date on there at the time or something.
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Apr 15, 2015 20:31
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Agree that the scene seemed really strange, but I couldn't come up with a decent reason why they would need to lie about it. It lines up with Whitehall being released, her Mom being captured, and her being dropped off at the orphanage. Crackpot theory, Daisy is dead and Skye is her younger sister born after her Mom got stitched back together with possible Nazi experiment side effects. Her mom would have had to have gotten pregnant again almost immediately after giving birth to Daisy for this to be possible though.
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Apr 15, 2015 20:39
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Orrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr its just Skye surprised that she's a year older than she thought and the scene doesn't mean anything.
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