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the order is no where near as bad as people have made out
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Apr 15, 2015 21:58
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Yes it is. The Order is incredibly boring and the combat is ball-numbingly mediocre. When your game has Nikola Tesla giving you weapons and the best he can do is a gun that lights gas on fire that you use in like, one level, you hosed up. Where's my arc cannon or steampunk railgun or anything interesting at all other than "handguns, machine guns, rifles"?!
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Apr 15, 2015 22:08
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precision posted:Yes it is. The Order is incredibly boring and the combat is ball-numbingly mediocre. When your game has Nikola Tesla giving you weapons and the best he can do is a gun that lights gas on fire that you use in like, one level, you hosed up. Where's my arc cannon or steampunk railgun or anything interesting at all other than "handguns, machine guns, rifles"?! there is literally an arc cannon though?
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Apr 15, 2015 22:15
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See, the game was so boring I forgot it had a gun that shoots lightning in it!
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Apr 15, 2015 22:16
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maybe it helped I had really low expectations going in but ive been enjoying it and the gunplay is really fun and visceral v v
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Apr 15, 2015 22:16
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Quest For Glory II posted:OTOH i can finally get wild arms 3 for 2 bucks or whatever, Gamestop's PS2 game prices went crazy low before they were liquidated Yeah some stores are still selling PS2 games for 90% off. They still have some RPGs because I picked up a bunch a few months ago. I also got Super Bombad Racing because it was only a dollar.
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Apr 15, 2015 23:16
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precision posted:Yes it is. The Order is incredibly boring and the combat is ball-numbingly mediocre. When your game has Nikola Tesla giving you weapons and the best he can do is a gun that lights gas on fire that you use in like, one level, you hosed up. Where's my arc cannon or steampunk railgun or anything interesting at all other than "handguns, machine guns, rifles"?! Oh hey I watched that one Red Letter Media video about the game too.
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Apr 15, 2015 23:32
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Stux posted:maybe it helped I had really low expectations going in but ive been enjoying it and the gunplay is really fun and visceral v
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Apr 15, 2015 23:38
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Sleeveless posted:Oh hey I watched that one Red Letter Media video about the game too.
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Apr 15, 2015 23:48
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Sleeveless posted:Oh hey I watched that one Red Letter Media video about the game too. RLM does video game reviews now? Huh? 
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Apr 15, 2015 23:49
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I wish Plinkett did videogame reviews, AVGN is far too normal and I would honestly like a serial killer's perspective.
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Apr 16, 2015 00:11
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There's something a little too on-the-nose about a media-obsessed fat guy who subsists on pizza rolls and keeps women locked in his basement reviewing videogames imo
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Apr 16, 2015 00:44
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I haven't played The Order but the huge amount of backlash against it seems to be a reaction to the marketing more than anything else: if it had quietly come out with little fanfare nobody would have really cared but since the developers were running at the mouth about it being a revolution in cinematic storytelling and Sony tried to market it as a tentpole game people got really worked up at a game that was mostly just forgettably mediocre. It wasn't even that much fun to mock after thethe Xbox One's continuing trainwreck of broken and microtransaction-riddled first-party offerings. precision posted:RLM does video game reviews now? Huh? It's called Previously Recorded and it's all on YouTube, it's pretty hit-or-miss (Mike and Jay aren't really into video games so it's hosted by Rich Evans and Cancer Patient Moby) but their episode of The Order: 1886 has some good laughs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vG0zJ89Fv8c
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Apr 16, 2015 01:23
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Sleeveless posted:I haven't played The Order but the huge amount of backlash against it seems to be a reaction to the marketing more than anything else: if it had quietly come out with little fanfare nobody would have really cared but since the developers were running at the mouth about it being a revolution in cinematic storytelling and Sony tried to market it as a tentpole game people got really worked up at a game that was mostly just forgettably mediocre.
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Apr 16, 2015 01:44
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Quest For Glory II posted:Why are they talking to each other from isolated voids
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Apr 16, 2015 01:51
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CrashCat posted:This is probably true but everything you just mentioned was better in the new Wolfenstein ironically the new wolfenstein was actually really mediocre and had awful gunplay. that game got so hyped up here and then I played it and ugh. how do you go from the 2009 reboot to such a pile? never even finished it. Sleeveless posted:I haven't played The Order but the huge amount of backlash against it seems to be a reaction to the marketing more than anything else: if it had quietly come out with little fanfare nobody would have really cared but since the developers were running at the mouth about it being a revolution in cinematic storytelling and Sony tried to market it as a tentpole game people got really worked up at a game that was mostly just forgettably mediocre. yeah it's definitely not a revolution in any sense, but it's a fun game. the story and characters aren't a masterpiece but they're engaging enough to drive the game, the gameplay is way more scrappy than GoW and feels more like a faster paced TLOU and the graphics are legitimately fantastic. I have honestly not realised ive been given control again a few times as there's no downgrading of visuals from cutscenes to gameplay and it looks that drat good.
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Apr 16, 2015 02:24
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nu-wolfenstein was like the epitome of "good but not great" like i had no complaints other than underwhelming boss fights but there wasn't really that much that made me go "wow." the whole mood of "what if the nazis used wacky superscience to conquer the world with robots and build a moonbase, but also yeah they're genocidal monsters that murder millions of people" kind of prevents either it from being full-on horror or over-the-top fun, and it doesn't even quite gel into where eagles dare/guns of navaronne/the eagle has landed wwii action flick territory. (the new dlc does look like it'll be more lighthearted tho)
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Apr 16, 2015 03:23
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if you didn't have fun tearing up an aerospace museum with dual rocket launchers or escaping prison on a mech idk wtf
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Apr 16, 2015 03:29
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idk, i think it just might be that it was hyped up a bunch?
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Apr 16, 2015 03:32
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StashAugustine posted:idk, i think it just might be that it was hyped up a bunch? summer 2014 wasn't exactly halcyon days for new console game libraries after all goons were hyping anything and everything. anyone who quit before the end is dumb as gently caress though.
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Apr 16, 2015 03:35
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yeah, i finished it, enjoyed it, will prob pick up the dlc, but i didn't think it was mindblowing either. (also wasn't the 09 game incredibly mediocre?)
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Apr 16, 2015 03:46
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Enjoy Wolf New Order and Old Blood because I don't think there's like any good shooters coming out right now for the rest of 2015 I mean I'm sure there's a new COD and Battlefield and Far Cry coming but I'm talking about good shooters
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Apr 16, 2015 03:50
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Quest For Glory II posted:Enjoy Wolf New Order and Old Blood because I don't think there's like any good shooters coming out right now for the rest of 2015
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Apr 16, 2015 03:52
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I thought I was clear when I said good shooters
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Apr 16, 2015 03:54
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StashAugustine posted:idk, i think it just might be that it was hyped up a bunch? It's important to remember that when discussing media on the internet there is no such thing as "good" or "bad", only continuous fluctuations between "overrated" and "underrated".
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Apr 16, 2015 04:36
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video games are good
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Apr 16, 2015 10:20
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some video games arent fun.
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Apr 16, 2015 10:20
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other video games transcend art
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Apr 16, 2015 10:20
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video games are good
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Apr 16, 2015 10:21
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Quest For Glory II posted:Enjoy Wolf New Order and Old Blood because I don't think there's like any good shooters coming out right now for the rest of 2015 id rather play whatever the new CoD is than new order again
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Apr 16, 2015 11:42
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"the new order is like old shooters and really good because of it, because old shooters were just better somehow" the reason is you were 10 and new order doesn't regress your age so actually its bad
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Apr 16, 2015 11:43
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The New Order isn't really like old shooters though, or at least not Doom/Quake era run and gun shooters. You still move really slowly, have half your abilities locked behind skill trees, primarily rely on cover to avoid damage and use almost exclusively various flavours of hitscan guns; even the old-school concessions like overcharging your health work in such a way that they're of extremely fringe benefit Also old shooters are great, screw you Stux!
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Apr 16, 2015 12:41
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I liked Wolfenstein TNO but the thing that dragged it down for me is that I never really had enough ammo for the big guns to do anything fun with them so I just used the standard assault rifle pretty much the entire time. The laser gun/sniper rifle and laserkraftwerk have pretty tiny battery life and you get maxed out on rockets way too quick for them to be useful in normal combat. Also the robot enemies kinda suck because there's no real way to tell if you're hurting them until they spontaneously explode because you killed them. I agree with the guy that said it was good but not great tbh.
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Apr 16, 2015 12:55
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the order to hang yourself with a noose
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Apr 16, 2015 13:31
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VideoGames posted:some video games arent fun.
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Apr 16, 2015 13:42
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im not saying these two are the same thing but y'know...
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Apr 16, 2015 13:43
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Some video games you're just playing wrong and are totally perfect in every way.
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Apr 16, 2015 14:03
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i am so goddamn tired and i have to work until midnight instead of playing video games.
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Apr 16, 2015 14:06
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I never played The Order (and most likely never will) but I remember it having a pretty neat werezombie-ish enemy in the trailers that is actually intelligent but I think I read somewhere that they rarely pop up and instead you mow down tons of normal soldiers or something because that would mean it did something novel and fun and we can't have that in our AAA cover shooters.
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There are 2 fights with them in the entire game, although "the entire game" is not saying much because it's quite short.
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