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Choco1980 posted:The 90's were, in general, pretty lovely in retrospect. I say this as a guy who spent his entire teen years in that decade. Does that make me a 90's kid? I have zero good nostalgia for that decade. Unprecedented prosperity (even if it was also the beginning of squeezing the Middle and Lower Class thanks to Outsourcing, which would bear fruits after 2000) and Consumerism, the beginning of many social liberal policies (DADT was a tremendous step forward from what was before, even if we see it as lovely now) and the Western world won all wars (which happened far away from the US) inside of weeks and overwhelmingly. The time of the PS1, Dreamcast and N64. Early Internet and Multimedia/Cyber buzzwords. The nostalgia for the Nineties is already pretty strong and will only increase the longer the lovely current situation goes on.
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Men's hairstyles were shamefully stupid-looking in the 90s and I hope that poo poo never comes back.
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Bobby Digital posted:Denny's is pretty good on Twitter and should contract out their social media services to other businesses. They do, basically all the good food twitters are run by the same agency.
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Apr 16, 2015 10:23
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Apr 16, 2015 10:48
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There were some pseudo-50s styles (not the zoot suit poo poo that was popular for like a month) that were alright but it was usually combined with terrible haircuts and most dudes boiled it down to "ugly-rear end bowling shirt-style tops."
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Apr 16, 2015 10:56
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90 chat: Is there any video or piece of media that someone can post that shows the definitive change from the 90s look to the 2000's look? I'm thinking of all those terrible video game ads and stuff from the 90s and how they had a distinct flavor and I know those kinds of things don't exist in the same style now....but I can't pin it to an exact time or date. Anyone have examples of marketing progressing from the 80s/90s to today?
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Jastiger posted:90 chat: Is there any video or piece of media that someone can post that shows the definitive change from the 90s look to the 2000's look? I'm thinking of all those terrible video game ads and stuff from the 90s and how they had a distinct flavor and I know those kinds of things don't exist in the same style now....but I can't pin it to an exact time or date. I honestly think the best way to do this would be a time lapse of boyband music videos. Since boybands are first and foremost marketing platforms they are always decked out in the most gaudy fashionable styles, and since they are engineered to have different flavors of guy (the nerdy one, the sporty one, etc) they have a wide variety of styles.
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Apr 16, 2015 15:20
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9/11 changed everything.
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PUGGERNAUT posted:9/11 changed everything. and Janet Jackson's nipple. Also, the 90's were a weird time for fashion, because there was a major disconnect between how celebrities and commercials dressed and acted and how actual people did. Like, all that absurd stuff you see in retrospect to think "lol, 90's fashion" is almost always about ten times as outrageous as people ACTUALLY dressed at the time, ESPECIALLY in the early 90's with the ridiculous colors and way things fit.
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Apr 16, 2015 15:57
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90s fashion always makes me think of both florescent green baseball hats and neon pink t-shirts, and the exact opposite with the grunge flannel look.
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Re: corporate Twitter chat, DiGiorno accidentally making light of abusive relationships is my all-time favorite. http://foodspin.deadspin.com/pizza-apologizes-to-victims-of-domestic-violence-1632536910/+robharvilla
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Apr 16, 2015 17:53
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Dr_Amazing posted:90s fashion always makes me think of both florescent green baseball hats and neon pink t-shirts, and the exact opposite with the grunge flannel look. It makes me think of jeans and sweaters two sizes too big.
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Henchman of Santa posted:Re: corporate Twitter chat, DiGiorno accidentally making light of abusive relationships is my all-time favorite. EDIT: vvvvvv the article does not accept the apology, however. Simply Simon has a new favorite as of 18:16 on Apr 16, 2015 |
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Apr 16, 2015 18:11
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Simply Simon posted:I am actually perfectly okay with how they handled that. Awkward and even hurtful mistakes like that will always happen, but I fail to read the apologies as anything but absolute and genuine. No one is disputing that they're genuine. That's not why it's funny.
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Apr 16, 2015 18:13
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Simply Simon posted:EDIT: vvvvvv the article does not accept the apology, however. Gawker is pro-domestic violence so whatever.
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Well it's no pearl harbour spaghettios tweet
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Apr 16, 2015 19:07
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Avenging_Mikon posted:Wait, in Gilmore Girls? A lot of stupid stuff was said in that show, and it's been a few years since I've seen it, but I don't remember more than one episode even talking about gay people. It's pretty casual. Little things like calling things that are annoying "that's gay," or just calling a man's masculinity into question being the same as being gay. Once I noticed it the first time, I couldn't help but notice it a bunch.
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Apr 16, 2015 19:38
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PUGGERNAUT posted:9/11 changed everything. Without any irony or sarcasm, this is absolutely true. If you had to specify a date where, both culturally and politically, the 90s ended and the Aughts (or whatever) began, 9/11 is it. Aughts to 10s, however, is a lot more fuzzy. I think I'd put it somewhere in late 2008, with the recession and Obama's election, but I might be biased because that's also the year I started college.
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Apr 16, 2015 20:13
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FAROOQ posted:Gawker is pro-domestic violence so whatever. Based on?
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Henchman of Santa posted:Based on? Pageviews.
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ninjahedgehog posted:Without any irony or sarcasm, this is absolutely true. If you had to specify a date where, both culturally and politically, the 90s ended and the Aughts (or whatever) began, 9/11 is it. For the yanks maybe, it was a pretty big deal sure, but it wasn't the hallmark of my life :S
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Davfff posted:For the yanks maybe, it was a pretty big deal sure, but it wasn't the hallmark of my life :S Sorry, but your culture revolves around our culture.
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Apr 17, 2015 08:08
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This is a surprisingly common misspelling, at least here in Malaysia. God knows how many times I've had to correct people on this.
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Jastiger posted:Anyone have examples of marketing progressing from the 80s/90s to today? It's a bit gamey and techincal but there's a really detailed article somewhere on Gamasutra that deals with Sega's attempt to shoehorn both styles into the same marketing campaign with the Dreamcast's launch lineup (and how the campaign wound up falling completely flat due to mixed messages) but 20 minutes of searching hasn't turned it up. Hopefully someone else knows the title, it had a lot of good stuff about the Sonic franchise going off the rails into weird quasi-furry territory among other things.
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Yvonmukluk posted:I though I'd share some vintage dumb marketing ideas from the Great War days. Similarly, American Civil War-era advertising from 1865: 
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bucketmouse posted:It's a bit gamey and techincal but there's a really detailed article somewhere on Gamasutra that deals with Sega's attempt to shoehorn both styles into the same marketing campaign with the Dreamcast's launch lineup (and how the campaign wound up falling completely flat due to mixed messages) but 20 minutes of searching hasn't turned it up. Hopefully someone else knows the title, it had a lot of good stuff about the Sonic franchise going off the rails into weird quasi-furry territory among other things. Video Games have seemingly been one of the worst marketed things in my life time, and I say that as a guy who's always been a gamer, since like, before he could even read. It often felt like (especially in the 90's) that the PR departments actually had never played a game and had zero insight into gamer culture. Then there was the mid-90's where everything in ads became edgy, such as the infamous sega ads that looked like poorly masked technical instructions for masturbation. I even remember a Garfield game, which was about as kiddy aimed as a platformer would be in the late 90's, where the ad focused entirely on the fact that cats could lick their own genitals.
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 According to this Mental Floss article, "wet" referred to his anti-Prohibition stance.
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cheerfullydrab posted:Sorry, but your culture revolves around our culture. Not really, not anymore. Maybe he's right after all, if I was to try and pinpoint a time where this stopped being true, it was about 15 years ago...
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Davfff posted:Not really, not anymore. If you look at political and cultural developments in Western Europe, there is a clear break between the happy-go-lucky 'politically correct' nineties where it was assumed that Western liberal democracy would go on to conquer the world and immigrants would inevitably absorb our superior values, and the right-wing populist backlash that occurred in many countries during the 2000's when people realized this wasn't the case. It wasn't caused by the attacks on the Twin Towers, but it was certainly part of the same trend, and that date is as good as any. You don't have to get all 'Americans  '
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Henchman of Santa posted:Based on? the posted articles that celebrate domestic violence
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FAROOQ posted:the posted articles that celebrate domestic violence I have literally never seen a Gawker article celebrating domestic violence. This is the media group that produces Jezebel.
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Choco1980 posted:Video Games have seemingly been one of the worst marketed things in my life time, and I say that as a guy who's always been a gamer, since like, before he could even read. It often felt like (especially in the 90's) that the PR departments actually had never played a game and had zero insight into gamer culture. Then there was the mid-90's where everything in ads became edgy, such as the infamous sega ads that looked like poorly masked technical instructions for masturbation. I even remember a Garfield game, which was about as kiddy aimed as a platformer would be in the late 90's, where the ad focused entirely on the fact that cats could lick their own genitals. Even Nintendo had the bizarre Play It Loud campaign. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stvktzVjZJw gently caress you dad I'm playing Nintendo
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Choco1980 posted:It often felt like (especially in the 90's) that the PR departments actually had never played a game and had zero insight into gamer culture. Choco1980 posted:Then there was the mid-90's where everything in ads became edgy, such as the infamous sega ads that looked like poorly masked technical instructions for masturbation. I even remember a Garfield game, which was about as kiddy aimed as a platformer would be in the late 90's, where the ad focused entirely on the fact that cats could lick their own genitals. I don't know that seems pretty spot on
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Dr_Amazing posted:Even Nintendo had the bizarre Play It Loud campaign. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stvktzVjZJw The song from that ad is the Butthole Surfers' 'Goofy's Concern': quote:AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! The bolded parts are the ones they actually used.
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Henchman of Santa posted:I have literally never seen a Gawker article celebrating domestic violence. This is the media group that produces Jezebel. Funny you should mention Jezebel.
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FAROOQ posted:Funny you should mention Jezebel. Are you having fun being cryptic?
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Toast Museum posted:Are you having fun being cryptic? I guess I'll spoil his fun, Jezebel is a very divisive website among feminists, with probably most of them disliking it. It has been known for many faux pas like (this is an old example but whatever) a discussion on sexual assault with its writers that resulted in them turning up drunk and making a bunch of jokes about the subject instead of saying anything insightful. Gawker does a lot of hypocritical things like criticizing the Fappening but posting Hulk Hogan's sex videos on their site and posting candid pictures of female celebrities without their consent. Not entirely sure what the domestic violence thing FAROOQ is talking about is though since I have long started tuning out when I see the names of these sites. Basically, Gawker and Jezebel are both founded on getting clicks and anything they profess to as a principle is just them going along with what they think will facilitate that. Individual writers may be OK people but there are better places for them to be. There have certainly been suggestions that editors get them to deliberately post controversial stuff to bait people. Buzzfeed is the same, it has a very do-gooder liberal veneer but is owned by Gawker and ultimately its content is governed pretty solely by clickbait. What's even more annoying is that right wing people will use all these sites as an example of leftist/feminist hypocrisy while seemingly not realizing that reputable people and organizations despise them. So we get these sites full of awful content (often stolen or farted out for pageviews) that add insult to injury by claiming to be supportive of genuine progressive thought.
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