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Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.

Fantastic, as always, Ledgy. the vocals are occasionally drowned out a bit, but still very effective. The bridge is relatively weak, though.

Discendo Vox fucked around with this message at 06:36 on Apr 16, 2015

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Xythe
Aug 4, 2010

Stop getting mad at video games. No stop insulting his mother what is wrong with you.

I wouldn't have thought a Voyager+HBFS mashup would work, but drat if you didn't prove that thought wrong.

whaley
Aug 13, 2000

MY DOODOO IS SPRAYING OUT
I think it was more that Leggings think Jack was a secret bat boy and they added the chain weapon to this Hotline Miami to symbolize how Leg and Parsley Brothers have Bat Boy fuckin chAined down reeT REET

whaley
Aug 13, 2000

MY DOODOO IS SPRAYING OUT
The chicken man is about how monsanto putting crack cocaine in our chicken meats, and the guy dresses as a bear because he has body dysmorphia and think he is fat when he isn't and it's really sad.... Very touching game

LvK
Feb 27, 2006

FIVE STARS!!

whaley posted:

I think it was more that Leggings think Jack was a secret bat boy and they added the chain weapon to this Hotline Miami to symbolize how Leg and Parsley Brothers have Bat Boy fuckin chAined down reeT REET

Get a grip.

Rush Limbo
Sep 5, 2005

its with a full house

whaley posted:

I think it was more that Leggings think Jack was a secret bat boy and they added the chain weapon to this Hotline Miami to symbolize how Leg and Parsley Brothers have Bat Boy fuckin chAined down reeT REET

:agreed:

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747

Cloud Ghost posted:

The PTSD bit is what really invalidated HM1 Jacket. For me anyway. I always perceived his characters as just some guy who's a bit unhinged and really good at killing,. Both of those are still true, but in a way that's too real. He's now unhinged because he suffers from a serious mental disorder and is really good at killing because he's a war veteran. It's not that HM2 Jacket is inherently a bad character. Without HM1, I'd think he's fine. But I preferred his character when he was more akin to a Slasher villain or an ambiguous Driver type of guy. Having his actions linked to something more sympathetic just sort of makes HM1 a bit uncomfortable.

I don't think you entirely understood HM1 in the first place if that's actually much of a change. It's supposed to be deeply, deeply uncomfortable.

fishception
Feb 20, 2011

~carrier has arrived~
Oven Wrangler
Anyone else pumped for Hotline Kavkaz, coming out on Steam in JUST FOUR DAYS?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWUImqXmsGE

Skunkrocker
Jan 14, 2012

Your favorite furry wrestler.
So yeah, I made a full version of the Phone Hom font I made for that shirt in Fontstruct, you can get it here.

Brosnan
Nov 13, 2004

Pwning the incels with my waifu fg character. Get trolled :twisted:
Lipstick Apathy
So has anyone made a story guide yet that places the events of both games in chronological order? Seems like it would make it a lot easier to piece it all together.

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

Brosnan posted:

So has anyone made a story guide yet that places the events of both games in chronological order? Seems like it would make it a lot easier to piece it all together.

First all the stuff with the Ghost Wolves happens. Then HM1 happens. Then everything else from HM2 happens. Right?

The only tricky part is that HM1 and HM2 are themselves both non-linear. (And HM1 isn't even wholly consistent, although most of that is resolved by being Jacket's coma dream)

Irony Be My Shield
Jul 29, 2012

Jake's stuff is from before HM1. I think some of Richter's might be too?

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

Irony Be My Shield posted:

Jake's stuff is from before HM1. I think some of Richter's might be too?

Jake's stuff could kinda take place anyways, but yeah you're probably right.

Richter's stuff, yeah. At first I was thinking of Richter but then I couldn't think of what exactly was in a different time. But yeah, that stuff with his mom and where he first starts working for 50 blessings is pre-HM1, because that's before he gets sent after Jacket.

In HM1 Jacket and Biker's stories happen parallel, and in HM2 the fans and the son's stories happen parallel.

Rush Limbo
Sep 5, 2005

its with a full house
Here's my rough version:

Hawaii invasion
San Francisco bombing.
Richter's missions
Hotline Miami 1 (possibly coinciding with Richter's missions)

The HM2 stuff is sort of interconnected.

The Fans/Henchman/Son definitely ends before Pardo. Pardo comes across the aftermath of the Son going nuts.

Jake's is a bit of a weird one because Evan examines his personal affects, and Pardo is definitely on the "You should focus on the Miami Mutilator" kick rather than the Fans/50 Blessings.

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

Ddraig posted:

Here's my rough version:

Hawaii invasion
San Francisco bombing.
Richter's missions
Hotline Miami 1 (possibly coinciding with Richter's missions)

The HM2 stuff is sort of interconnected.

The Fans/Henchman/Son definitely ends before Pardo. Pardo comes across the aftermath of the Son going nuts.

Jake's is a bit of a weird one because Evan examines his personal affects, and Pardo is definitely on the "You should focus on the Miami Mutilator" kick rather than the Fans/50 Blessings.

Pardo and Evan and Richter all live to see the Nuke, so their stories end last. But Pardo's story begins long before The Son dies.
He's investigating the actions of The Fans as he's busy doing his own work.

I figured Jake was like The Fans or Martin Brown and came after Jacket, but I guess he could be more like Jake or Richter too, just part of the initial 50 blessings phone calls. I guess he'd have to be since the phone calls stop, in retrospect.
Somebody needs to just write down all the in-game dates.

Irony Be My Shield
Jul 29, 2012

You find Jake dead in HM1.

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

Irony Be My Shield posted:

You find Jake dead in HM1.

That's right. I keep forgetting because he wasn't the character he is now back then more than just a dead guy with a mask, and because I triggered the special ending for Jake the first time where he dies to 50 blessings guy, so in my head that's how he dies in canon, but in reality that's a bonus and he dies in the battle and then his body is left for HM1.

Brosnan
Nov 13, 2004

Pwning the incels with my waifu fg character. Get trolled :twisted:
Lipstick Apathy

Zaphod42 posted:

First all the stuff with the Ghost Wolves happens. Then HM1 happens. Then everything else from HM2 happens. Right?

The only tricky part is that HM1 and HM2 are themselves both non-linear. (And HM1 isn't even wholly consistent, although most of that is resolved by being Jacket's coma dream)

Yeah I'm talking on a scene-by-scene level of granularity, not just in general.

Stairmaster
Jun 8, 2012

Isn't the final cut the only level that doesn't give a date? Ignoring that it obviously takes place at the same time as the detective's nightmare.

A Bystander
Oct 10, 2012

Brosnan posted:

Yeah I'm talking on a scene-by-scene level of granularity, not just in general.

I could probably do a write-up in a while once I get some time to myself, unless someone else already has it mostly done.

Skunkrocker
Jan 14, 2012

Your favorite furry wrestler.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTidn2dBYbY

Full Battle Rattle
Aug 29, 2009

As long as the times refuse to change, we're going to make a hell of a racket.

Unknown
▪ The Soviet Union invades Hawaii, after sometime Hawaiian citizens start joining and support the Russian Military, this eventually leads upto the Hawaiian Conflict
After July 22, 1989
▪ Several of Midnight Animals scenes are filmed (Most Notably, Midnight Animal, and Final Cut)
Around December 2nd, 1991
▪ Midnight Animal is released.
1984
June
▪ A re-captured prison near Waipahu is once again re-captured by the Russian Military.
July
▪ The Prison (mentioned above) is retaken by the Ghost Wolves, and presumbly blown up.
Unknown
▪ A Russian controlled base near Midway Atoll is captured by the Ghost Wolves. 10 days later another base is taken over by the Ghost Wolves.
1985
March
▪ 17th - Evan Wright, then war reporter, takes a Polaroid picture of Beard and Jacket in front of a US army occupied bar in Hawaii. At night, the Ghost Wolves, lead by Beard, attack a Soviet outpost in the jungles of Hawaii and wipe out all enemy forces.
August
▪ 10th - A Captured Resort is taken over by the Ghost Wolves. The Resort may have been confused with the resort in Stronghold, It is unknown if this is a continuity error, or a different Resort. *
October
▪ 25th - Beard and his squad destroy a Russian military outpost based in a captured hotel. Before the mission, Beard expresses a desire to open a variety of stores after the war in front of his teammates, including Jacket.
▪ 30th - The Ghost Wolves attempt to take a power plant in Hawaii from the Soviet military forces in a seemingly suicide mission. Barnes is killed in an explosion and Daniels stays behind with him, while Beard rescues a wounded Jacket and gives him the Polaroid picture during the evacuation.  
1986
April
▪ 3rd - San Francisco is destroyed by a nuclear bomb. Beard, working at his shop, dies in the blast.
1989
April

▪ 1st - A protest rally turns violent leaving twenty injured and four dead.[1]
▪ 2nd - Richter begins his work with 50 Blessings shortly after they torched his car for not doing as they say. He assaults a Russian-owned cafe.
▪ 3rd - Jacket begins his work with 50 Blessings and goes to a subway station to collect a briefcase.
▪ 7th (Midnight Animal universe) - The Pig Butcher attacks a Russian apartment (according to this trailer)
▪ 8th - Jacket arrives at an apartment complex inhabited by the Russian mafia and kills all inhabitants.
▪ 10th - Richter attacks a well-guarded Russian warehouse.
▪ 16th - Jacket assaults another apartment building and murders all mobsters inside.
▪ 23rd - Richter assaults a Russian apartment.
▪ 25th - Jacket attacks a film producer's villa and rescue a drug-addled young woman. Jake shaves his head and has his first mission (according to Wrong Number).
▪ 27th - Jake joins 50 Blessings (according to comics).
May
▪ 2nd - An American pride march is held in Miami, which Jake joins in on. The march soon turns violent when an innocent Russian couple nearby are assaulted. Jake joins attacking the couple, but the mob is soon broken up by the cops. Upon returning to his apartment, he finds a rubber cobra mask from 50 Blessings.
▪ 5th - Jacket assaults a mafia-owned mansion and an explosion erupts from the second floor.
▪ 11th - Jacket performs another hit at a mafia-occupied house.
▪ 13th - Biker follows a lead to the Blue Dragon, a Chinese restaurant, in order to find 50 Blessings and end his affiliation with the group. Meanwhile, Jacket assaults mob-protected Hotel Blue and kills three politicians, dealing a heavy blow to the Russo-American coalition.
▪ 16th - Biker attacks a mafia-inhabited arcade.
▪ 23rd - Jacket invades an apartment complex before being tasked by 50 Blessings to stop Biker from tracing their calls. He drives to the local telephone company and beats Biker almost to death.
▪ 24th- Biker (possibly) traces 50 Blessings' calls and discovers the heart of the operation.
▪ 27th- Jacket performs another hit at a night club. From this point forward until June 8th, he begins to lose his hold on reality.
▪ 31st - Jacket intercepts a massive cocaine operation before the building is raided by the SWAT team and he escapes.
June
▪ 3rd - Jake is killed, either by mobsters or members of 50 Blessings. Jacket attacks a mafia-run spa house.
▪ 8th - Jacket performs a hit on a mafia-owned office complex. When he returns to his home, his girlfriend had been assassinated by Richter. Richter shoots Jacket in the chest and places him into a coma, where he relives the past few months' hits in a dream.
July
▪ 21st - Waking up from his coma, Jacket escapes the hospital he was staying at before the police could question him.
▪ 21st - Looking for Richter, Jacket attacks the local police precinct and kills every officer inside.
▪ 22nd - Jacket follows a police file to the Golden Truckstop, a mafia-run nightclub. He receives the location of the mafia don from the club owner, and kills the mafia head later that night, after which he disposes of the Polaroid. He is apprehended by police shortly thereafter.
1990
July
▪ 20th - While in prison, Richter gets a visit from The Janitors. Later he is forced by guards to fight a large inmate with 50 Blessings tattoos. During an ensuing riot, Richter escapes from prison.
1991
October
▪ 9th - A cargo shipment of Russian prostitutes is discovered by the Miami Port Authority.
▪ 9th - The Fans are on a patrol around a warehouse district. Ash Davis discovers a warehouse that had its gate lock cut. The Fans decide to investigate and run into a group of masked thieves raiding the warehouse. They are all killed by The Fans.
▪ 25th - Several armed criminals invade a department store before Detective Pardo intervenes and the police arrive.
▪ 31st - A gang-owned electronics workshop is attacked by the Fans.
November
▪ 5th - After getting a lead from Detective Pardo as a way to return an unspecified favor, Evan forces his way into a Russian casino to interview Petrov. Afterwards, he meets the detective at the bar and insists that Pardo still owes him the favor for putting his life in danger.
▪ 11th - Evan takes a subway train to visit and interview Richter's mother. On his way, he stumbles upon a gang of vandals and is forced to fight back.
▪ 18th - During a briefing with The Henchman, The Son decides to declare a gang war against Colombians by assaulting their strip club.
▪ 21st - The Henchman decides to quit the mafia and conducts his last hit on a chop shop working with the Colombians. As a parting gift from his boss, he receives a sample of a new psychoactive drug. While on the hit, he comes across a large bag of money and spares the life of an unwitting employee. The money bag is later seen by his girlfriend Mary back at home.
▪ 22nd - The Henchman discovers that while he slept, Mary stole the money and his car. He is heartbroken.
▪ 27th - Evan, using the favor Detective Pardo still owes him, acquires access to police evidence locker to study Jake's possessions.
December
▪ 2nd - The Fans attack a small gang hideout in a dilapidated building in order to bring back a friend's sister. They eventually leave without the girl, who was shocked by the brutal murder of her friends. On the way back their van breaks down, prompting them to plan a visit to the chop shop for repairs.
▪ Unknown date - The Fans assault a bar/drug den where the Henchman hides, tripping on the mafia's new drug. After disposing of all hoodlums, they beat him to death and Ash steals his mobile phone.
▪ 7th - The Son and his gang rob a bank, which presumably is tied to Colombians (their men are present among the guards).
▪ 9th - The Fans descend into the sewers to take on a local gang.
▪ 10th - Detective Pardo visits the home of Alex & Ash and plants a wallet seemingly taken from a bound man in his trunk. Later, he recklessly assaults on his own a large group of armed Colombian mobsters aboard a moored ship, endangering a police operation.
▪ 14th - Detective Pardo seeks a meeting with The Son at Mafia's HQ, but is refused, as the latter is busy preparing for a hit. Shortly after, The Son takes over what remains of the Colombian operation in Miami.
▪ 20th - Tipped by a phone call from The Son on the stolen mobile phone, The Fans plan and conduct an attack on the new Russian Mafia's base of operations. In parallel, The Son overdoses on psychoactive pills, kills almost all of The Fans in a drug-induced haze and falls from the roof to his death. Tony, the last surviving Fan, is shot dead by Detective Pardo.
▪ 27th (?) - Detective Pardo has a nightmare in which he, exposed as Miami Mutilator, fights his way through a police station and gets shot down at the exit. Upon waking up, he presumably barricades himself in his apartment, as he is shown in this state in the ending.
▪ 28th - The American and Russian presidents are killed by a group of armed men led by a retired general, during a conference of the Russo-American coalition in Washington. Miami is destroyed by a Russian nuclear strike in retaliation.


I wanted to see it all sequentially, as well. From the wiki.

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

Oh my god :allears:

stuffed crust punk
Oct 8, 2004

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

DOWN JACKET FETISH posted:

Anyone know off the top of their head whether the Richard mask in Abyss has teeth and blinks?

It does not.

The Saddest Rhino
Apr 29, 2009

Put it all together.
Solve the world.
One conversation at a time.



Finally, the best Tony costume



http://imgur.com/gallery/7G29O

Ledgy
Aug 1, 2013

Up against the wall

Ddraig posted:

Hawaii invasion
San Francisco bombing.
Richter's missions
Hotline Miami 1 (possibly coinciding with Richter's missions)

This is mostly right, but Release definitely takes place after HM1.

Pirate Jet
May 2, 2010
Dennis Wedin did an AMA. http://www.reddit.com/r/HotlineMiami/comments/331up5/i_am_dennis_wedin_of_dennaton_games_ama/

Pertinent information:

- We already knew that the level editor would let you play as Biker and Jacket, but now we know that Jacket will be able to wear any mask from HM1 as well.
- Custom intro and outro cutscenes will be possible. Custom characters and sprites will not, but they may add it in the future... maybe... probably not.
- The story of HM2 was mostly made up after the fact, though apparently they knew about the photo/Beard's history beforehand while making HM1.
- Dennaton is taking a break from game development, but they already have their next project lined up. It's a new IP and isn't top-down.
- Wedin's favorite level from either game is Execution, his favorite song Sexualizer.
- HM1 music in the level editor probably isn't happening. They've had some problems with the record labels of artists in the first game, meaning they probably won't be able to reuse it in any context.
- Pig butcher was never meant to be in HM1, despite all signs to the contrary.
- Dennaton doesn't really care about Bloodbath Kavkaz, though they did ask them to remove the "Hotline" from their name.
- Future of the level editor on the PS3 version is uncertain.

stuffed crust punk
Oct 8, 2004

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
Looks like custom vhs covers and campaigns too

Jehde
Apr 21, 2010

Pirate Jet posted:

- We already knew that the level editor would let you play as Biker and Jacket, but now we know that Jacket will be able to wear any mask from HM1 as well.
- Custom intro and outro cutscenes will be possible. Custom characters and sprites will not, but they may add it in the future... maybe... probably not.

UIApplication posted:

Looks like custom vhs covers and campaigns too

:woop:

Butt Ghost
Nov 23, 2013

Maybe we should remake Hotline Maimi 2, but with good level design.

Douk Douk
Mar 17, 2009

Take your pervert war elsewhere.

Butt Ghost posted:

Maybe we should remake Hotline Maimi 2, but with good level design.

Would be totally down for a HM2: Windowless Edition

Full Battle Rattle
Aug 29, 2009

As long as the times refuse to change, we're going to make a hell of a racket.

MONKET posted:

Would be totally down for a HM2: Windowless Edition

Even 50% windows would be a vast improvement

so many windows

Ledgy
Aug 1, 2013

Up against the wall
I made sure something terrible would never happen

Ledgy fucked around with this message at 09:00 on Apr 19, 2015

Injun Greenberg
Sep 14, 2011

Ledgy posted:

I made sure something terrible would never happen



Ha, nice.

Though, how will people be able to share levels? Will it just be over Steam workshop?

Erata
May 11, 2009
Lipstick Apathy

Ledgy posted:

I made sure something terrible would never happen



lmao. Also, you're a hero.

Ledgy
Aug 1, 2013

Up against the wall


Erata posted:

lmao. Also, you're a hero.

and a real human bean

Skunkrocker
Jan 14, 2012

Your favorite furry wrestler.

Ledgy posted:

I made sure something terrible would never happen



Just because you can't beat it doesn't mean someone else can't. :colbert:

Brosnan
Nov 13, 2004

Pwning the incels with my waifu fg character. Get trolled :twisted:
Lipstick Apathy
Check out my cool custom level where you spawn on a 3x3 tile island surrounded by dogs. I couldn't beat it but I'm sure someone will figure out a way!

poptart_fairy
Apr 8, 2009

by R. Guyovich

This makes me extremely uncomfortable.

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Instruction Manuel
May 15, 2007

Yes, it is what it looks like!

Brosnan posted:

Check out my cool custom level where you spawn on a 3x3 tile island surrounded by dogs. I couldn't beat it but I'm sure someone will figure out a way!

Kaizo Miami.

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