drakegrim posted:

Luigi Thirty posted:

So what you're really saying is they're driving out good white folk and building shops for their kind and their kind only?

drakegrim posted:

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Radish posted:

Just offhand but it's really surprising a racist poo poo like Jeremy Clarkson would finally let it slip and physically assault a man because he got the wrong meal. It's almost like being a racist poo poo is indicative of being an awful person in general.

SedanChair posted:

Ah, your king. But he finally lost his job for being a violent, intolerable buffoon, as all of your kind are unable to resist in the end.

quote:

A Rhode Island native educated at Phillips Academy and Brown University, Chafee worked as a professional farrier for seven years before entering state politics in 1985. This seven year period shoeing horses, during which he became the most sought after blacksmith in his village, made him the obvious choice for delegate to the Rhode Island State Constitutional Convention

Radish posted:

Just offhand but it's really surprising a racist poo poo like Jeremy Clarkson would finally let it slip and physically assault a man because he got the wrong meal. It's almost like being a racist poo poo is indicative of being an awful person in general.

drakegrim posted:

I did not know he wrote Info@barack... although no one ever monitors that e-mail anyway. He should have gotten in contact with his state senator and tried to go the right way for protesting... get authorities involved, etc.

On Terra Firma posted:

Can you run for president if you grew up in skyrim?

Radish posted:

Clarkson is a great example that being "politically incorrect" isn't nearly as career ruining as racists complain it is. It took him beating on his producer for half a minute in order to get fired and there was a huge outpouring of support for him.

drakegrim posted:

every race is racist, i have seen more racism in the black community, but i have meet a lot of great black Americans as well.

If anything, Asians have more right to be racist... they clearly look much different then everyone else, and they where enslaved longer then every race combined and treated like poo poo.

On Terra Firma posted:

Can you run for president if you grew up in skyrim?

quote:

President Obama’s approval ratings are hovering a few points below 50 percent, and his party is seeking a third straight term in the White House. Most analysts see this as a toss-up scenario. I see it as a highly favorable situation for the Democrats that would require a major event, like an economic downturn, to change. What accounts for the difference? At the bottom, it is about whether American presidential politics are following the same basic rules they have for decades, or whether the game has changed. I believe the game has changed, and the thing that’s changed is polarization.

The logic that predicts a toss-up election is rooted in the perfectly sound assumption that the historical models give us the best guide to the future. A third straight term from a party whose president has middling approval ratings sits right on the probability fault line, historically. As Nate Silver writes, “these cases default to being toss-ups.”

The trouble is that almost all those cases are drawn from a historic period that is very different from the current one. During the 20th century, the two parties were extremely heterogeneous. The Republican Party had a moderate wing that dominated its presidential elections for most of the postwar years until Ronald Reagan. Democrats had a powerful southern conservative wing. In that environment, the old folk wisdom, “Vote the man, not the party,” made a great deal of sense. In that environment, large chunks of the electorate swung easily from one party to the other depending on transient factors, like the current state of peace and prosperity, rather than deeper values.

The splitting of American politics into two coherent ideological parties with very little programmatic overlap changes things. Voters who are fundamentally attached to one party or the other are not going to abandon their team merely because their party has held onto office for too many terms, or because the other party’s president is presiding over a nice recovery. Those factors are not meaningless because some swing voters do still exist. And performance can change voter perceptions to a degree; a deep recession might make some Democrats doubt their party’s economic program. But these temporal effects are muted.

Emory political scientists Alan Abramowitz and Steven Webster have a new paper, not yet available online, exploring the nature of the new polarization. The paper is filled with interesting findings, but the major one is an attempt to resolve a paradox. Measured by self-identification, partisanship is actually declining — growing numbers of Americans describe themselves as “independent” rather than loyal to one of the parties. But measured by actual voting behavior, the opposite is happening: Straight ticket voting continues to grow. This matches what operatives like Dan Pfeiffer have seen, and what Karl Rove saw a decade before — the swing voter had nearly vanished.

One common explanation is that it has become increasingly vogue, especially among college-educated voters, to describe yourself as independent, which implies that you form educated judgments about politics rather than blindly following the dictates of a party. Abramowitz and Webster add to this by introducing a phenomenon they call negative partisanship. That is to say, voters form strong loyalties based more on loathing for the opposing party than on the old kind of tribal loyalty (“My daddy was a Democrat, his daddy was a Democrat …”) that used to prevail. The party system has split along racial, cultural, and religious lines, creating a kind of tribal system where each party’s supports regard the other side with incomprehension and loathing.

Shageletic posted:

Interesting article by Nymag (who's been really stepping it up lately)


http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/04/negative-partisanship-has-transformed-politics.html

Solkanar512 posted:

Wait, he was beating the crap out of him for an extended length of time? I thought he just threw a single punch. Holy poo poo, what an rear end in a top hat. I mean, one punch is bad enough, I didn't realize this was a full on brawl.

Unzip and Attack posted:

This isn't a paradox. More Republicans are rightfully ashamed of their Party's association with bigotry, anti-intellectualism, and overt obstructionism so they tell everyone they are "Independent". Self-identified Independent voters always break conservative come election day.

Amergin posted:

27/44/28 split R/I/D, 44/42 R/D with "leaners"/pushing independents to one or the other, as of March 2015.

Azuth0667 posted:

What happens when a useless major becomes something crucially important because of changing world circumstances?

lamentable dustman posted:

The IAM stopped the vote to Unionize the Boeing SC plant

http://www.postandcourier.com/article/20150417/PC05/150419429

drakegrim posted:

haven't a lot of democrats been put to shame lately over bigotry as well..


1) "(Obama’s) a nice person, he’s very articulate this is what’s been used against him, but he couldn’t sell watermelons if it, you gave him the state troopers to flag down the traffic." -- Dan Rather

2) “White folks was in the caves while we [blacks] was building empires … We built pyramids before Donald Trump ever knew what architecture was … we taught philosophy and astrology and mathematics before Socrates and them Greek homos ever got around to it." -- Al Sharpton

3) "‘Hymies.’ ‘Hymietown.’" -- Jesse Jackson’s description of New York City while on the 1984 presidential campaign trail.

4) "A few years ago, (Barack Obama) would have been getting us coffee." -- Bill Clinton to Ted Kennedy

5) "The Israeli puppeteer travels to Washington and meets with the puppet in the White House. He then goes down Pennsylvania Avenue and meets with the puppets in Congress. The Israeli leader then 'brings back millions of dollars' in aid to Israel." -- Ralph Nader

6) "(Harry Reid) was wowed by Obama's oratorical gifts and believed that the country was ready to embrace a black presidential candidate, especially one such as Obama -- a 'light-skinned' African American 'with no Negro dialect, unless he wanted to have one." -- Harry Reid's comments reported by Mark Halperin and John Heilemann

7) "I do not think it is an exaggeration at all to say to my friend from West Virginia [Sen. Robert C. Byrd, a former Ku Klux Klan recruiter] that he would have been a great senator at any moment. . . . He would have been right during the great conflict of civil war in this nation." -- Former Democratic Senator Christopher Dodd (D.,Conn.)

8) “Civil rights laws were not passed to protect the rights of white men and do not apply to them.” -- Mary Frances Berry, former Chairwoman, US Commission on Civil Rights

9) "Tainting the tea party movement with the charge of racism is proving to be an effective strategy for Democrats. There is no evidence that tea party adherents are any more racist than other Republicans, and indeed many other Americans. But getting them to spend their time purging their ranks and having candidates distance themselves should help Democrats win in November. Having one’s opponent rebut charges of racism is far better than discussing joblessness." -- Mary Frances Berry, former Chairwoman, US Commission on Civil Rights

10) “Well, because the Arabs who were involved in 9/11 cooperated with the Zionists, actually. It was a cooperation. They gave them the perfect excuse to denounce all Arabs. It’s a racist sort of thing, really racist – you know, picking out these 19 or 20 terrorists – they were terrorists – and saying all the Arabs are like them.” — Former Democratic Senator James Abourezk on Hizbullah TV

11) "Let me see one of you adopt one of those ugly black babies." -- Abortionist Ashutosh Ron Virmani

12) “There’s no great, white bigot; there’s just about 200 million little white bigots out there.” -- USA Today columnist Julienne Malveaux

13) "Them Jews aren’t going to let (Obama) talk to me. I told my baby daughter, that he’ll talk to me in five years when he’s a lame duck, or in eight years when he’s out of office. …They will not let him talk to somebody who calls a spade what it is.” -- Jeremiah Wright

14) "There’s white racist DNA running through the synapses of his or her brain tissue. They will kill their own kind, defend the enemies of their kind or anyone who is perceived to be the enemy of the milky white way of life." -- Jeremiah Wright

15) "The white man is our mortal enemy, and we cannot accept him. I will fight to see that vicious beast go down into the lake of fire prepared for him from the beginning, that he never rise again to give any innocent black man, woman or child the hell that he has delighted in pouring on us for 400 years.” -- Louis Farrakhan

16) “White people shouldn’t be allowed to vote. It’s for the good of the country and for those who’re bitter for a reason and armed because they’re scared.” -- Left-wing journalist Jonathan Valania

17) "(Joseph Lowery) said that when he was a young militant, he used to say all white folks were going to hell. ...'Then he mellowed and just said most of them were. Now, he said, he is back to where he was.’" -- The Daily Mail quotes Joseph Lowery, who gave the benediction at President Obama’s inauguration

18) "We are owned by propagandists against the Arabs. There’s no question about that. Congress, the White House, and Hollywood, Wall Street, are owned by the Zionists. No question in my opinion. They put their money where their mouth is…We’re being pushed into a wrong direction in every way." -- Helen Thomas

19) “You cannot go to a 7-11 or Dunkin Donuts unless you have a slight Indian Accent.” -- Joe Biden

20) “I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that’s a storybook, man.” -- Joe Biden

21) "I give interracial couples a look. Daggers. They get uncomfortable when they see me on the street." -- Spike Lee

22) “I want to go up to the closest white person and say: ‘You can’t understand this, it’s a black thing’ and then slap him, just for my mental health.” — New York City Councilman, Charles Barron

23) "We got to do something about these Asians coming in and opening up businesses and dirty shops. They ought to go." -- Marion Barry

24) “The point I was making was not that Grandmother harbors any racial animosity. She doesn’t. But she is a typical white person…” -- Barack Obama

25) “That’s just how white folks will do you. It wasn’t merely the cruelty involved; I was learning that black people could be mean and then some. It was a particular brand of arrogance, an obtuseness in otherwise sane people that brought forth our bitter laughter. It was as if whites didn’t know that they were being cruel in the first place. Or at least thought you deserving of their scorn.” -- Barack Obama

Edit: resource.. http://townhall.com/columnists/johnhawkins/2013/03/26/25-examples-of-liberal-racism-in-quotes-n1549044/page/full

Gravel Gravy posted:

Kind of obvious Boeing would spread that kind of information around since the only reason it's in North Charleston was to punish the previous Union workers they moved the plant from.

drakegrim posted:

Min wage is a way to create incentive's for individuals to pick them selves up and do something better... your telling me that a McDonald worker has the right to earn more money then the city trash collector, EMT's, Nurses, etc????

SedanChair posted:

1) Chattel slavery

2) Jim Crow

3) The Klan

Amergin posted:

Give me a realistic example where spending four years studying Shakespeare will ever become crucially important and levereagable, as opposed to computer skills that you can use in most job opportunities these days (even min. wage ones).

Amergin posted:

All history while you quietly ignore the quotes of present day racism.

drakegrim posted:

Min wage is a way to create incentive's for individuals to pick them selves up and do something better... your telling me that a McDonald worker has the right to earn more money then the city trash collector, EMT's, Nurses, etc????

Amergin posted:

All history while you quietly ignore the quotes of present day racism.

Zelder posted:

I dunno man that list has stuff from like 1984

drakegrim posted:

it does, but its still racist regardless of the date.

Zelder posted:

Actually nope, Amergin just said that racism in the past doesn't count. We can only talk about present day racism, because the incredibly racist legacies of actions and parties don't count.

Amergin posted:

Give me a realistic example where spending four years studying Shakespeare will ever become crucially important and levereagable, as opposed to computer skills that you can use in most job opportunities these days (even min. wage ones).

ErichZahn posted:

I take it that nobody's mentioned the formation of the seventh party system and Southern Strategy?

drakegrim posted:

Min wage is a way to create incentive's for individuals to pick them selves up and do something better... your telling me that a McDonald worker has the right to earn more money then the city trash collector, EMT's, Nurses, etc????

Fried Chicken posted:

http://m.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2013/06/the-best-argument-for-studying-english-the-employment-numbers/277162/


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