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Jack Skeleton
Dec 7, 2006
Hey, maybe we'll see twisty again?
https://roadtrippers.com/blog/americas-scariest-motel-is-haunted-by-hundreds-of-clowns

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Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!


H.H. Holmes' hotel is one of the most hilarious things in history to me because it was literally designed as a murder hotel and somehow nobody noticed when they were building it.

Spoeank
Jul 16, 2003

That's a nice set of 11 dynasty points there, it would be a shame if 3 rings were to happen with it
Season 5 about monsters confirmed

:v:

Gatekeeper
Aug 3, 2003

He was warrior and mystic, ogre and saint, the fox and the innocent, chivalrous, ruthless, less than a god, more than a man.
Whenever I visit another city I try to stay at the local haunted hotel if possible and despite never seeing a cool scary ghost I still usually enjoy it (the Bourbon Orleans in the French Quarter was particularly spooktastic) so I'll give this a shot. Lady Gaga seems pretty cool but I can't confirm that.

OmegaBR
Feb 14, 2012

Come to me .... and live forever.
First impression is that this is exactly what the show doesn't need - a big time celebrity star to basically have a season dedicated to her with Gaga effectively becoming the new Lange.

It's interesting for sure, but not exactly in line with the theory that Murphy would have to focus on the plot again now that his leading lady is gone.

As for the theme of the hotel, I would love an H.H. Holmes season (though it would probably go better with the new American Crime Story theme at this point.) But it'll probably be pretty generic stuff about an old historic hotel with a haunted history renovated into a luxury tower with Gaga as the glamorous unglamorous hotel maid slash wannabe singer celebrity.

Sleeveless
Dec 25, 2014

by Pragmatica

angerbeet posted:

Hmm, I remember a thread about a hotel in GBS with like, secret torture rooms and gas-nozzles and the like, maybe from the 50's or something? I will look, it puts me in mind of that.

American Horror Story: Hey Guys I Found This Locked Safe In The Walls Of My House I Wonder What's Inside

Gatekeeper
Aug 3, 2003

He was warrior and mystic, ogre and saint, the fox and the innocent, chivalrous, ruthless, less than a god, more than a man.

Sleeveless posted:

American Horror Story: Hey Guys I Found This Locked Safe In The Walls Of My House I Wonder What's Inside

This season's big bad will be a turtle without its shell.

OmegaBR
Feb 14, 2012

Come to me .... and live forever.
A couple hotels worth considering for inspiration, featured on other programs:

Buck Hill Inn - a hotel in the Poconos that gave relief to travelers from New York to Philadelphia, it grew to 400 rooms, a pool, and elegant lobby and dining facilities, as well as staff facilities in the basement. Allegedly the site of murders and supernatural occurrences (though probably largely fabricated.) It was featured on MTV's Fear.

Three Valley Chateau - a sprawling 200 room hotel and resort in British Columbia nestled in between mountains, a lake, and a historic ghost town. Home to unique rooms, such as the cave suite and the telephone lounge, it also supposedly serves as a hotbed of paranormal activity from those who died in the arena when the resort is left barren during the off season. It was featured on Syfy's Stranded.

So it doesn't necessarily have to be the historic downtown or seedy motel type of hotel. It could go for the isolated-from-society hook, which isn't really something we've gotten yet, and was a key factor in the Badlands idea.

Jack Skeleton
Dec 7, 2006
We all know that the real inspiration to this season started when Murphy drove up from Los Angeles to S.F. via the 101 and passed by the most terrorfying place of all....

The Madonna Inn
http://www.madonnainn.com/


Ooor perhaps it's partially the Winchester House.
http://www.winchestermysteryhouse.com/

King Vidiot
Feb 17, 2007

You think you can take me at Satan's Hollow? Go 'head on!
Knowing Ryan Murphy it'll probably have elements of everything we just speculated and then some. It'll be entertaining at first then slowly descend into a convoluted mess and we'll all swear that we're "quitting the show forever" by the end.

Then the next season will be announced and we'll all come back anyways.

DeathSandwich
Apr 24, 2008

I fucking hate puzzles.

bonestructure posted:

I'd love to see Frances Conroy given the chance to carry a season.

This is from a few pages back, but I remember watching the first episode of Six Feet Under with commentary from Alan Ball. He was talking about how when they were filming the scene when Frances' character found out her husband was just killed that she could snap into that screaming crying fit like a light switch going off in a way that absolutely floored him. Ball also said something along the line of "I could tell her that in the next scene she was going to murder and cook a puppy and she would nod her head and say 'how do you want me to cook it?'"

So yeah, she could be perfect for carrying a season of AHS

MadSparkle
Aug 7, 2012

Can Bernie count on you to add to our chest's mad sparkle? Can you spare a little change for an old buccaneer?

TheBizzness posted:

If you're in the group that hates that this show has turned into Glee for Goths I don't know how you can like this news.

If you liked Coven and Freekshow this season will probably blow your socks off, though.

I'm just annoyed by the news. AHS needs less celebrities and more focus on the story. Instead, Ryan Murphy has found a shiny doll to play with and replace Lange. Never mind the outstanding talents of the cast he already has....nnooooo, it's just not fabulous and shiny enough!

bonestructure
Sep 25, 2008

by Ralp

DeathSandwich posted:

This is from a few pages back, but I remember watching the first episode of Six Feet Under with commentary from Alan Ball. He was talking about how when they were filming the scene when Frances' character found out her husband was just killed that she could snap into that screaming crying fit like a light switch going off in a way that absolutely floored him. Ball also said something along the line of "I could tell her that in the next scene she was going to murder and cook a puppy and she would nod her head and say 'how do you want me to cook it?'"

So yeah, she could be perfect for carrying a season of AHS

She is really an underrated actor, she would be amazing as the lead. "BALANCIEGA!!!" was the one good moment of Coven aside from Evan Peters' perpetually-naked rear end.

xeria posted:

What they also need to do is get Lily Rabe back at all costs. :colbert:

this too

bonestructure fucked around with this message at 19:49 on Feb 28, 2015

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal
Apparently it wasn't official that Lange was leaving before, because it is now.

the_american_dream
Apr 12, 2008

GAHDAMN

Waffleman_ posted:

H.H. Holmes' hotel is one of the most hilarious things in history to me because it was literally designed as a murder hotel and somehow nobody noticed when they were building it.

He fired contractors constantly so no one would know the layout but him

El Tortuga
Apr 27, 2007

ĄTerrible es el Guerrero de Tortuga!

the_american_dream posted:

He fired contractors constantly so no one would know the layout but him

Yeah, but still, you get contracted to build a room with no windows and with a means of pumping gas into said room?

"What's that? Stairs that go right up into the ceiling and doors that open to brick walls? Well, whatever you want. You're paying."

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal
Confirmed names for season 5 beyond Gaga: Kathy Bates, Matt Bomer, Chloe Sevigny, Wes Bentley, Cheyenne Jackson.

Dugong
Mar 18, 2013

I don't know what to do,
I'm going to lose my mind

I will watch this just for Shelley

A. Beaverhausen
Nov 11, 2008

by R. Guyovich

Goddammit Lily Rabe better be in this season.

King Vidiot
Feb 17, 2007

You think you can take me at Satan's Hollow? Go 'head on!
I hope Wes Bentley gets a bigger role this time because he was one of the best parts of last season and he was hardly in it.

Chairman Capone
Dec 17, 2008


Haha, Cheyenne Jackson, seriously? The guy who was so dull on 30 Rock his whole storyline devolved into joking about people forgetting he was on the show until he stopped being on the show.

Grin and Tonic
Oct 20, 2008

having a blast online

Whalley posted:

I just watched the finale, and what the gently caress was the point of anything at all in this whole season.

I've gone back and reread most of this thread, and there isn't anything really new I can say that hasn't been said, but honestly. I finally sat down and watched all of Freak Show and ughhhhh. I thought Coven was really bad, but at least it had some campy, fun stuff and an interesting locale. I was so excited for this, too, the first 4-5 episodes were really cool, loved the time period and the aesthetic, the characters seemed okay barring Jessica Lange once again playing the same tired routine but this time with a horrible accent and somehow even harder to like than Fionna in Coven. Jimmy was completely useless but, yeah, again has every woman in the show pining after him for...reasons? At least Kit in AHS 2 was fairly heroic. And what a wasted, wasted, wasted arc they could have had with Chiklis and Jimmy, reuniting father and son as boozy alcoholics, but sadly to pretty much drop that all together because Chiklis doesn't want it to be revealed he's gay?

And then everything just went to absolute poo poo after they completely remove Twisty, who was to me, probably the scariest character AHS has ever created. They even ruin his whole backstory, not even for a generic "I was blamed for something I didn't do, I'll show em all" plot, but also one where he is actually a really nice guy and mentally handicapped and sad plot line. I remember the ads for this really focusing on Twisty as a driving part of the show, and now I see why, because the rest of it was so incredibly dull and stupid that was pretty much the best bit. How the hell can you have basically nothing happen and then try to cram in and resolve all the plot lines in 1 and 1/2 episodes? Why did they introduce a new character, NPH, so far towards the end and focus on him so much when it pretty much had no effect on the story or the characters beyond the twins getting laid? Why did Maggie, who had been written as a smart character able to stay at least a couple steps ahead, suddenly turn into a bouncy cheerleader when NPH needed someone to get into the box? Why did nobody help her when Angela Bassett's, who suddenly does a 180 on her opinion of Maggie ("the bitch deserved it"), was the only one to really know she had a hand in Ma Petite's death? Why did the writers cram the whole "we hate Elsa" "no we love her" "no we have to kill her" flip flopping of the freaks into the last 2 episodes? I just stopped giving a gently caress about anything and pretty much held on to see how bad this was going to get and then...

Why did Elsa go to heaven??? Nothing in this season worked at all, a shame with a fantastic setup and wonderful set pieces. I'm guessing with Hotel they're going to try and get back to their roots, but I really have to say I wish this poo poo would be sort of scary again and stop with the campiness already. I feel like Ryan Murphy wants to focus on the "fun, goofy" or "DIVA, Dame" types, like the freaks or Lange and Bassett, instead of the truly scary characters, Twisty and Dandy. It's called American HORROR Story, dude. Even the freaks' revenge on Dandy was so dull when you think about it, I mean, really? A houdini tank drowning has been down at least 3-4 times in other properties, and meanwhile they disfigured huge dick man and barely showed that.

Grin and Tonic fucked around with this message at 14:02 on Apr 14, 2015

Grin and Tonic
Oct 20, 2008

having a blast online
also:

Tyrone Biggums posted:

I hate all of this every second gently caress you Ryan Murphy

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/sarah-paulson-returning-american-horror-788397?sf8567864=1

Grin and Tonic
Oct 20, 2008

having a blast online

quote:

Playing the "baddest bad girl of them all," showrunner Ryan Murphy says.

:|

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


Yeah, the more news that comes out about Hotel, the more I'm thinking it's my last season unless an absolute miracle happens and it's actually good start to finish

How is the same person that made Asylum the same person that made this poo poo

Doltos
Dec 28, 2005

🤌🤌🤌
I really hope they give Bates a better character. She's a fantastic actress and was held back by he campy bullshit in Coven and the terrible Maryland accent bland character in Freak Show. Bates' best characters are strong female roles where she's either psychotic (Misery) or is matronly to a group of women (Fried Green Tomatoes, Titanic).

I think that's why it was a crime that her character didn't have more influence over the girls in Coven because her character's direction could have easily dominated that season as the evil witch who tries to take over the Coven. Instead they just made her a running punchline (punching bag) for Look How Racist We Aren't! messages from Ryan Murphy's writing team. Last season her character was just this broken down woman who no one listened to and could have easily been replaced by not being there at all. Like she got loving murdered and all the writers could come up with was having her welcome Elsa into heaven.

Grin and Tonic
Oct 20, 2008

having a blast online
based on her performances in AHS, I'm honestly baffled how Gabourey Sidibe was nominated for best actress in Precious.

vainman
Nov 2, 2012

I find your lack of faith... disturbing
I haven't read the whole thread but lol at the Ilsa, She Wolf of the SS reference in episode 4

the_american_dream
Apr 12, 2008

GAHDAMN

Grin and Tonic posted:

based on her performances in AHS, I'm honestly baffled how Gabourey Sidibe was nominated for best actress in Precious.

probably a good idea to watch the movie she was nominated for

Grin and Tonic
Oct 20, 2008

having a blast online
Yeah, I've seen it. I meant she was amazing in that, but pretty bad in AHS. I'm assuming it's her lines she has to tackle.

kjetting
Jan 18, 2004

Hammer Time

Doltos posted:

I really hope they give Bates a better character. She's a fantastic actress and was held back by he campy bullshit in Coven and the terrible Maryland accent bland character in Freak Show. Bates' best characters are strong female roles where she's either psychotic (Misery) or is matronly to a group of women (Fried Green Tomatoes, Titanic).

I think that's why it was a crime that her character didn't have more influence over the girls in Coven because her character's direction could have easily dominated that season as the evil witch who tries to take over the Coven. Instead they just made her a running punchline (punching bag) for Look How Racist We Aren't! messages from Ryan Murphy's writing team. Last season her character was just this broken down woman who no one listened to and could have easily been replaced by not being there at all. Like she got loving murdered and all the writers could come up with was having her welcome Elsa into heaven.

For the next season I want Murphy and team to write the characters they come up with for each actor on a card, shuffle the deck, and reassign them.

Blazing Ownager
Jun 2, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

kjetting posted:

For the next season I want Murphy and team to write the characters they come up with for each actor on a card, shuffle the deck, and reassign them.

Would that really be better than the dartboard system they use now?

QuickbreathFinisher
Sep 28, 2008

by reading this post you have agreed to form a gay socialist micronation.
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Blazing Ownager posted:

Would that really be better than the dartboard system they use now?

They must have pretty solid aim, they keep hitting Jessica Lange's picture with the "calculating yet classy manipulative queen bitch" dart.

angerbot
Mar 23, 2004

plob

Grin and Tonic posted:

Yeah, I've seen it. I meant she was amazing in that, but pretty bad in AHS. I'm assuming it's her lines she has to tackle.

There's only so much you can do as an actor when confronted with Minotaur slavery magic rape???

A. Beaverhausen
Nov 11, 2008

by R. Guyovich
"Bitch I will eat you" was the single best thing about Coven. Other than Rabe of course.

Wungus
Mar 5, 2004

kjetting posted:

For the next season I want Murphy and team to write the characters they come up with for each actor on a card, shuffle the deck, and reassign them.

Evan Peters as the seductive yet lonely old woman, subtly trying to manipulate everyone, would be the best show I've seen in my life.

Like no punchline, no mention at all that it's Evan Peters behind that summer frock and turkey neck. Amazing.

Doltos
Dec 28, 2005

🤌🤌🤌

QuickbreathFinisher posted:

They must have pretty solid aim, they keep hitting Jessica Lange's picture with the "calculating yet classy manipulative queen bitch" dart.

More like the stumble around the set with a glass of whiskey triple mark.

kjetting
Jan 18, 2004

Hammer Time

Whalley posted:

Evan Peters as the seductive yet lonely old woman, subtly trying to manipulate everyone, would be the best show I've seen in my life.

Like no punchline, no mention at all that it's Evan Peters behind that summer frock and turkey neck. Amazing.

Next to Lange, Peters is the most typecast actor in the series. For both of them you could write a pretty detailed character description that could be applied to any of their four characters on the show.

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katium
Jun 26, 2006

Purrs like a kitten.
Taissa Farmiga isn't coming back? I loved her in Season 1, and she was pretty much the only reason I slogged through Season 3.

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