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blunt for century posted:He's right about this one though I think Pataki might be the candidate for you. Someone asked him "Beer or wine?" and he answered "Both ... beer during the day, wine at night.”
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Apr 18, 2015 20:12
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Death to white whiskeys.
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Apr 18, 2015 20:19
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tsa posted:"used car salesman" is such a stupid critique, which basically means "i dont like this white guy". It applied pretty well to Herman Cain.
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Apr 18, 2015 20:29
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Cruz gives me more of a televangelist vibe than used car salesman. Probably because he essentially is a televangelist.
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Apr 18, 2015 20:38
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blunt for century posted:every southern state would have moonshine and it would be amazing Walker would be drinking these all night long:  Chicken Bloody Mary from Sobelman's Bar in Milwaukee, WI.
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Apr 18, 2015 20:45
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Is that garnished with a chick...why yes it is. Graham is just a fun guy. I kind of wish he would make it to the general because he would lose honorably and seeing him and Hillary face off in a platitude contest would be hilarious. But I definitely think a batshit conservative (Paul) should be the pick, because like Goldwater, the crazy wing of the GOP can then fail spectacularly and lose power for a couple of decades.
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Apr 18, 2015 21:25
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When it comes to Bloody Mary's, it's all about the garnishes. I would love to see Rubio drink a Cuba Libre, though!
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Apr 18, 2015 21:34
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Joementum posted:I'm glad Lindsey Graham is in the race so we get lines like this: These are really funny, though. The line about Presbyterians is almost clever.
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Apr 18, 2015 21:35
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SedanChair posted:But I definitely think a batshit conservative (Paul) should be the pick, because like Goldwater, the crazy wing of the GOP can then fail spectacularly and lose power for a couple of decades. I wish I could think this is what would happen. But instead I suspect we'll see the crazy wing continue to insist that they only failed because they didn't go crazy enough and keep doubling down until eventually the GOP goes kaboom.
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SedanChair posted:But I definitely think a batshit conservative (Paul) should be the pick, because like Goldwater, the crazy wing of the GOP can then fail spectacularly and lose power for a couple of decades. But Nixon won four years later, and Reagan almost won 12 years later (and did win 16 years later)?! 
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Apr 18, 2015 21:44
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Didn't Goldwater's defeat invigorate factions of the GOP and birth the crazy wing we know today? I mean the dude was batshit, but he inspired a lot of young conservatives at the time; that he won every state between Louisiana and South Carolina also showed them a way forward.
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Apr 18, 2015 21:48
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Considering the Nixon win 4 years later and various Republican wins after, I think Goldwater's defeat has more to do with the JFK assassination than anything else. Goldwater ran a poor campaign, LBJ ran a good and dirty campaign and it paid off.
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Apr 18, 2015 21:58
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Jerry Manderbilt posted:Didn't Goldwater's defeat invigorate factions of the GOP and birth the crazy wing we know today? Goldwater is too moderate for the modern GOP. He'd have presided over a bipartisan administration.
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Apr 18, 2015 21:58
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George III is too moderate for the current GOP.
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Apr 18, 2015 22:14
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UIApplication posted:
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Apr 18, 2015 22:17
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Qu Appelle posted:Walker would be drinking these all night long: this only intensifies my already white hot hatred of bloody marys
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Apr 18, 2015 22:19
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SNAKES N CAKES posted:Lindsey Graham is a national treasure and would make a great VP for Rubio.
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Apr 18, 2015 22:23
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:He does have the occasional great line but remember he's still pro torture, pro war, etc. Even monsters can tell funny jokes.
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Apr 18, 2015 22:25
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:He does have the occasional great line but remember he's still pro torture, pro war, etc. The idea is that he would be the mainstream counter weight to help Rubio win the general.
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Apr 18, 2015 22:32
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mooyashi posted:this only intensifies my already white hot hatred of bloody marys They are good though? Especially spicy hot
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Apr 18, 2015 22:53
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I won't get into it but they're garbage bougie drinks for garbage bougie people
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Apr 18, 2015 22:54
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blunt for century posted:I think it means he looks greasy, scummy, untrustworthy, and entirely focused on personal profit.
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Apr 18, 2015 22:57
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My Imaginary GF posted:Goldwater is too moderate for the modern GOP. He'd have presided over a bipartisan administration. Possibly in his first term. I don't think anyone could keep the Brotherhood of Steel and the Rad-zombie coalition together for that long.
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Apr 18, 2015 23:12
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axeil posted:Even monsters can tell funny jokes. You should hear Hitler's standup I mean it's in German but still
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Apr 18, 2015 23:42
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Chokes McGee posted:You should hear Hitler's standup Eh, his delivery is a little off, but you can't fault the material. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=in7yLZJ7A6Y
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Apr 18, 2015 23:50
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PupsOfWar posted:Choose, Rand Paul I think you screwed up the links because none of those are Jefferson's Reserve
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Apr 18, 2015 23:53
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Jerry Manderbilt posted:Didn't Goldwater's defeat invigorate factions of the GOP and birth the crazy wing we know today? His is purely anecdotal, but coming from a right wing family, and having listened to talk radio as a kid, Goldwater is largely vilified by the modern GOP for what amounts to "being a loser." It would take a lot of research and time for me to write up a proper post on the subject, but a large chunk of GOP anti-intellectualism can be traced to a rejection of Barry Goldwater, the consensus being "he was smart, and tried to use reason, and lost, therefore reason is for losers."
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Apr 19, 2015 00:09
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Wow, Barney Frank looking like the most sensisble presidential candidate https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Fi9BshGTsw
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Apr 19, 2015 00:14
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blunt for century posted:I think it means he looks greasy, scummy, untrustworthy, and entirely focused on personal profit. Sounds like a decent description of Cruz to me. I could totally see him in a yellow plaid blazer selling cars that "totally have never been on fire" Bingo.
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Apr 19, 2015 00:21
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ThirdPartyView posted:But Nixon won four years later, and Reagan almost won 12 years later (and did win 16 years later)?! And Nixon wasn't from the crazy wing.
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Apr 19, 2015 00:29
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Apr 19, 2015 00:31
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SedanChair posted:And Nixon wasn't from the crazy wing. Yeah, Nixon's opportunistic racism and 'Nam-related crimes make people forget he had made his entire career as a moderate-to-very-liberal Republican who was politically closer to LBJ than he was to Goldwater or Bob Taft. If anything Nixon embodies the prototypical Sinister Manipulative Liberal Politician caricature conservatives favor. Or at least merges with LBJ to do so.
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Apr 19, 2015 00:34
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Aww, Lindsey is giving those nice ladies fashion tips.
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Apr 19, 2015 00:35
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Is that Walker meeting with John Sununu?
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Apr 19, 2015 01:56
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Chadderbox posted:Is that Walker meeting with John Sununu? Also at the table: Fred Barnes and the NH GOP chair. Also, Graham's bar order was a glass of Riesling.
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Apr 19, 2015 02:20
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PupsOfWar posted:Yeah, Nixon's opportunistic racism and 'Nam-related crimes make people forget he had made his entire career as a moderate-to-very-liberal Republican who was politically closer to LBJ than he was to Goldwater or Bob Taft. I mean he was rabidly anti-communist, racist and really deeply, personally bigoted against everyone other than his base, but that was just what people expected in a president. The GOP needs to get back to its core competencies of destroying the middle class and perpetuating systemic (rather than dogwhistle) racism.
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Apr 19, 2015 02:40
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I would love to get Lindsey into a room away from the cameras and break him down Good Will Hunting style. Get him to stop hating himself and unleash the liberal he always wanted to be before his insane defense mechanisms kicked in. He is this cycles Newt: he has lovable qualities that extremely briefly make you forget about the rest of his horribly mean-spirited positions. Honestly, it's 2015 Lindsey, you don't have to do this anymore, you deserve some real love!
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I listened to that Adam Carolla/Ted Cruz interview. He championed the flat tax as being a "populist" policy because it would force the rich to pay their fair share, but when pressed on specifics about how a flat tax would work he admitted they hadn't come up with a specific plan or number. Cruz is very good in debates and he's at his best when going after people, but man is he a lightweight when it comes to policy.
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