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Hellsau posted:Yes, the BP is bad. It still magically cannot lose for some reason The magic behind the BP is that the playerbase is awful at the game they play. I can't wait for physics either but really whats the chance of it making it out this year?
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BadLlama posted:The magic behind the BP is that the playerbase is awful at the game they play. No no no, the BP armor confounds pubbies and it has an actually good turret. The thing with the BP is I have a vastly disproportionate winrate when compared to my average damage. 1500 average damage in a tier seven heavy isnt great, and probably shouldn't be good enough to earn 70something% winrate in it. It just refused to lose games where I contributed nothing.
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Hellsau posted:No no no, the BP armor confounds pubbies and it has an actually good turret. The thing with the BP is I have a vastly disproportionate winrate when compared to my average damage. 1500 average damage in a tier seven heavy isnt great, and probably shouldn't be good enough to earn 70something% winrate in it. It just refused to lose games where I contributed nothing. You're probably eating all the shells meant for softer tanks that end up doing your damage for you.
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My last game in the BP was amazing. A platoon of pre-nerf M4s slinging pure HEAT at me never penned once and I ended the game on 12 HP. I was at 14 before a Crusader rammed me and threw away all his health. One single HE shell from any one of them would have killed me. The BP is amazing at handling morons; you have a fast enough reload to shoot three or four enemy heavies who are poking you one at a time on a corner and refuse to push you. This is a common occurrence.
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So, the SU-122-54 is made out of bullshit and magic. I got to the side of one that was facehugging with an E5 (to be fair, the SU didn't want to be in that position, and had it's back to the wall). I was in the Lorr 40t, and autoaimed (so, you know. center massish). I was at point-blank range, and not moving terribly much. My first two shots in a row managed to bounce. Not only that, both of those shots bounced in such a way to hit the E5. Didn't do any damage to my ally, but what the gently caress. 
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Apologies for the non PC-master-race post however, a bunch of new Russian mediums are being added to the console version of the game and I was curious if anyone had opinions on which are the most worthwhile to work toward (especially for a fast-flanking player who mostly runs T71, AMX 13 90, etc)? http://worldoftanksxbox360edition.com/en/news/announcements/siberian-wolf-pack-new-soviet-mediums/
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coyo7e posted:Apologies for the non PC-master-race post however, a bunch of new Russian mediums are being added to the console version of the game and I was curious if anyone had opinions on which are the most worthwhile to work toward (especially for a fast-flanking player who mostly runs T71, AMX 13 90, etc)? We just spent the last few pages talking about the line. They get bigger guns than their tier, but with bad gun depression, soft stats, and vulnerable armor layouts. You can use a few of them to sidescrape pretty well. The tier 10 is about equivalent to a T-62A/140, with slightly more armour, and worse soft stats.
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The BP is a fine tank that shares a problem with most of it's line: It's a DPM machine in a game where alpha is more important. It's also rather hilariously good at shooting on the move like the rest of the British Heavies and unlike the Church and Church 7 it can actually go places before the battle's over. I hate Super Pershing's with a passion because I don't go above T7 so it's troll armor works on all of my high end tanks. Until it's teamworked to death though.
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Thanks for the fast replies and I do apologize for missing the recent posts however, I tend to get glossy-eyed and glaze over a lot of posts in this thread as they seem to be a lot about internal clan politics and K/D ratios etc, so I can't stand trying to read through every post in every page of this thread, since 60%+ is often unhelpful from an informational standpoint, to a new/intermediate player. I will re-look over the last 3-5 pages more carefully. (I am 12k from my T54E1 though  first tier 9!!! largely in part to tactics and build advice I gleaned from you guys, so thanks!) My roommate plays on the PC (after watching me play the XBox version for a few weeks, so I end up giving him build and strat adive a lot ironically). I like seeing the differences between the versions and if I wasn't a poor I'd get a new computer to play the real version. 
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EponymousMrYar posted:I hate Super Pershing's with a passion because I don't go above T7 so it's troll armor works on all of my high end tanks. Until it's teamworked to death though. That's the problem. You know how you kill a Super Pershing? You walk away from it and kill its teammates first. Or just shoot it in the upper plate and pen because spaced armor is magic.
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Desuwa posted:I didn't realize you needed to apply separately for the AW alpha. I'd already done whatever needed to be done to get the free commander, but there was a separate application for the alpha. Welp. Aw, what, I missed out on a free thing? Boo-urns.
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Hellsau posted:That's the problem. You know how you kill a Super Pershing? You walk away from it and kill its teammates first. Or just shoot it in the upper plate and pen because spaced armor is magic. re: Maus, BP, Lowe.
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Desuwa posted:
 I really liked the Chi-Ri when I still played. It gets disproportionately bad stats because it dies quickly in tier 9, but it really stomps tier 7 games, and it can put out a lot of damage at high tiers if you get a good position. And stomping tier 7s in a Chi-Ri is really fun, much more so than most of the usual pubbie stomp suspects. There's just nothing else that's anything like a Chi-Ri. Also the T25/2 is amazing.
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Meh. I have an AW invite and never bothered downloading that game. Soon as I heard there was arty I just said gently caress it.
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Saint Celestine posted:Meh. I have an AW invite and never bothered downloading that game. Soon as I heard there was arty I just said gently caress it. Maybe there won't be XVM so you won't get prioritized all the time.
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Hellsau posted:Yes, the BP is bad. It still magically cannot lose for some reason, and also is still massive jump from the previous tier. The Church 7 is probably the worst heavy, even worse than the B1/DW2/VK3001h simply because those tanks get eaten by gold ammo, and the Church 7 gets eaten by tier four guns to the track knees. What is so great about the BP is that it can simply tie up groups of people who are scared to get hit for the piddly 150 damage. I had a terrible, terrible game on Redshire where I was the only tank to go east into that little valley, and I held up something like 6 tanks until the people realized I only have a single gun and rushed me. By this time, my team had swept the other side of the map and were sitting on the center hill shooting the idiots who killed me. My contribution? 500 damage total. I still didn't like actually driving the tank, and I think the Caern is actually less fun to use, the ROF on its gun is simply too low.
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Saint Celestine posted:Meh. I have an AW invite and never bothered downloading that game. Soon as I heard there was arty I just said gently caress it. Good call, trust me. Agrajag fucked around with this message at 06:02 on Apr 18, 2015 |
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Agrajag posted:Good call, trust me. Holy poo poo, there's no way it's worse than War Thunder and that took a long time for everyone to turn against it. On a scale from one to World of Warplanes, how bad is the AW test right now?
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Hellsau posted:Holy poo poo, there's no way it's worse than War Thunder and that took a long time for everyone to turn against it. On a scale from one to World of Warplanes, how bad is the AW test right now? It's only Alpha so they are still at the stage to make huge changes. I'm not too worried about it, but the implementation for this iteration is not so great. Better that the test forums blow up now rather than when they go gold.
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I forgot how much fun the STB is. The aim time and dispersion still drive me crazy but that tank is great.
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Mesadoram posted:I really liked the KV-13. Strange how rare they are... I want to like the KV-13, I even re-bought it a while back, but it just feels "meh". I think it comes down to the gun. Good at tier 6, less so at tier 7. BadLlama posted:Don't aim, just fire. If anything, the reload time felt glacial to me. The T20 at least can mount a VStab and eGLD if you really wanted. Azhais posted:In case people weren't aware, Alienware is giving away codes again. I still think one of the "regular" invite codes is better; they'll give you a bit more gold with a slightly better tank, either the T2 LT or Locust. maev posted:People need to stop hating on the A-44. Its got a huge doom cannon that hits way above its tier on a fast platform. Stop crying pubbie tears about missing your shots at 500m when you should be moving around quickly and lighting up fools at point-blank with your alpha. No, the KV-2 (for example) has a huge doom cannon; the A-44 gets a gun that makes its first appearance a tier earlier, on the T-150. Hell, it used to be on the tier 5 KV. It looks like it might be a good gun/platform, but as Desuwa wrote the soft stats kill it. There's nothing "good" about the A-44, it's just that some people hate it less than others. Hellsau posted:Glad this is on YouTube. I get stuck on terrain like I always do on desert maps, you almost carry but run out of ammo, and the dumbshit T34 loses the game for us simply because he didn't want to spend credits on a full ammo load out. RIP Primelaw. Him struggling to find shots in that video is the T-34-1 in a nutshell. Not sure where the massive, tank-sized nutshell came from though.  coyo7e posted:My roommate plays on the PC (after watching me play the XBox version for a few weeks, so I end up giving him build and strat adive a lot ironically). I like seeing the differences between the versions and if I wasn't a poor I'd get a new computer to play the real version. Couldn't your roommate let you play on his PC when he's not using it? Accounts are free, there's nothing stopping you from creating one and playing a little here and there when you have time. If you want to do this, let me know before you create an account, I'd like to recruit you! PM me! 
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coyo7e posted:Thanks for the fast replies and I do apologize for missing the recent posts however, I tend to get glossy-eyed and glaze over a lot of posts in this thread as they seem to be a lot about internal clan politics and K/D ratios etc, so I can't stand trying to read through every post in every page of this thread, since 60%+ is often unhelpful from an informational standpoint, to a new/intermediate player. I will re-look over the last 3-5 pages more carefully. You don't really need a new pc to run this game though. You can probably get an older one for really cheap, and play this easily. drat thing probably runs well on pre-dualcore cpu's without a hitch. (Obviously not at max graphics, but whatever). The minimum requirements page states 2.2gHz cpu with SSE2 (think P4 CPU from 2001 or newer).
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The A-44 is in some ways awful and other ways a blast. I like to use it as a heavy scout of sorts, with the 76 and gold ammo. I can shred things from behind, due to the ease with which I can sliiiiide around corners in the 50% frequency Ruinberg games. bangbangbang that being said, I hate the gun selection, and I am still literally worse than Hitler at tanks.
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Valle posted:You don't really need a new pc to run this game though. You can probably get an older one for really cheap, and play this easily. drat thing probably runs well on pre-dualcore cpu's without a hitch. (Obviously not at max graphics, but whatever). The minimum requirements page states 2.2gHz cpu with SSE2 (think P4 CPU from 2001 or newer). Minimum system requirements, especially for games, have always been there just for show, in my experience (20+ years of PC gaming). You're never going to have a good experience if you're at the minimum. The problem is that this game isn't new, cutting-edge, but it's so poorly optimized that you need powerful hardware to make it run smoothly. Look at the huge jump in specs on that page between minimum to recommended; the GPU alone jumps from a >10-year-old one to a ~2.5-year-old one! Missing Name posted:The A-44 is in some ways awful and other ways a blast. I like to use it as a heavy scout of sorts, with the 76 and gold ammo. I can shred things from behind, due to the ease with which I can sliiiiide around corners in the 50% frequency Ruinberg games. bangbangbang You pointed out one of the many problems with the A-44: the only effective gun is the 107 (which is not saying much,) and you have to dump free xp to mount it. If I had to use the 76 on that thing I would've committed sudoku a long time ago.
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K2 Black Panther When the South Korean military started work on a new tank in 1994, it is unlikely that they planned to earn the title of "most expensive". However, domestic engineers rejected the idea of using foreign components and decided that the planned MBT (Main Battle Tank) will be developed at home. This allowed South Korea to not only secure its armoured shield, but avoid problems with licensing on the world arms market. However, the project would have to be started from scratch. This turned the design process into a national undertaking. The South Korean Agency for Defense Development teamed up with Hyundai, a known car manufacturer, on this project. The tank was indexed K2黒豹 (Black Panther). Its mass production began in June of 2013, and K2s started reaching the army in 2014. The vehicle has yet to see combat. Today, it is recorded in the Guinness Book of World Records as the most expensive tank at $8.8 million. Overview The layout of the K2 is classical: driver's compartment in the front, fighting compartment in the center, engine and transmission in the rear. The Koreans designed a new engine for the Black Panther, a 1500 hp diesel, and an automatic gearbox. Both components are domestically produced. A fundamentally new suspension provides each road wheel with an independent control system. As a result, the tank can lean in any direction and make itself taller or shorter, stretching its clearance between 150 and 550 mm. The K2 weighs 55 tons, but retains good mobility. It can reach 70 kph on a highway or 52 off-road. The designers claim that the tank can be ready to cross a 4 meter deep water hazard in as little as half an hour. The tank has a crew of three. The driver controls the tank from the driver's compartment, while the gunner and commander are placed in the turret. Turret and Armament South Korean specialists rejected the German Krupp-designed NPz K-140 prototype gun. In order to keep the tank domestic, they designed a new gun based on the German 120/L55 design. The tank's ammunition rack holds 40 shells, some of which are kept in an automatic loading mechanism. It allows the Black Panther to fire every 4 seconds, but once it is emptied, the crew will have to load rounds manually. The ammunition for the K2 was also developed in South Korea. A subcaliber shell with a tungsten core is used to fight enemy tanks. A HEAT-fragmentation shell is used against lesser targets. The K2's trump card is a highly precise self-aiming multi-stage shell. While it is expensive, the tank can fire effectively from up to 8 kilometers away, even without a line of sight on the target. The K2's unique suspension is not only used to increase the tank's off-road performance, but to tilt the tank in order to increase the gun's depression or elevation. The tank also has a coaxial 7.62 mm machinegun and a 12.7 mm AA gun. Fire Control System and Sights The K2's fire control system is a collection of the most modern sensors and systems. Aside from night vision devices and a laser rangefinder, it includes a radar system. Antennae on the turret allow the tank to detect incoming shells or low-flying drones, and aim the gun at them. Ground targets can't hide from the tank: it can discover them from as far away as 10 kilometers. The delayed firing system does not allow the gun to fire if the barrel is vibrating or the gun deviated from its target. This further increases accuracy when shooting at moving targets. There are two sights on the Korean tank: the main one, for the gunner, and a panoramic sight for the commander that provides 360 degree vision. Both are equipped with a thermal camera and laser rangefinger. According to the Black Panther's designers, these sights will be further improved in the future. Protection The tank's composite armour is a closely guarded secret, as is common for any military vehicle. According to the tank's designers, its front armour can withstand a hit from its 120 mm gun without damage, albeit from an unspecified distance. The Black Panther is also equipped with an active protection system. If the tank's radar detects an incoming ATGM, it will alert the crew and deploy smoke. The cloud that forms impedes the aim of the missile. A similar action can be taken if an enemy points its laser rangefinder at the tank. Special sensors can even determine where the beam is coming from. Automatic Controls In order to maximally remove human factors from performance in battle, the designers included a special system to automate communications, reconnaissance, and controls of the tank. The Black Panther is equipped with a modern "friend or foe" system. A device on the gun mantlet can determine if a target is friendly or an enemy. In the first case, the gun will not fire, in the second case, permission is given automatically. Fire suppression and radiation detectors also work automatically. Overall, the Black Panther tank is one of the most technologically advanced tanks today.
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EE please don't repost Daisengui fanfiction here.
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Atomizer posted:Minimum system requirements, especially for games, have always been there just for show, in my experience (20+ years of PC gaming). You're never going to have a good experience if you're at the minimum. The problem is that this game isn't new, cutting-edge, but it's so poorly optimized that you need powerful hardware to make it run smoothly. Look at the huge jump in specs on that page between minimum to recommended; the GPU alone jumps from a >10-year-old one to a ~2.5-year-old one! Ah yes, but don't forget that the recommended stuff is based on the improved graphics engine. You can still select the standard one, which should be much more lenient.
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BadLlama posted:Arty events are fun and improve the game for everyone. Confirmed for truth.
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BadLlama posted:Arty events are fun and improve the game for everyone. It's the best when arty events are on and everyone sits still when each team has 4 arty. I've seen "arty is so loving dumb" out of slow tanks today just because they sit still between shots all the loving time.
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Haquer posted:It's the best when arty events are on and everyone sits still when each team has 4 arty. I've seen "arty is so loving dumb" out of slow tanks today just because they sit still between shots all the loving time. I dont particularly like arty very much as a mechanic but generally don't complain about it but having tons of games where each team has 4 arty is just awful.
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Hellsau posted:EE please don't repost Daisengui fanfiction here. Most of that is marketing fluff that you get if you are looking to buy any modern MBT like the T-90/Abrams/Challenger/Leopard. Only nationalistic muppets think that it's true. Oh...........
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Arty is really important because it prevents camping. *everyone hugs any arty cover that's available and refuses to move one inch during the entire game from fear of being annihilated by something that can one shot them from outside their drawing range*
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I have just watched two SU-100s go around the A-9 corner on Karelia in Assault mode. Unsupported. While telling me "t-50 spot lol". They were on the defending team. After four years this game still has the capacity to surprise me with just how awful the players are.
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I don't know what's been going on, but my stats have exploded in a pretty good way. http://wotlabs.net/na/player/Kalanco I've been feeling in pretty high spirits for about the past week (got some personal missions done and a few marks of excellence in a short time, as well as RL stuff), but having a high morale isn't enough to kick one's stats up like THAT, is it? I've been stuck somewhere around a ~52% win rate and about a 1700-1900 WN8 for a while now, so this is pretty out of the ordinary.
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Valle posted:Ah yes, but don't forget that the recommended stuff is based on the improved graphics engine. You can still select the standard one, which should be much more lenient. I thought the standard renderer was even less optimized? Dunno, I've been using Improved for as long as it's been around. Before the next patch hits I should probably share some replays that have been sitting around: 1 - Me & a battle buddy wreck pubbies: http://wotreplays.eu/site/1809682?secret=32096e0ac00a7665211f2e49e576c542 2 - This is perhaps the best [Something]AwfulPanther match that I hope for. Tier 10 match, but my miracle tracks eat a T49 HEAT and I get top XP: http://wotreplays.eu/site/1809687?secret=32096e0ac00a7665211f2e49e576c542 3 - Nothing too special about this battle, except some non-platooned bad pubbies create an impromptu Comet Conga Line at about 12:30: http://wotreplays.eu/site/1809694?secret=32096e0ac00a7665211f2e49e576c542 4 - This one's on my little brother's account. A tier 5 battle in the awful, awful DoucheWagen ending in a power carry by our hero. Starting at 10:00 and especially 9:00, watch me deal with the last 4 enemy tanks solo while our Churchill runs away from the fight all the way back to our base. I clown their last SU-85 (which is a pretty epic duel, I must say), and then as I go after the last two arty the Churchill drowns himself. The final enemy was possibly AFK or perhaps running away, so I capped it out to secure the win: http://wotreplays.eu/site/1809698?secret=32096e0ac00a7665211f2e49e576c542 5 - My brother again. Nothing special about the battle, except note the 3 guys from _TA_ who synced into the same battle on the same side. Notice what the one dude says, and how he doesn't respond after he's called out? http://wotreplays.eu/site/1809709?secret=32096e0ac00a7665211f2e49e576c542 I totally understand if you don't want to watch them all, but I highly suggest watching the DW2 & maybe the Indien battles (#4 & #1, respectively) if at all possible. You definitely won't regret watching the DW2 one.
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