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Phlegmish posted:If you look at political and cultural developments in Western Europe, there is a clear break between the happy-go-lucky 'politically correct' nineties where it was assumed that Western liberal democracy would go on to conquer the world and immigrants would inevitably absorb our superior values, and the right-wing populist backlash that occurred in many countries during the 2000's when people realized this wasn't the case. It wasn't caused by the attacks on the Twin Towers, but it was certainly part of the same trend, and that date is as good as any. You don't have to get all 'Americans Look at you yanks using your big clever words.
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Weldon Pemberton posted:I guess I'll spoil his fun, Jezebel is a very divisive website among feminists, with probably most of them disliking it. It has been known for many faux pas like (this is an old example but whatever) a discussion on sexual assault with its writers that resulted in them turning up drunk and making a bunch of jokes about the subject instead of saying anything insightful. Gawker does a lot of hypocritical things like criticizing the Fappening but posting Hulk Hogan's sex videos on their site and posting candid pictures of female celebrities without their consent. Not entirely sure what the domestic violence thing FAROOQ is talking about is though since I have long started tuning out when I see the names of these sites. Yeah, this is all well and good, but there was a Hulk Hogan sex tape? Holy poo poo, I never thought that would happen. e: That was not a comment on his libido, nor his porn-based security, it's just, ewww.
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Apr 18, 2015 22:14
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Jonathan Yeah! posted:Yeah, this is all well and good, but there was a Hulk Hogan sex tape? Holy poo poo, I never thought that would happen. Hold onto your shoes, here comes the meat!
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Apr 18, 2015 22:18
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Davfff posted:Look at you yanks using your big clever words. What the gently caress are you talking about, I'm not a 'yank'.
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Phlegmish posted:What the gently caress are you talking about, I'm not a 'yank'. To foreigners, a Yankee is an American. To Americans, a Yankee is a Northerner. To Easterners, a Yankee is a New Englander. To New Englanders, a Yankee is a Vermonter. And in Vermont, a Yankee is somebody who eats pie for breakfast
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Apr 18, 2015 22:27
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Calling you someone who eats pie for breakfast. You wanna make something of it?
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Apr 18, 2015 22:34
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canyoneer posted:Hold onto your shoes, here comes the meat! 
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Weldon Pemberton posted:I guess I'll spoil his fun, Jezebel is a very divisive website among feminists, with probably most of them disliking it. It has been known for many faux pas like (this is an old example but whatever) a discussion on sexual assault with its writers that resulted in them turning up drunk and making a bunch of jokes about the subject instead of saying anything insightful. Gawker does a lot of hypocritical things like criticizing the Fappening but posting Hulk Hogan's sex videos on their site and posting candid pictures of female celebrities without their consent. Not entirely sure what the domestic violence thing FAROOQ is talking about is though since I have long started tuning out when I see the names of these sites.
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Jonathan Yeah! posted:To foreigners, a Yankee is an American. If you have pie and you're not eating it for breakfast, I don't know what you're doing with your life.
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Apr 19, 2015 03:58
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To be fair, pie is pretty awesome for breakfast.
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Choco1980 posted:To be fair, pie is pretty awesome for breakfast. I had pie for breakfast today. Truly, the best of decisions. Edit: does this mean I should embrace Yankee Pride?
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Apr 19, 2015 04:21
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Does quiche count as a pie??
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Apr 19, 2015 04:42
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Rough Lobster posted:Does quiche count as a pie?? Quiche is breakfast pie. So yes.
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Apr 19, 2015 05:06
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Rough Lobster posted:Does quiche count as a pie?? Technically yes, although it is not a "true" pie because it lacks an upper crust/lattice.
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Apr 19, 2015 05:26
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Counterpoint: Key lime and french silk pies both lack the upper crust. Maybe you should quit being so plutocratic and admit the legitimacy of the working-class pie.
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Apr 19, 2015 05:49
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Quiches are pies in the same sense pizzas are.
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Apr 19, 2015 06:07
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Is cheesecake considered a pie?
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Hargrimm posted:Quiches are pies in the same sense pizzas are. If we're talking chicago deep dish style, then yes.
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Apr 19, 2015 07:47
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  Scotch pies are the best pies. It annoys me that Americans tend to use pies as more of a dessert. Whereas in Britain you get the manly pies. Down in England they shove all sorts of meats and veg in there.
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Apr 19, 2015 07:59
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Noooo not another pie debate  Why can't we cherish the rich diversity of pies, the range of delicious aromas and flavors? What good comes of defining what a pie can and can't be? Why can't w--  jfc
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Apr 19, 2015 09:17
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Because our world is kind sometimes, we live in a time that a man can have a pie for both dinner and for dessert. A golden age.
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reformed bad troll posted:Whereas in Britain you get the manly pies. Down in England they shove all sorts of meats and veg in there.
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Apr 19, 2015 10:27
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The pie to rule them all has neither a top crust or a bottom crust. The shepherds pie rules.
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Apr 19, 2015 10:30
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Dumb moves in pie marketing, putting fruit in them.
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Apr 19, 2015 10:57
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I ate meat pie for the first time like a month ago. It was an amazing experience. I've since eaten a total of three meat pies.
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If you look at political and cultural developments of pies, there is a clear break between the happy-go-lucky 'politically correct' nineties where it was assumed that Western pie flavours would go on to conquer the world and immigrants would inevitably absorb our superior pies, and the right-wing flavour backlash that occurred in many countries during the 2000's when people realized this wasn't the case. It wasn't caused by the Butter Chicken pie, but it was certainly part of the same trend, and that pie is as good as any. You don't have to get all 'pies' 
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ToxicSlurpee posted:I ate meat pie for the first time like a month ago. What sad world do you live in that meat pie is something special?
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Tarantula posted:What sad world do you live in that meat pie is something special? Pennsylvania. I guess meat pies just aren't that big here because I never saw one in person until pretty recently. We did get Polish food out of the deal so it's not all bad. Kielbasa and haluski are fantastic.
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Davfff posted:If you look at political and cultural developments of pies, there is a clear break between the happy-go-lucky 'politically correct' nineties where it was assumed that Western pie flavours would go on to conquer the world and immigrants would inevitably absorb our superior pies, and the right-wing flavour backlash that occurred in many countries during the 2000's when people realized this wasn't the case. It wasn't caused by the Butter Chicken pie, but it was certainly part of the same trend, and that pie is as good as any. 
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ToxicSlurpee posted:Pennsylvania. I guess meat pies just aren't that big here because I never saw one in person until pretty recently. We did get Polish food out of the deal so it's not all bad. Kielbasa and haluski are fantastic. You're forgetting shoofly pie, the ambrosia of the Pennsylvania Dutch. I'd trade meat pie for shoofly pie any day.
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canyoneer posted:Hold onto your shoes, here comes the meat! I laughed way too hard at this this.
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Davfff posted:If you look at political and cultural developments of pies, there is a clear break between the happy-go-lucky 'politically correct' nineties where it was assumed that Western pie flavours would go on to conquer the world and immigrants would inevitably absorb our superior pies, and the right-wing flavour backlash that occurred in many countries during the 2000's when people realized this wasn't the case. It wasn't caused by the Butter Chicken pie, but it was certainly part of the same trend, and that pie is as good as any. Oi matey yank, u wot m8  The Brits and their former penal colonies have their own culinary traditions, don't you go thinking they were influenced by America to come up with food this terrible. Phlegmish has a new favorite as of 18:23 on Apr 19, 2015 |
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Phlegmish posted:Oi matey yank, u wot m8 It looks like they tried to escape the pie while it was baking. 
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My mom was raised in the UK and liked to cook a lot of British food including meat pies when I was growing up. I hated the meat pies because they were unrelentingly bland. I think you have to grow up in an environment devoid of good food (i.e. the UK) in order to enjoy them. There's a reason why the British conquered the world, people, and it was because they set out in search of edible food.
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From my experience, food being bland is a Midwest America thing. Maybe because people in the dust bowl couldn't afford spices. Of course, it's also just a "bad cook" thing. My mother in law is neither Midwestern nor British, and yet she even manages to make bland curries.
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Midwest food is bland and carb-heavy and inoffensive and terrible. Every family gathering I've been to has served nothing but doughy casseroles, "salads" that are 50% mayo, and vegetables smothered in melted cheese product.
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hyperhazard posted:You're forgetting shoofly pie, the ambrosia of the Pennsylvania Dutch. I'd trade meat pie for shoofly pie any day. Where I live the food is more Polish than PA Dutch. That's more of an east state thing. I live in the west part of the state. Never saw a shoofly pie. If it's that good though it's recipe hunting time.
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BattleMaster posted:My mom was raised in the UK and liked to cook a lot of British food including meat pies when I was growing up. I hated the meat pies because they were unrelentingly bland. I think you have to grow up in an environment devoid of good food (i.e. the UK) in order to enjoy them. If they're done right they're pretty good, and I say this as an American.
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ToxicSlurpee posted:Where I live the food is more Polish than PA Dutch. That's more of an east state thing. I live in the west part of the state. Never saw a shoofly pie. If it's that good though it's recipe hunting time. I've never made it, but there was always one at my (Pennsylvania-originating) family thanksgiving. It's like a molasses pie or something. Sticky and sweet. I want one now.
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Yeah, it basically tastes like a coffee cake with molasses underneath, baked in a pie crust. It can be tooth-meltingly sweet, but I personally like the ones that are a little more dry and cakey.
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