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necrobobsledder posted:This is what I meant by using a SFX PSU limits your selection - you have to actually do a little bit of research and think through things a little bit when with just plain old ATX PSUs you have an incredible number of possibilities. I'm all for making powerful computers smaller, but if you're custom building stuff yourself having a limited selection of parts really hurts when something breaks.  I guess.I agree with this in that even if you're going to go smaller you should probably aim towards something that will at least fit a common-size PSU, in case you have to replace it down the line without spending a ton on semi-rare parts.
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Generic Monk posted:Yeah are there any SFX supplies that aren't no-name or silverstone? Obvious reasons for the former and Silverstone products seem to be waaay overpriced for what they are from what I've seen. If I build a new PC at some point I'd love to stick it in something like the [url=https://www.ncases.com/[NCase M1[/url] since I don't use any expansion card slots anymore (GPU excepted) apart from a soundcard that I've perfunctorily transferred over for years. Obviously an ATX power supply with a full size graphics card in there is dicey to say the least and I'd probably prefer getting ripped off by silverstone. Check fsp. They make some of the Silverstone SFX PSUs.
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cisco privilege posted:I have one of these - it's ridiculous how much power they've stuffed in such a tiny, hand-held box, but drat if they didn't throw some lovely caps in there. Suiscon or whatever on the secondary is not cool. The semi-fanless PSU is quiet and runs very cool for being so small though which is kinda impressive I guess. Ewwwwww. Well, good thing I can always order some Sanyos or Panasonics. As far as replacing components go, caps are easy. Soldering iron bros? 
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This is really the only SFX PSU that counts anyway: http://amazon.com/SilverStone-Technology-Modular-Lengthened-SX500-LG/dp/B00SD9IORQ Not horribly expensive, 500w will power any ITX system unless maybe you're somehow on both a 295x2 and overvolted CPU, and most importantly the much larger and quiter fan still fits in all Silverstone ITX cases.
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Col.Kiwi posted:What I'm saying is canadian hardware prices aren't actually significantly higher than US hardware prices. They're just bigger numbers but it's because our dollar is worth less in the global economy. How much tax do you pay? We pay 12%, plus an "electronics recycling fee" that generally comes out to another $10.
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Kazinsal posted:How much tax do you pay? We pay 12%, plus an "electronics recycling fee" that generally comes out to another $10. Electronics recycling fees, AFAIK, are purely only a California thing. Not a percentage, is a flat fee, and was higher in the past to help quickly fund the program before tapering off to a normal amount. Something like $3-$5? California sales tax is 7.5%, but might be higher from county-to-county.
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California only does the electronics recycling fee on things with screens, with the fee based on screen size.
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SwissArmyDruid posted:Electronics recycling fees, AFAIK, are purely only a California thing. Not a percentage, is a flat fee, and was higher in the past to help quickly fund the program before tapering off to a normal amount. Something like $3-$5? There is an electronics recycling fee in Quebec, at least. Not sure if it's federal or provincial.
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Jan posted:There is an electronics recycling fee in Quebec, at least. Not sure if it's federal or provincial.
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Hey guys, Mind given your thoughts on the Gainward GeForce GTX 970 Phantom-Edition 4GB card? Any good in terms of cooling or any other problems..?
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Kr7stof posted:Hey guys, We're mostly North America in here, so Gainward doesn't get mentioned much. Reviews pretty much say the only potential issue is the cooler looks fragile. A 970 really is a 970. vOv http://www.geeks3d.com/20141210/gainward-geforce-gtx-970-phantom-review/#conclusion From the looks of it, that cooler seems to be a *triple* slot solution, so you should probably take that into account. It also deviates from the norm in that it uses Mini-DP ports instead of the regular-sized ones. BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 15:22 on Apr 19, 2015 |
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BIG HEADLINE posted:We're mostly North America in here, so Gainward doesn't get mentioned much. Reviews pretty much say the only potential issue is the cooler looks fragile. A 970 really is a 970. vOv I noticed that too. I will not go SLI so that will not be a problem for me. It seems the Gainward card has no obvious problems. Thanks for the link!
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Can someone explain the differences with all the EVGA 970s? Also, which 970 brands have the best stock cooling system? I used to by EVGA in the past, but I'm open to anything at this point.
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Drunk Badger posted:Also, which 970 brands have the best stock cooling system? I used to by EVGA in the past, but I'm open to anything at this point. MSI 4G Gaming > ASUS STRIX >> Gigabyte >>> everything else
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Drunk Badger posted:Can someone explain the differences with all the EVGA 970s? There are four clock speed variants and four coolers. Clock speeds are as follows (base/boost): Base: 1050/1178 (reference) SC: 1165/1317 SSC: 1190/1342 FTW: 1216/1367 All variants run the same 7010MHz memory clock, even the top of the line FTW+ Then the four coolers are: Base: Reference design ACX: Same cooler found on previous generation EVGA cards. ACX 2.0: Variant of ACX with different fans to reduce power consumption, theoretically allowing better overclocking on stock power limits because fans count against the card's power budget. ACX 2.0+: ACX 2.0 fans on an entirely different heatpipe assembly. There's also a bit of a variation within both ACX 2.0 coolers where the FTW versions have an additional heatpipe that's either not there (plus version) or not functional on the lower models. Beyond that the SSC ACX2+ and both FTW models have dual BIOSes and six phase power delivery where lower models only have four phase. The short version is don't even bother with an EVGA card that's not one of the plus variants. The ACX2 cooler performs worse than reference and most other cards on the market have six phase power so while it's a slight difference they are objectively worse than the competition. If you, like me, have a silly brand loyalty the SSC+ is a fine card.
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Is there a less that $200 upgrade to the gtx 760 or am I good for the time being?
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Sell your 760 and apply the funds to a 970.
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Don Lapre posted:Sell your 760 and apply the funds to a 970. I am incredibly lazy and the most taxing thing I'm playing now is Witcher 2 so maybe I'll stick with what I have. Hopefully the 970 dips in price in the next year or so then I'll be all over it for Witcher 3. Thanks for the suggestion.
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loudog999 posted:I am incredibly lazy and the most taxing thing I'm playing now is Witcher 2 so maybe I'll stick with what I have. Hopefully the 970 dips in price in the next year or so then I'll be all over it for Witcher 3. Thanks for the suggestion. Considering you get Witcher 3 free with a 970 you might want to just upgrade now.
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loudog999 posted:I am incredibly lazy and the most taxing thing I'm playing now is Witcher 2 so maybe I'll stick with what I have. Hopefully the 970 dips in price in the next year or so then I'll be all over it for Witcher 3. Thanks for the suggestion. You do get a copy of the Witcher 3 if you buy a 970 at least.
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AVeryLargeRadish posted:Considering you get Witcher 3 free with a 970 you might want to just upgrade now. You talked me into it, just ordered from Amazon
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Subjunctive posted:MSI 4G Gaming > ASUS STRIX >> Gigabyte >>> everything else Looks like there are a few MSI versions of the 970 as well. Which one should I get?
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Drunk Badger posted:Looks like there are a few MSI versions of the 970 as well. Which one should I get? The Gaming 4G Gold Edition and Gaming 4G (NOT Limited Edition) are the two highest tiers. I think other than that, you start looking at the ASUS ones but I'm not sure how the regular MSI970s compare to other brands.
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You're not going to find the MSI ~Golden Dragon~ edition for anything less than ~$450 now, and the only thing it offered over the base model was a pure (and heavier) copper heatsink assembly, golden accents, a backplate, and the near-certainty that if you ever had to RMA it, you'd end up just getting a regular red-plastic 4G version back since they really *did* make it a Limited Edition. The most 'limited' MSI out there now that you can still buy for a comparable price to others is the "100ME" version, which is the 4G with a backplate and accents in a neon-green to represent nVidia's 'colors.' TL;DR: Just buy the red-plastic 4G version.
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GPU Megathread - you should buy a 970
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BIG HEADLINE posted:You're not going to find the MSI ~Golden Dragon~ edition for anything less than ~$450 now, and the only thing it offered over the base model was a pure (and heavier) copper heatsink assembly, golden accents, a backplate, and the near-certainty that if you ever had to RMA it, you'd end up just getting a regular red-plastic 4G version back since they really *did* make it a Limited Edition. cost be damned I would have bought it if I knew about it before. I love that companies make stuff that they know will sell like crazy on asian market. They should have included dota 2 hats somehow.
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Fauxtool posted:cost be damned I would have bought it if I knew about it before. I love that companies make stuff that they know will sell like crazy on asian market. They should have included dota 2 hats somehow. Dota 2 market has been hosed since February or whenever it is that they segregated the markets to keep the ruble from "having an adverse effect on the economy". Well, as it turns out, they hosed the economy anyways. I can't even make enough money selling Dota pixels to pay for my FFXIV sub anymore.
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BIG HEADLINE posted:You're not going to find the MSI ~Golden Dragon~ edition for anything less than ~$450 now, and the only thing it offered over the base model was a pure (and heavier) copper heatsink assembly, golden accents, a backplate, and the near-certainty that if you ever had to RMA it, you'd end up just getting a regular red-plastic 4G version back since they really *did* make it a Limited Edition. It's both a nice card and a nice looking card. I wish I could get a second card though. I would imagine that if you ever had to RMA it they would just take off the heat sink and back plate and stick it on a blank board. 
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Do individual components ever get replaced during RMA process? My friend was told that they replaced capacitors on his card, but I thought they would generally just replace the card.
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SinineSiil posted:Do individual components ever get replaced during RMA process? That would be a hell of a 5-9.
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I'm sure that is a very case by case basis. A capacitor is dirt cheap though, so if they can quickly (and cheaply) pinpoint a capacitor, like it just exploded or its a common thing, replacing that would be like 100 times cheaper than giving you a new board even with labor and all. Diagnosis being the sticking point
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THE DOG HOUSE posted:I'm sure that is a very case by case basis. A capacitor is dirt cheap though, so if they can quickly (and cheaply) pinpoint a capacitor, like it just exploded or its a common thing, replacing that would be like 100 times cheaper than giving you a new board even with labor and all. Diagnosis being the sticking point He sent it back and hopefully they'll replace it completely.
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Any time I have ever had to RMA I got a completely different part back. Which can suck if you are on water. XFX changed revision when I had to RMA my 6970 and the waterblock no longer fit. Reference drat card even.
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So I am guessing from everything on this page that the GeForce GTX 970 really is the only choice at the moment - this still hold true if I am upgrading to a 2560 x 1440 monitor? (I currently have 1920x1200 powered by a GTX 760Ti). Is this the one I want? MSI NVIDIA GTX 970 Gaming Twin Frozr HDMI DVI-I DP Graphics Card (4GB, PCI Express, DDR5, 256 Bit) BadAstronaut fucked around with this message at 15:30 on Apr 20, 2015 |
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BadAstronaut posted:So I am guessing from everything on this page that the GeForce GTX 970 really is the only choice at the moment - this still hold true if I am upgrading to a 2560 x 1440 monitor? (I currently have 1920x1200 powered by a GTX 760Ti). GTX 970 for 1080p, GTX 980 for everything else.
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