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Pattonesque posted:yeah I mean also that IIRC there's bits about there being unexplored mass effect relays here and there. Mikedawson fucked around with this message at 00:37 on Apr 20, 2015 |
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Alain Post posted:If they're called Remnants, why aren't there any remaining??? What is going ON? it was the HARVESTERS
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Apr 20, 2015 01:13
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Milky Moor posted:it was the HARVESTERS 
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Geostomp posted:The real reason is so that the series doesn't have to deal with the nonsense that was Mass Effect 3's ending choice.
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Apr 20, 2015 01:31
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You fight the Accumulators in the second one.
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Apr 20, 2015 01:43
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I hope Mass Effect 4's Milky Way characters don't all have green eyes, I thought that was dumb.
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Apr 20, 2015 01:56
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Actually making everyone part machine just effectively makes the game Space Deus Ex.
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Apr 20, 2015 04:12
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Lycus posted:They found an eighth mass effect field. We'll finally get a Stargate game  
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Dan Didio posted:You fight the Accumulators in the second one.
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Shaman Ooglaboogla posted:So since it's a different galaxy all the poo poo from Mass effect wont even really cross over? None of the aliens from the Milky Way and none of the Reaper stuff? What is the point of even making it the same IP? Well we know the Krogan established a colony there, so presumably all the aliens we know and love will be here. Also reapers are gone, at least I hope.
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If the leaked info is real and that's seriously the direction they're taking then I think it's a huge cop-out and quite possibly the least interesting way of handling anything after ME3. Well here we are in an entirely new galaxy with absolutely zero continuity except those wacky, zany alien races who have all inexplicably ended up at the same place. Bioware proudly presents Mass Effect: The New Class.
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Apr 20, 2015 09:17
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exquisite tea posted:we are in an entirely new galaxy with absolutely zero continuity except those wacky, zany alien races who have all inexplicably ended up at the same place. Makes sense in the context of a desperate galactic colony mission.
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Apr 20, 2015 09:25
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I don't care if it's a cop out or whatever, new galaxy sounds more fun than "canon endings".
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Apr 20, 2015 09:34
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Lycus posted:I don't care if it's a cop out or whatever, new galaxy sounds more fun than "canon endings". I would not mind too much if we eventually get a game set in the Milky Way again. The new premise will probably give the game a very different tone, which is cool and exciting, but I want to see more of the actual Mass Effect world we know. They should just pick an ending and continue from there. Strict forked inter game continuity, in the end, hurt the games more than it did good, I think. Rinkles fucked around with this message at 09:48 on Apr 20, 2015 |
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Apr 20, 2015 09:45
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I just want to go to this new galaxy and teach the locals religion. And by that, I mean I'm going to biotic charge into pirates and soldiers.
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hello this is a new star wars game no you see it's set in a new galaxy but instead of jedi there's jadii
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exquisite tea posted:If the leaked info is real and that's seriously the direction they're taking then I think it's a huge cop-out and quite possibly the least interesting way of handling anything after ME3. Well here we are in an entirely new galaxy with absolutely zero continuity except those wacky, zany alien races who have all inexplicably ended up at the same place. Bioware proudly presents Mass Effect: The New Class. Short of an entirely new continuity, there is no real way to deal with the mutually contradictory endings of ME3. The writers didn't plan on continuing after them (or plan those endings at all) so it's the easiest way to ignore all of it and get back to the exploration people usually like in this genre. It may be a cop out, but I'll take any excuse to pretend ME3 as it was never happened. Speaking of which, is it time for a new thread?
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One possibility is that this starts during Mass Effect 3's Reaper War. As galactic civilization is about to be destroyed by the Reapears, a way to reach a new galaxy is discovered, thus offering a chance for survival. The PC is part of a multi-race group in charge of exploring this new galaxy and establish new civilizations, and make sure all the current races survive. Maybe it's a one-way trip only, or many something goes bad and they can't make it back. But this way you can completely ignore the end of ME3.
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Technomancer posted:One possibility is that this starts during Mass Effect 3's Reaper War. As galactic civilization is about to be destroyed by the Reapears, a way to reach a new galaxy is discovered, thus offering a chance for survival. The PC is part of a multi-race group in charge of exploring this new galaxy and establish new civilizations, and make sure all the current races survive. Maybe it's a one-way trip only, or many something goes bad and they can't make it back. But this way you can completely ignore the end of ME3. sending an expedition to another galaxy as part of continuity of civilization plans in the event the Reaper War is lost makes a lot of sense
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Lycus posted:They found an eighth mass effect field. The design is clearly Remnant.
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exquisite tea posted:If the leaked info is real and that's seriously the direction they're taking then I think it's a huge cop-out and quite possibly the least interesting way of handling anything after ME3. Well here we are in an entirely new galaxy with absolutely zero continuity except those wacky, zany alien races who have all inexplicably ended up at the same place. Bioware proudly presents Mass Effect: The New Class. It is, but there's really no way to follow ME3 in a way that isn't a cop-out because ME3 was intended to be an ending. Unfortunately the franchise must march on.
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exquisite tea posted:If the leaked info is real and that's seriously the direction they're taking then I think it's a huge cop-out and quite possibly the least interesting way of handling anything after ME3. Well here we are in an entirely new galaxy with absolutely zero continuity except those wacky, zany alien races who have all inexplicably ended up at the same place. Bioware proudly presents Mass Effect: The New Class. It gives off a Star Control 3 vibe, given the circumstances of the scenario and summary of game play elements -- and that isn't a good thing. They might be able to pull it off, but I really don't have much confidence at this point.
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Alain Post posted:It is, but there's really no way to follow ME3 in a way that isn't a cop-out because ME3 was intended to be an ending. Unfortunately the franchise must march on. did they ever say that they intended the franchise to end with ME3?
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Pattonesque posted:did they ever say that they intended the franchise to end with ME3? I think they said Shepard's story was ending but the ME universe wasn't, if they said anything. Which is half truth and half marketing, always leave the door open for sequels because this is a for-profit industry. The problem is when you wrap up one character's story by massively changing up the universe status quo, you make it awfully hard to continue the franchise. So the new galaxy reset button it is. I don't really envy the ME4 team for that decision but I also don't see a way they can make a game set chronologically after ME3 that would be able to do anything else, unless they took the fairly bold option of throwing ME3 under the bus. After the shitstorm of internet drama ME3's ending created I don't blame anyone for trying to stay as far away from it as possible to avoid shitstorm 2: poo poo harder.
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Man, ME4 sounds like it could be amazing, but it sounds like they're making the exact same mistakes they made with DA:I. A shitload of 'content', an overarching goal that requires mobile game mission allocation, spreading 'influence', resource management. It's not a stretch to assume that each planet will be laid out similarly to the DA:I zones. It's such a loving boring concept. Taking the worst bits of MMOs, sim/base building games and mobile games and smooshing them up together in what's supposed to be a story and character driven world. It's a waste. I'm obviously making a lot of assumptions, but DA:I was such a loving shame, and EA seems to think it went over really well. Ah well.
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TBH, I'd rather see them just put the effort into porting the whole thing to the next gen consoles. Turn it into a 100 hour game. Smooth out the rough patches. Tie everything together. Add some content to make things a bit more sensible. They do it right and it would sell. Will never happen, of course.
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Pattonesque posted:did they ever say that they intended the franchise to end with ME3? Back when ME1 was released, they said they intended it to be a trilogy. Also pre-EC, the ME3 ending was like, pretty definitive. Unless you were going to set another sequel in a different time period, or do something weird like a ME game without the relays.
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All the things my brain is telling me make no sense, take a back seat - I just want to travel around a galaxy with my space buds.
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Spikeguy posted:All the things my brain is telling me make no sense, take a back seat - I just want to travel around a galaxy with my space buds. Get loud, spill some drinks.
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Spikeguy posted:All the things my brain is telling me make no sense, take a back seat - I just want to travel around a galaxy with my space buds. this is p. much the essence of a good Mass Effect game if they get that right people will ignore a lot of bad things
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Why wouldn't they just set it in the 99.999% of the Milky Way that didn't have relays, now ripe for colonization thanks to [Magic Space Technology]? Then all of the new aliens (and old ones showing up) could be explained by new travel to these previously "unexplored" regions. That seems much simpler than making a carbon copy of everything and sending some kind of unlikely and never-ending torrent of refugees from the original trilogy across the gulf of space between galaxies. Moving the setting that far out of time and space also seems to acknowledge that the endings were so bad they just had to nuke the franchise and start from the title.
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Pattonesque posted:this is p. much the essence of a good Mass Effect game Case in point: Mass Effect 2.
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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:Moving the setting that far out of time and space also seems to acknowledge that the endings were so bad they just had to nuke the franchise and start from the title. Which is correct.
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Lycus posted:Which is correct. There's nothing really to the events of ME3 itself that are so out of the ordinary. Like if you asked a normal person to predict what would happen at the end of the trilogy after playing Mass Effect 1, they would be like "Shepard will probably get rid of the Reapers and galactic civilization will be damaged" which is exactly what happens and incidentally a perfect starting point for ME4 regardless of what flavor of Reaper-doing-away you chose. The issue was the immensely hacky way it all came together, but the plot in terms of what actually happened were fairly predictable.
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They can do this interim game and if people are clamoring for more Shepard (and they probably will) then they can do a new game set after ME3. Bite the bullet, pick a canon ending and go. Destroy makes the most sense, you get that cutscene with high war score that has Shep breathing and then it's Shep's job to unfuck everything after the Reapers are gone. You could deal with Krogan expansion, Geth/Quarian problems, etc. Control would be way more interesting with God Emperor Shep but writing that in a way that actually works would be much harder.
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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:Why wouldn't they just set it in the 99.999% of the Milky Way that didn't have relays, now ripe for colonization thanks to [Magic Space Technology]? Then all of the new aliens (and old ones showing up) could be explained by new travel to these previously "unexplored" regions. That seems much simpler than making a carbon copy of everything and sending some kind of unlikely and never-ending torrent of refugees from the original trilogy across the gulf of space between galaxies. Because there's still the elephant in the room caused by ME3's endings either a) destroying all synthetic lifeforms, b) leaving a galaxy monitored by a Shepard AI and its armies of death squids, or c) making everyone weird cyborgs with said death squids just kind of hovering around because of brain damage. Nobody wants to try to reconcile that nonsense and it's next to impossible to completely skate over, so they'll move on so far away that they'll never have to think about it again.
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Waltzing Along posted:TBH, I'd rather see them just put the effort into porting the whole thing to the next gen consoles. Turn it into a 100 hour game. Smooth out the rough patches. Tie everything together. Add some content to make things a bit more sensible. if only the next gen consoles were worth buying
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The best way to reconcile it is just let it be that Shepard entered the crucible, there was a burst of light, everyone disagrees on the color, and the reapers are gone now. The "Will kill the geth and quarian" things was just a bluff from the star child to get Shepard to back off from the most genocidal option, and even in green and blue ending I'm sure they the reapers would eventually just go bugger off somewhere because they're horrifying giant squid people and walking zombies reminders of everyone's lost friends and family.
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