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Dr Subterfuge posted:"Why not Jimmy?" seems like it has a pretty straightforward answer. Having an ageless, beautiful, lifelong companion who cuddles with you and caresses you might just get in the way of having stable romantic relationships with other women. Why Anthony was better than nothing though: still baffling. I'm sure it seemed like a good idea at the time. Sometimes you start dating someone with severe character flaws thinking "sure they have problems, but those problems aren't so bad" or "they'll change, I can help them improve" and sometimes you're right and things do get better. Other times you're horribly wrong and your creepy husband goes nuts after you die and starts emotionally abusing your daughter and preforming surgery on her without her consent. Such is life.
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Now that you mention it, I wouldn't be surprised if Surma broke up with Jimmy Jims over Jones. Maybe a it's her or me situation, and Eglamore refused to commit which was enough for her, and then she starts dating Tony, and Eglamore is all 'the gently caress did I do?'
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Apr 20, 2015 21:21
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JT Jag posted:Now that you mention it, I wouldn't be surprised if Surma broke up with Jimmy Jims over Jones. Maybe a it's her or me situation, and Eglamore refused to commit which was enough for her, and then she starts dating Tony, and Eglamore is all 'the gently caress did I do?' If that was the case, I don't think the scene with Jones comforting Eglamore while he's all "why the hell did she pick him and not me" would have happened, because that implies that there was never a moment where Eglamore could have opted into that relationship.
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Apr 20, 2015 21:30
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Rand Brittain posted:If that was the case, I don't think the scene with Jones comforting Eglamore while he's all "why the hell did she pick him and not me" would have happened, because that implies that there was never a moment where Eglamore could have opted into that relationship.
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Apr 20, 2015 21:35
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JT Jag posted:He's a bonehead who doesn't realize that he's at fault too, is what that would mean. He probably is at fault but I doubt the decision point was that obvious, since he obviously doesn't know where he went wrong, if in fact it was something he could have affected at all.
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Apr 20, 2015 21:38
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Oh no! Eleventy billion. A big number! The biggest number!
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Something that bothers me about the mask is that it's smiling serenely. It's difficult to tell for certain, but Annie seems to be smiling slightly after trying to regain her composure. Makes me feel like Anthony is involved on an etheric level again 
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Apr 20, 2015 23:50
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It probably does not mean anything specific but I always found it interesting that the mask is of her as a fire elemental. With the line through the middle of her face and all.
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Apr 21, 2015 00:04
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"I have to..." Annie seems to have a plan for going along with loving everything her father mandates. I wonder where she thinks this is going.
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Apr 21, 2015 01:53
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Wulfolme posted:mandates. Every time I hear this word my brain starts trying to work out a joke about a day hanging out with the Emperor of China, and everything goes really well and he's really cool and we just have a great old time all day long, because obviously it's the Man Date of Heaven But I never get to the finished joke, I am a poor jokesman
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DrSnakeLaser posted:Something that bothers me about the mask is that it's smiling serenely. It's difficult to tell for certain, but Annie seems to be smiling slightly after trying to regain her composure. It's called putting on a smile, it has nothing to do with etheric mind control magic and everything to do with masking your emotions.
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Apr 21, 2015 07:07
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LuiCypher posted:Antimony is buying into them to get him to stay.
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Apr 21, 2015 12:48
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Anyone got the page after Surma dumps Eglamore and Jones is all up on him? That page never really sat well with me. Why would Jones be mimicking such an action? It was pretty clearly making him uncomfortable, so she wasn't doing it for him.
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Apr 21, 2015 15:19
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http://www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=1097 I will always be here for you jimmyjims. 
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Apr 21, 2015 15:22
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Super Waffle posted:Anyone got the page after Surma dumps Eglamore and Jones is all up on him? That page never really sat well with me. Why would Jones be mimicking such an action? It was pretty clearly making him uncomfortable, so she wasn't doing it for him. If I had to guess, I'd say she was just trying to cheer him up (by mimicking "Human Female Platonically Comforts Human Male Over Romantic Disappointment" as best she could), and it didn't really work out. Jones isn't infallible!
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Apr 21, 2015 15:29
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Super Waffle posted:Anyone got the page after Surma dumps Eglamore and Jones is all up on him? That page never really sat well with me. Why would Jones be mimicking such an action? It was pretty clearly making him uncomfortable, so she wasn't doing it for him. She was clearly trying to give him a comforting hug. She is really bad at that sort of thing though!
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Apr 21, 2015 16:00
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GlyphGryph posted:She was clearly trying to give him a comforting hug. She is really bad at that sort of thing though! At least she didn't try to smile at him.
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Apr 21, 2015 16:10
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Was I alone in reading 'romantic' intent on Jones' part into that action? Like Eglamore was gettin' it from Surma and Jones? Thinking about it now I'd be happy if that was the wrong interpretation; I always thought that was a strange thing for Jones to be trying to explore with Jimmy Jims. The touchy stuff in the other comics kind of supported it, though.
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Apr 21, 2015 16:17
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I'm kinda surprised there's not more people thinking there's direct etheric fuckery going on in the last page. That's what immediately jumped to mind given the bones/claws in the Treatise page and Tony's previous shenanigans. Like, yes, the mask is Antimony's coping mechanism but it is also directly linked to the induced coma caused by her dad's messing about.
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Apr 21, 2015 16:38
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Thesaurasaurus posted:If I had to guess, I'd say she was just trying to cheer him up (by mimicking "Human Female Platonically Comforts Human Male Over Romantic Disappointment" as best she could), and it didn't really work out. Jones isn't infallible! I Will Always Be There For You James. Initiating Comforting_Hug.exe
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Apr 21, 2015 16:39
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Wulfolme posted:Was I alone in reading 'romantic' intent on Jones' part into that action? Like Eglamore was gettin' it from Surma and Jones? Thinking about it now I'd be happy if that was the wrong interpretation; I always thought that was a strange thing for Jones to be trying to explore with Jimmy Jims. The touchy stuff in the other comics kind of supported it, though. It's possible, tho that would be rather creepy considering she's been taking care of him since he was a child. himajinga posted:I'm kinda surprised there's not more people thinking there's direct etheric fuckery going on in the last page. That's what immediately jumped to mind given the bones/claws in the Treatise page and Tony's previous shenanigans. Like, yes, the mask is Antimony's coping mechanism but it is also directly linked to the induced coma caused by her dad's messing about. It's obviously supposed to invoke the bone spear imagery, but I highly doubt he's actually doing magic brainwashing poo poo. That just seems too comically villainous.
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Apr 21, 2015 16:42
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Apr 21, 2015 17:22
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Wulfolme posted:Was I alone in reading 'romantic' intent on Jones' part into that action? Like Eglamore was gettin' it from Surma and Jones? Thinking about it now I'd be happy if that was the wrong interpretation; I always thought that was a strange thing for Jones to be trying to explore with Jimmy Jims. The touchy stuff in the other comics kind of supported it, though. The body language and posing seems really romantic. Isn't she supposed to have a super-dense body? Good thing Jimmy-Jims has super-strength, if there is something romantic going on there she might break his pelvis...
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Apr 21, 2015 17:23
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Kesper North posted:Isn't she supposed to have a super-dense body?
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Apr 21, 2015 17:26
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himajinga posted:I'm kinda surprised there's not more people thinking there's direct etheric fuckery going on in the last page. That's what immediately jumped to mind given the bones/claws in the Treatise page and Tony's previous shenanigans. Like, yes, the mask is Antimony's coping mechanism but it is also directly linked to the induced coma caused by her dad's messing about. I think that's a possible interpretation but I'm not really that keen on Anthony's hold over Antimony being a literal magic spell.
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Apr 21, 2015 17:33
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you know what The Stone is probably my favourite chapter in this comic still Although it's totally possible now to see what someone you like dating Anthony would hardcore make you question yourself
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Fangz posted:I think that's a possible interpretation but I'm not really that keen on Anthony's hold over Antimony being a literal magic spell. Which is funny, because I feel like it being totally 100% psychological doesn't keep with the mystical/eerie themes of the series. I'm sure it's some weird combination of the two, like her trauma/tendency to regress/repress her feelings and stuff re: her dad makes her more susceptible to etheric psychic tampering or something. himajinga fucked around with this message at 17:46 on Apr 21, 2015 |
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Apr 21, 2015 17:44
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himajinga posted:Which is funny, because I feel like it being totally 100% psychological doesn't keep with the mystical/eerie themes of the series, I'm sure it's some weird combination of the two. I dunno. I like the idea that, in a world with deities, crazy murder ghosts, fanatical robots that want to be turned into flesh and so on, one of the most horrifying things in this comic is just a non-magical abusive dad. I don't think this has anything to do with ether, just plain human cruelty/negligence.
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Apr 21, 2015 17:51
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Acne Rain posted:I Will Always Be There For You James. Initiating Comforting_Hug.exe 
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Apr 21, 2015 17:52
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This thread is on a nice track with the recent bloom of edits. This, for one, is amazing.
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Apr 21, 2015 19:11
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Antimony being a literally brainwashed, mind-controlled puppet is the sort of thing I'd expect to see immediately before Professor Disaster jumps in with Antimony's class, guns blazing to lock up supervillain Anthony Carver and save their classmate. It would be loving dumb and in complete disjunction with the serious character of the chapter and the gravity of the situation for Annie.
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Apr 21, 2015 19:13
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Acne Rain posted:I Will Always Be There For You James. Initiating Comforting_Hug.exe 
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Apr 21, 2015 23:44
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No Kat, we will not deal with it 
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Apr 22, 2015 08:06
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Well this is just kinda depressing, "Trap our friend in his own body, welp time to forget about that, better just give in to all the dictates of Bad Dad."
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Some types of abuse you can overcome and "win", so to speak. When the abuser wields tangible, real-world power beyond that over the victim, things become a bit more tricky. We have no idea what Anthony's "rank" at the school is, he might have the ability to overrule the elder Donlans and make life a nightmare for Kat, too, if she tries to help. And within the comic, the kids don't know either. Sometimes you just have to survive even if it means "giving up" for the time being.
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We didn't see where she put him, maybe she'll try to sneak him away. Please Kat for the love of christ sneak him away.
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I've been thinking... The Torn Sea certainly is perfectly set to serve as a one-last-hurrah sendoff for that set of classmates as frequent characters in the comic.
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