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LITERALLY A BIRD
Sep 27, 2008

I knew you were trouble
when you flew in

Beach season is right around the corner! Time to eat healthy and get in shape!



or not

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Mocking Bird
Aug 17, 2011

LITERALLY A BIRD posted:

Beach season is right around the corner! Time to eat healthy and get in shape!



or not

I love everything about this. So many loopholes :allears:

54 40 or fuck
Jan 4, 2012

No Yanda's allowed
That's perfect. As if almond milk is at all offensive tasting. The addition of Mountain Dew as a chaser is beautiful.

Gridlocked
Aug 2, 2014

MR. STUPID MORON
WITH AN UGLY FACE
AND A BIG BUTT
AND HIS BUTT SMELLS
AND HE LIKES TO KISS
HIS OWN BUTT
by Roger Hargreaves

Toriori posted:

That's perfect. As if almond milk is at all offensive tasting. The addition of Mountain Dew as a chaser is beautiful.

I will admit that I have always found the taste of milk, just plain cows milk, to be awful. I must disguise it with Milo wherever possible.

blunt for century
Jul 4, 2008

I've got a bone to pick.

I particularly like organic whole milk, not a fan of other cow milk. I had to quit drinking it because it was making me super farty. I found that cashew milk is the best substitute for real milk.

kinmik
Jul 17, 2011

Dog, what are you doing? Get away from there.
You don't even have thumbs.

Hirayuki posted:

"Pan" just means "bread" (from the Portuguese) and is the catch-all word for any bread product you can get from a bakery, the majority of which is what we'd probably call "buns" or "rolls," sweet or otherwise. It's not always sweet and certainly not always deep fried. Curry pan is, though; that's kind of a curry piroshki breaded in panko and fried. (Delicious, when fresh.)



"Shokupan" ("eating bread") is the stuff that comes in loaves and is usually a sweeter variation on a white Pullman loaf, often sliced super thick. Upon eating a slice of Japanese toast, my son commented that the Japanese must have really huge mouths.



It also is loving fantastic toasted with butter or corn mayo, though I realize this last variation probably belongs in this thread:



Toasted, it's crispy on the outside and pull-apart soft on the inside.

Even an unabashed fan of shokupan (and garlic) like me draws the line at some of the things they do to it, though.



This is a five-inch-tall hunk of white bread diced into chunks and done up with garlic butter. Then there's the sweet variation, of which this (the top Japanese GIS for "karaoke dessert") is an extremely tame example:



See much worse here.
Honey toast is loving awesome, but not meant to be eaten by a single person. It's usually toasted though (as the name implies), and you can't really see it from those pics. Shokupan makes killer french toast too.

Nolan Arenado
May 8, 2009

Almond milk is delicious and I would drink it all the time if I wasn't such a cheap bastard. (I don't know if it's more expensive than regular milk, maybe not, I just usually drink water due to the cheap bastard thing)

ErIog
Jul 11, 2001

:nsacloud:

El Estrago Bonito posted:

Yeah but seriously bread in Japan is loving awful. They have this whole type of bread called pan that's everywhere and really sweet, usually deep fried. I'd almost say it's more along the lines of a pastry than a bread but people there treat it like bread.

That's because Japanese people basically consider most bread to be a pastry, and eat it as such. If you want to make a sandwich then buy sandwich rolls or sandwich bread. They're available at all grocery stores and most convenience stores.

There's a lot of awful food in Japan, but the bread is fine. I wish I could easily get a marble rye or pumpernickel, but I have never had trouble finding decent white bread. Hell, I can go get a loving baguette from any supermarket even in my small podunk town.

kinmik posted:

Honey toast is loving awesome, but not meant to be eaten by a single person. It's usually toasted though (as the name implies), and you can't really see it from those pics. Shokupan makes killer french toast too.

Yeah, shokupan is designed to be eaten as toast for breakfast. Going by how it tastes untoasted, I'm not sure it's really meant to be eaten without toasting. It makes killer garlic bread, texas toast, grilled cheese, or really anything that requires toasted bread. When I feel like eating like an idiot I usually make a Texas Toast Cheeseburger with shokupan. It's loving awesome.

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Hirayuki
Mar 28, 2010


I'll never forget the French guy I met staying at a Kyoto temple who swore up and down that Japan made better croissants than France. Now, I think the Japanese do bread very well, but this struck me as a pretty ballsy claim.

ErIog
Jul 11, 2001

:nsacloud:

Hirayuki posted:

I'll never forget the French guy I met staying at a Kyoto temple who swore up and down that Japan made better croissants than France. Now, I think the Japanese do bread very well, but this struck me as a pretty ballsy claim.

I would believe it. There's an attention to quality and detail in Japanese consumer-facing products that borders on obsessive. A lot of places will just refuse to sell stuff that doesn't come out absolutely perfect or they will deeply discount even for small defects. I was once at a shop where there were these very nice boxes made of laminated paper, and a customer literally found a single small imperfection on the underside of the lid of the box and was able to get 20% off. I buy vegetables in Japan without bothering to check them like I would in America because I know that the lowest quality tomato I purchase from a Japanese supermarket is going to be better than the average tomato in an American supermarket.

What this means for Japanese bakeries is that they're probably throwing away any product that's not absolutely 100% perfect. What you're left with are perfect croissants, but far fewer of them than would ever be produced in France and probably at a higher cost. The downside to this kind of attention to quality is that it's hard to sell stuff for any kind of decent money if it's ever been used at all. The expectation is that used products are basically identical to new.

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SC Bracer
Aug 7, 2012

DEMAGLIO!

QuickbreathFinisher
Sep 28, 2008

by reading this post you have agreed to form a gay socialist micronation.
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Is that a dolma sandwich?

E: gently caress, they're jalapeño poppers, aren't they?

Light Gun Man
Oct 17, 2009

toEjaM iS oN
vaCatioN




Lipstick Apathy

Hirayuki posted:

I'll never forget the French guy I met staying at a Kyoto temple who swore up and down that Japan made better croissants than France. Now, I think the Japanese do bread very well, but this struck me as a pretty ballsy claim.

There is an anime all about making THE BEST BREAD EVER. With international bread competitions and everything. DBZ for bread pretty much, but with cooking instead of fighting.

PubicMice
Feb 14, 2012

looking for information on posts

ErIog posted:

I would believe it. There's an attention to quality and detail in Japanese consumer-facing products that borders on obsessive. A lot of places will just refuse to sell stuff that doesn't come out absolutely perfect or they will deeply discount even for small defects. I was once at a shop where there were these very nice boxes made of laminated paper, and a customer literally found a single small imperfection on the underside of the lid of the box and was able to get 20% off. I buy vegetables in Japan without bothering to check them like I would in America because I know that the lowest quality tomato I purchase from a Japanese supermarket is going to be better than the average tomato in an American supermarket.

What this means for Japanese bakeries is that they're probably throwing away any product that's not absolutely 100% perfect. What you're left with are perfect croissants, but far fewer of them than would ever be produced in France and probably at a higher cost. The downside to this kind of attention to quality is that it's hard to sell stuff for any kind of decent money if it's ever been used at all. The expectation is that used products are basically identical to new.

I remember a few years back a goon posting a story about how he worked in a Japanese bakery, and one day he mixed up the eggs for the cakes with the eggs for the custard. He got fired on the spot.

The Saddest Rhino
Apr 29, 2009

Put it all together.
Solve the world.
One conversation at a time.



ErIog posted:

There's a lot of awful food in Japan

I was gonna refute you on this but someone just showed me

http://en.rocketnews24.com/2014/07/09/anime-gals-serve-yellow-shaved-ice-with-creepy-connotations-then-things-somehow-get-worse/

and yeah I can't really argue your point.

McSpergin
Sep 10, 2013

Big Mad Drongo posted:

Holy hell I homebrew and bake and yet never thought of doing this, what have I been doing with my life.

loving about and wasting time clearly, hth

Lol but for reals, give it a go with some Brett and culture up a sourdough starter with some rye. I even dumped a little lacto in there for a bit of something to play with

blunt for century
Jul 4, 2008

I've got a bone to pick.

The Saddest Rhino posted:

I was gonna refute you on this but someone just showed me

http://en.rocketnews24.com/2014/07/09/anime-gals-serve-yellow-shaved-ice-with-creepy-connotations-then-things-somehow-get-worse/

and yeah I can't really argue your point.

gently caress

everything

forever

:suicide:

Baldbeard
Mar 26, 2011

I started getting stomach dama after drinking whole milk so I switched to fat free for like 5 years. It's crazy how your perception of the various fat %s of milk changes. At first, I was so unhappy with my "watery" fat-free milk. I got used to it though.
Now whole milk might as well be as rich and thick as eggnog -- it's just too much for me.

Unsweetened vanilla almond milk is where it's at.

empty sea
Jul 17, 2011

gonna saddle my seahorse and float out to the sunset
I had to do a California Mastitis test for school. Now I don't drink cows milk. I'd much rather think about insect parts in my almond or rice milk instead of pus in cow's milk. I can't drink soy milk, it has that funky taste to it.

Fleta Mcgurn
Oct 5, 2003

Porpoise noise continues.

Throatwarbler posted:

Asian countries have their own bread-like staple foods which are not sweet at all. They also have a specific genre of food called "what people in Asia think Americans eat". If you only shop/eat at places that cater to expats/sex tourists guess which one you are going to encounter?

Your avatar is right on the money! Oh, and you know jack poo poo about living in East Asia, hth.

Seriously, what are you even talking about? The only Japanese or Korean "staples" that resemble bread that I can think of are mochi and ddeok, both of which can be made to be very sweet. I am talking about bread, you know, the loaf-shaped poo poo you make sandwiches out of. Or, in the case of Korea, sugary garlic bread.

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SulfurMonoxideCute
Feb 9, 2008

I was under direct orders not to die
🐵❌💀

blunt for century posted:

gently caress

everything

forever

:suicide:

The worst part is the weeaboos in the comments stating "you just don't understand their culture!" Yeah, like you fuckin do, creepy-rear end white weirdo.

The Saddest Rhino
Apr 29, 2009

Put it all together.
Solve the world.
One conversation at a time.



bringmyfishback posted:

Your avatar is right on the money! Oh, and you know jack poo poo about living in East Asia, hth.

Seriously, what are you even talking about? The only Japanese or Korean "staples" that resemble bread that I can think of are mochi and ddeok, both of which can be made to be very sweet. I am talking about bread, you know, the loaf-shaped poo poo you make sandwiches out of. Or, in the case of Korea, sugary garlic bread.

no see, the proper bread is (according to this thread) the whatever the hell thing they use in america that apparently is so exclusive they can't even butter it and edible only when slathered with lots of miracle whip.

Asian bread like the Cambodian baguettes and Vietnamese bahn mi are loving amazing but nope sorry, those are sexpat food so gently caress you gonna stuff this maybe gluten-free wheat product with lard and corn syrup down my throat, gobble gobble wrobble

Throatwarbler
Nov 17, 2008

by vyelkin

bringmyfishback posted:

Your avatar is right on the money! Oh, and you know jack poo poo about living in East Asia, hth.


Haha loving Anglo expats in Asian countries are the best. Please instruct me further on the mystical skills of "living in East Asia".

ErIog
Jul 11, 2001

:nsacloud:
The "what Asians think Americans eat" reminded me of omuraisu. Omuraisu is supposed to be an omelette over the top of rice and meat that's been slathered in ketchup with even more ketchup slathered on top of the omelette like this:


What also came back with the GIS was this abomination:


It's a processed omuraisu in the form factor of an onigiri.

SC Bracer
Aug 7, 2012

DEMAGLIO!

QuickbreathFinisher posted:

Is that a dolma sandwich?

E: gently caress, they're jalapeño poppers, aren't they?

it's in fact indian style unripe mango relish which while absolutely delicious isn't really what i'd consider sandwich material personally

e: then again, I've totally eaten rotis with just relish before so maybe it is I who is the anti-food porn

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yeah I eat ass
Mar 14, 2005

only people who enjoy my posting can replace this avatar

The Saddest Rhino posted:

no see, the proper bread is (according to this thread) the whatever the hell thing they use in america that apparently is so exclusive they can't even butter it and edible only when slathered with lots of miracle whip.

Asian bread like the Cambodian baguettes and Vietnamese bahn mi are loving amazing but nope sorry, those are sexpat food so gently caress you gonna stuff this maybe gluten-free wheat product with lard and corn syrup down my throat, gobble gobble wrobble

People are weird about bread. Bread is pretty much the same everywhere in the world that I've been. People like to fixate on wonderbread because "lol murika", as if that's the only bread we can buy or eat, but you can get the same processed white bread (in a different brand but effectively the same) everywhere. You can also get the fresh bread in the bakery section everywhere. Some countries may be better at making certain kinds of bread, but in the end bread is bread and no matter what kind of bread you want you'll be able to find it somewhere.

Fleta Mcgurn
Oct 5, 2003

Porpoise noise continues.

The Saddest Rhino posted:

no see, the proper bread is (according to this thread) the whatever the hell thing they use in america that apparently is so exclusive they can't even butter it and edible only when slathered with lots of miracle whip.

Asian bread like the Cambodian baguettes and Vietnamese bahn mi are loving amazing but nope sorry, those are sexpat food so gently caress you gonna stuff this maybe gluten-free wheat product with lard and corn syrup down my throat, gobble gobble wrobble

Yep. I totally said that.

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT

Hirayuki posted:

"Pan" just means "bread" (from the Portuguese) and is the catch-all word for any bread product you can get from a bakery, the majority of which is what we'd probably call "buns" or "rolls," sweet or otherwise. It's not always sweet and certainly not always deep fried. Curry pan is, though; that's kind of a curry piroshki breaded in panko and fried. (Delicious, when fresh.)



"Shokupan" ("eating bread") is the stuff that comes in loaves and is usually a sweeter variation on a white Pullman loaf, often sliced super thick. Upon eating a slice of Japanese toast, my son commented that the Japanese must have really huge mouths.



It also is loving fantastic toasted with butter or corn mayo, though I realize this last variation probably belongs in this thread:



Toasted, it's crispy on the outside and pull-apart soft on the inside.

Even an unabashed fan of shokupan (and garlic) like me draws the line at some of the things they do to it, though.



This is a five-inch-tall hunk of white bread diced into chunks and done up with garlic butter. Then there's the sweet variation, of which this (the top Japanese GIS for "karaoke dessert") is an extremely tame example:



See much worse here.

Anti-anti-food porn.

ACES CURE PLANES
Oct 21, 2010



Aesop Poprock posted:

I'm American and it's really loving annoying when Americans in this and other threads get super defensive about what people think we eat. It's true that America is huge and has super diverse types of pretty much any food you can think of but getting upset about it on this of all forums is pretty ridiculous. Why are goons so weird about food

Because this kind of poo poo is everpresent?

The Saddest Rhino posted:

no see, the proper bread is (according to this thread) the whatever the hell thing they use in america that apparently is so exclusive they can't even butter it and edible only when slathered with lots of miracle whip.

Asian bread like the Cambodian baguettes and Vietnamese bahn mi are loving amazing but nope sorry, those are sexpat food so gently caress you gonna stuff this maybe gluten-free wheat product with lard and corn syrup down my throat, gobble gobble wrobble

Like, the prevailing attitude is "pfft, look at these plebs, eating -thing-, they should eat the superior -thing- I like because it comes from my country, instead of that lovely country". Nationalistic bullshit is annoying no matter what side you fall on.

Mexican Deathgasm
Aug 17, 2010

Ramrod XTreme

ACES CURE PLANES posted:

Because this kind of poo poo is everpresent?


Like, the prevailing attitude is "pfft, look at these plebs, eating -thing-, they should eat the superior -thing- I like because it comes from my country, instead of that lovely country". Nationalistic bullshit is annoying no matter what side you fall on.

Even within countries people are really weird, it's like they're rooting for their favorite sports team. Even with something as incredibly diverse as pizza which can vary in every single component, people get in slapfights over which one is the "best".

I like my smoked meat on rye. I like french bread with olive oil and basalmic, I like whole grain toasted with butter, and about twice a year I have a sandwich made of wonder bread, Miracle Whip, bologna and lovely Kraft cheese slice because I grew up poor. It really is ok to like a wide selection of different types of food. The only way to do it wrong is to stick to a handful of things and never try new food because you're a weiner.

Chard
Aug 24, 2010




Mexican Deathgasm posted:

Even within countries people are really weird, it's like they're rooting for their favorite sports team. Even with something as incredibly diverse as pizza which can vary in every single component, people get in slapfights over which one is the "best".

Extra silly because the best is so obvious to everyone with half a brain

NoEyedSquareGuy
Mar 16, 2009

Just because Liquor's dead, doesn't mean you can just roll this bitch all over town with "The Freedoms."

Chard posted:

Extra silly because the best is so obvious to everyone with half a brain



Putting pineapple on an otherwise decent pizza is the same as putting cranberries in an otherwise decent salad. Keep your fruit where it belongs.

Waci
May 30, 2011

A boy and his dog.

NoEyedSquareGuy posted:

Putting pineapple on an otherwise decent pizza is the same as putting cranberries in an otherwise decent salad.

Exactly. The little bit more that takes it from decent to delicious.

im pooping!
Nov 17, 2006


yeah you jerks, dont eat that thing that i dont want to eat and won't eat because i have my own thing to eat just how i like it

Senior Scarybagels
Jan 6, 2011

nom nom
Grimey Drawer
anti-food porn thread: You Can't Eat What I Don't Like

cobalt impurity
Apr 23, 2010

I hope he didn't care about that pizza.

NoEyedSquareGuy posted:

Putting pineapple on an otherwise decent pizza is the same as putting cranberries in an otherwise decent salad. Keep your fruit where it belongs.

Next to the tomatoes, olives, and the twice-fermented grape juice in the dressing? :confused:

LITERALLY A BIRD
Sep 27, 2008

I knew you were trouble
when you flew in

Senior Scarybagels posted:

anti-food porn thread: You Can't Eat What I Don't Like

But it wouldn't be PYF without random, unnecessary slap fights!

Senior Scarybagels
Jan 6, 2011

nom nom
Grimey Drawer

LITERALLY A BIRD posted:

But it wouldn't be PYF without random, unnecessary slap fights!

A decent subforum?

Flyball
Apr 17, 2003

Senior Scarybagels posted:

anti-food porn thread: You Can't Eat What I Don't Like
All of my preferences for anything are objectively the best.

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NoEyedSquareGuy
Mar 16, 2009

Just because Liquor's dead, doesn't mean you can just roll this bitch all over town with "The Freedoms."

cobalt impurity posted:

Next to the tomatoes, olives, and the twice-fermented grape juice in the dressing? :confused:

You can feign confusion all you like but pineapple on pizza and dried cranberries in anything are both well understood to be controversial culinary decisions.

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