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AppropriateUser
Feb 17, 2012

uPen posted:

Play DH, start in 36 or 39, do not play 33 unless you want to do communist Germany or something.

Trotskyite Germany is pretty great, especially with its weird anachronistic socialist jukebox.

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SkySteak
Sep 9, 2010

PBJ posted:

Expanding into East Asia could help offset IC you lost in the West, but overall I've noticed that the USSR can bounce back from the Bitter Peace pretty quickly if it plays its cards right.

What would be the best way of going about it? Just churning out infantry and planes or is there more to it hen that. I mean I have created a monster Germany and there is no UK so my only distraction would the US.

Riso
Oct 11, 2008

by merry exmarx
Always remember the German Achilles heel is manpower and oil. You can just grind them down.

SkySteak
Sep 9, 2010
Until the victory over Russia and acquisition of the Caucuses, i was really close to running out of oil. I admit it was due to not realising the strains that winter+sturdy equipment placed but even so I wasn't oil rich.

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Riso posted:

Always remember the German Achilles heel is manpower and oil. You can just grind them down.

I dunno the out of oil combat modifier doesn't really seem to hinder units all that much in DH for some reason.

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



SkySteak posted:

What would be the best way of going about it? Just churning out infantry and planes or is there more to it hen that. I mean I have created a monster Germany and there is no UK so my only distraction would the US.

Yeah basically spam infantry, use it to capture Chinese (and Indian, if possible) manpower, spam more infantry. I guess be building up a small corps of fast units for encircling the Germans in round two, but you're really gonna just need fifty million fuckers to grind them down on a slow march to the Atlantic. You could also take the industrial route and build fuckoff millions of IC for a few years while you research yourself some nukes and missiles and stuff, then start spamming after that? That would depend on how long you want to play for though.

Riso
Oct 11, 2008

by merry exmarx

Raskolnikov38 posted:

I dunno the out of oil combat modifier doesn't really seem to hinder units all that much in DH for some reason.

To be honest my biggest complaint about oil is that suddenly bog Standard infantry Units require it.

SkySteak
Sep 9, 2010

Mister Adequate posted:

Yeah basically spam infantry, use it to capture Chinese (and Indian, if possible) manpower, spam more infantry. I guess be building up a small corps of fast units for encircling the Germans in round two, but you're really gonna just need fifty million fuckers to grind them down on a slow march to the Atlantic. You could also take the industrial route and build fuckoff millions of IC for a few years while you research yourself some nukes and missiles and stuff, then start spamming after that? That would depend on how long you want to play for though.

The year is 1947 and the Soviets have no even research the first nuke tech. Everything else tech wise is pretty strong however. My main plan was to build up for a year or two and rush over Manchuria and paratroop+troop drop into the Japanese home islands. If I can take Japan and Manchuria then that is 100 IC slowly pouring in, in the next few years. I will be focusing on infantry, aircraft and some small MOT/ARM forces. I don't need many but what partially undid the Soviets when I was playing as Germany was the mystifying lack of amour. I intend to play until the games end (Dec 30, 1964). Though I am considering pulling back to Jan 1st 1945/6 and starting there.

Pinback
Jul 22, 2012

I've been having real awful dreams about giant apocalyptic machinery
just mowing us all down...
Regarding the vague Eu4 hints, I'm guessing:

Government level is going to affect vassals and how vassalization works. I suspect being vassalized impacts your government level and/or dictates who can vassalize you.

County is a government type that only exists for countries that are vassals of Dukes. They're functionally similar other then maybe having some reduced stats, and you automatically become a Duchy if you become independant.

This is what we saw with Bergundy. It's a Duke with a bunch of counties as Vassals.

I have a suspicion that Eu4-2 is going to have much more vassal interaction and more stuff to encourage/enrich subject nations and their use in game.

pdxjohan
Sep 9, 2011

Paradox dev dude.

Fintilgin posted:

We're getting weekly dev diaries for an unannounced EUIV DLC, but CKII seems awfully quiet lately.

Different teams, different communications policies.

Alchenar
Apr 9, 2008

Victoria 2 is crashing for me every time at the initial load screen when I reinstall it from steam. Anyone got any solutions?

Allyn
Sep 4, 2007

I love Charlie from Busted!

Alchenar posted:

Victoria 2 is crashing for me every time at the initial load screen when I reinstall it from steam. Anyone got any solutions?

Clear out the cache folders in My Docs/Paradox/Vic2/map and Steam/steamapps/common/Vic2/map

pdxjohan
Sep 9, 2011

Paradox dev dude.

Wiz posted:

Parliament names are set by government type.

Countrytag actually.

Kersch
Aug 22, 2004
I like this internet

Alchenar posted:

Victoria 2 is crashing for me every time at the initial load screen when I reinstall it from steam. Anyone got any solutions?

Do what Allyn said, then navigate into the Victoria 2 folder and manually launch the game from there, not from the steam client. Once you successfully build the map cache by launching it that way once, you'll be able to launch it from Steam without problems in the future.

Guildencrantz
May 1, 2012

IM ONE OF THE GOOD ONES

pdxjohan posted:

Countrytag actually.

:woop: That owns, tons of flavor. Anachronistic Russian Duma, here I come!

Will the Commonwealth Sejm get rolled into the parliament system or stay event-driven?

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



SkySteak posted:

The year is 1947 and the Soviets have no even research the first nuke tech. Everything else tech wise is pretty strong however. My main plan was to build up for a year or two and rush over Manchuria and paratroop+troop drop into the Japanese home islands. If I can take Japan and Manchuria then that is 100 IC slowly pouring in, in the next few years. I will be focusing on infantry, aircraft and some small MOT/ARM forces. I don't need many but what partially undid the Soviets when I was playing as Germany was the mystifying lack of amour. I intend to play until the games end (Dec 30, 1964). Though I am considering pulling back to Jan 1st 1945/6 and starting there.

Be aware the USA can end Japan once they start dropping nukes, because events will start firing for surrender. Your plan sounds pretty decent overall, but the Germans will have a loving vast army you'll have to deal with one way or another. If you can take more of China, better still. Be ready to build a few GAR units to hold stuff down, and maybe augment them with like a MOT with an attached SPART to deal with any rebels that pop up.

Vivian Darkbloom
Jul 14, 2004


Guildencrantz posted:

:woop: That owns, tons of flavor. Anachronistic Russian Duma, here I come!

Will the Commonwealth Sejm get rolled into the parliament system or stay event-driven?

Devs have mentioned that the parliament system isn't appropriate for PLC :(

Enjoy
Apr 18, 2009

Vivian Darkbloom posted:

Devs have mentioned that the parliament system isn't appropriate for PLC :(

This is an outrage against the Honour of the slavic peoples

AAAAA! Real Muenster
Jul 12, 2008

My QB is also named Bort

Vivian Darkbloom posted:

Devs have mentioned that the parliament system isn't appropriate for PLC :(
Pre-order cancelled.

Wait, wrong game.

csm141
Jul 19, 2010

i care, i'm listening, i can help you without giving any advice
Pillbug
Uninstalled the game and stole the Euro equivalent of $44.95 from Johans wallet.

Preorder retroactively cancelled.

Drone
Aug 22, 2003

Incredible machine
:smug:


Stole the Clausewitz engine from Paradox, claimed it as my own, released a game, and then cancelled my own pre-order for said game.

Westminster System
Jul 4, 2009

Drone posted:

Stole the Clausewitz engine from Paradox, claimed it as my own, released a game, and then cancelled my own pre-order for said game.

That kind of behaviour will get you put in a mental asylum.

Riso
Oct 11, 2008

by merry exmarx

Westminster System posted:

That kind of behaviour will get you put in a mental asylum.

But don't fret, before that happens you will be able to get a very nice German made luxury car.

Star
Jul 15, 2005

Guerilla war struggle is a new entertainment.
Fallen Rib
There's something oddly relaxing in civilizing as Oman in Victoria 2. If everything goes well I might even have 10 working factories by the end of the game. :toot:

SkySteak
Sep 9, 2010
In DH, do you get a surrender event from Japan if you occupy enough of the Home Islands of the Soviets? I am really hoping I don't have to occupy every annexed colonial territory or island that has VP value.

Westminster System
Jul 4, 2009
I'm not sure, theres definitely one for nuking japan IIRC, for the USSR as well. Though who they surrender to is apparently random.

SkySteak
Sep 9, 2010
If it is the random surrender event, would I lose all of the Home Islands I'm occupying? It'd suck making the effort to actually take them only to magically lose them all due to events.

Vichan
Oct 1, 2014

I'LL PUNISH YOU ACCORDING TO YOUR CRIME
Kaiserreich has really improved these last couple of versions! Events are way less buggy now and a lot of countries are more fleshed out.

Everything concerning Japan just seems weird, though. If Formosa rebels they get tons of events while Korea doesn't seem to get any whatsoever. Japan always seems to do absolutely nothing during the entire game, they never attack China and I've only seen them attack Russia once during their civil war. It's very jarring to say the least. :(

Coincidentally; are there any good guides if one wants to try to mod DH?

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


Just think how much better itll be on HOI4, which is looks like its going to be Actually Good.

Westminster System
Jul 4, 2009
The DH modding documentation is pretty comprehensive - for everything else, theres asking on the forums - people are generally helpful.

Failing that, you can just look at pre-existing events or country setups and the like that do things you're aiming to do and crib them as appropriate.

Tahirovic
Feb 25, 2009
Fun Shoe
Will HoI4 have a 1930ish start date or only the 1936 ?
I kinda like earlier starts because it gives you more time to prepare but none of the mods for HoI3 with earlier start dates are good enough quality, same goes with EU4 sadly.


Edit: vvv I just want more time to get my Reich past the Versailles troubles ;(

Tahirovic fucked around with this message at 13:02 on Apr 23, 2015

Drone
Aug 22, 2003

Incredible machine
:smug:


Tahirovic posted:

Will HoI4 have a 1930ish start date or only the 1936 ?
I kinda like earlier starts because it gives you more time to prepare but none of the mods for HoI3 with earlier start dates are good enough quality, same goes with EU4 sadly.

At vanilla it's almost certainly going to be 1936-1948 like vanilla HoI2. Given Paradox's legitimately really good continuous dev cycle and iteration, I wouldn't be at all surprised to see expansions pushing the start date earlier and the end date later. I don't really see them pushing it any farther than, say, Darkest Hour did by going up to 1964. Even that seems farfetched.

That being said I doubt the game will get any earlier than 1933. Kindof an important year for the era.

Alchenar
Apr 9, 2008

I think a WW1 expansion might be interesting.

Drone
Aug 22, 2003

Incredible machine
:smug:


Alchenar posted:

I think a WW1 expansion might be interesting.

Yeah, but Paradox doesn't really like to overlap their games very much with regards to time period. Unless Victoria 3 is going to end in 1914 (which I think is pretty dumb).

Darkrenown
Jul 18, 2012
please give me anything to talk about besides the fact that democrats are allowing millions of americans to be evicted from their homes
We won't start before 1936 initially, and I'm not that keen on doing it later. I mean, there's some cool things to do, but an earlier start means even more sitting about for some nations and a much larger chance that you don't get anything that even looks like WWII. Plus if Hitler doesn't come to power we don't get any use out of our glorious portrait :ohdear:

Drone
Aug 22, 2003

Incredible machine
:smug:


Darkrenown posted:

We won't start before 1936 initially, and I'm not that keen on doing it later. I mean, there's some cool things to do, but an earlier start means even more sitting about for some nations and a much larger chance that you don't get anything that even looks like WWII. Plus if Hitler doesn't come to power we don't get any use out of our glorious portrait :ohdear:

I'll allow anything as long as we get a Sunset Invasion-style expansion involving an alien invasion (since Hearts of Iron has always had an alien invasion event that you could manually trigger in the console).

Riso
Oct 11, 2008

by merry exmarx
Isn't there a (Turtledove?) story where Aliens land in Poland or something and the Nazis get the atom bomb and nuke them?

Tahirovic
Feb 25, 2009
Fun Shoe

Darkrenown posted:

We won't start before 1936 initially, and I'm not that keen on doing it later. I mean, there's some cool things to do, but an earlier start means even more sitting about for some nations and a much larger chance that you don't get anything that even looks like WWII. Plus if Hitler doesn't come to power we don't get any use out of our glorious portrait :ohdear:

Make a 1917 start date, pretend Lenin stayed in Switzerland to lead a revolution, then have Leninist Switzerland be the reason for WWII.

ArchangeI
Jul 15, 2010

Drone posted:

I'll allow anything as long as we get a Sunset Invasion-style expansion involving an alien invasion (since Hearts of Iron has always had an alien invasion event that you could manually trigger in the console).

An Alien invasion DLC is a really fun idea, if only because it will piss of the grognards. Again.


Make them use robots, too.

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reignofevil
Nov 7, 2008

Riso posted:

Isn't there a (Turtledove?) story where Aliens land in Poland or something and the Nazis get the atom bomb and nuke them?

I liked this series. Lizards invade in WW2 mod would be sick

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