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muscles like this? posted:he can't "see" colors Still one of my favorite moments in comics:  Context is that Matt Murdock has just recently been outed publicly AGAIN as Daredevil.
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Jerusalem posted:Context is that Matt Murdock has just recently been outed publicly AGAIN as Daredevil. Is this alt-continuity stuff or do people just, like, forget?
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Apr 21, 2015 14:04
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sassassin posted:None of this is in the show. He at least once references the colour of a shirt or something based on the feel of the dye from a mile away. When did that happen? Because I don't remember it at all.
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Apr 21, 2015 14:25
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razorrozar posted:Is this alt-continuity stuff or do people just, like, forget? Not forget. Matt Murdock fought it in court and then the FBI agent who revealed the info was found dead and with a note saying he made it up. People believed that Matt was still Daredevil, but there was no proof. However, he recently had to reveal his identity in court due to a scheme by the Sons of Serpents.
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Apr 21, 2015 14:34
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It has made it difficult for him to practice law any more. Also Marvel has been fairly consistently phasing out secret identities for their heroes anyway. Out of the "big name" heroes I think Spider-Man is the only holdout.
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Apr 21, 2015 14:47
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muscles like this? posted:It has made it difficult for him to practice law any more. Also Marvel has been fairly consistently phasing out secret identities for their heroes anyway. Out of the "big name" heroes I think Spider-Man is the only holdout. Thanks a lot devil and Dr. Strange.
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Apr 21, 2015 14:50
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muscles like this? posted:It has made it difficult for him to practice law any more. Also Marvel has been fairly consistently phasing out secret identities for their heroes anyway. Out of the "big name" heroes I think Spider-Man is the only holdout.  Excelsior!
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Apr 21, 2015 14:50
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Alternative pants posted:Way back in Amazing Spiderman #533 True believers! HE MADE A DEAL WITH THE DEVIL AND IT WENT AWAY.
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Apr 21, 2015 14:53
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Alternative pants posted:Way back in Amazing Spiderman #533 True believers! And then it got undone, along with his marriage, by Mephisto during One More Day. Comics! (Though JJJ's reaction to Parker unmasking almost made the entire Civil War story worth it)
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Apr 21, 2015 14:54
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muscles like this? posted:HE MADE A DEAL WITH THE DEVIL AND IT WENT AWAY. This is why I hate Superhero comics.
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Apr 21, 2015 14:55
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Polaron posted:When did that happen? Because I don't remember it at all. It didn't happen, sassassin is just a lovely poster.
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Apr 21, 2015 16:03
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Alternative pants posted:Way back in Amazing Spiderman #533 True believers! That's Civil War #2, as I recall. I know this because I've definitely seen that panel but I don't read ASM.
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Apr 21, 2015 16:04
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Rurea posted:It didn't happen, sassassin is just a lovely poster. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spider-Man:_One_More_Day Totally did happen, was poo poo. Edit: Answering a guy asking about daredevil with info on a lovely spider-man storyline, I am the worst. Fil5000 has a new favorite as of 16:16 on Apr 21, 2015 |
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Apr 21, 2015 16:05
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I thought he was asking about Daredevil referencing the color of a shirt or something based on the feel of the dye from a mile away.
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Apr 21, 2015 16:07
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sassassin posted:Daredevil should be scripted like a radio play so blind people can fully enjoy it. I kinda miss radio plays. Sometimes I leave the TV on when I'm tired and lay down and just listen to it, but you miss certain details. Muscles like this? hit on it, but there was a big brouhaha because Netflix didn't initially support blind features for Daredevil, (and still doesn't for almost all their shows), but they've since responded and added accessibility support to Daredevil, which is pretty cool.
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Apr 21, 2015 16:12
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Zaphod42 posted:I kinda miss radio plays. Sometimes I leave the TV on when I'm tired and lay down and just listen to it, but you miss certain details. I agree, mostly because I don't get to watch TV anymore, just listen to it while I'm doing some work at home or doing chores.
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Apr 21, 2015 16:15
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Zaphod42 posted:I kinda miss radio plays. Sometimes I leave the TV on when I'm tired and lay down and just listen to it, but you miss certain details. http://www.bigfinish.com/ do a lot of radio play type things. They're best known for their Doctor Who stuff (which is the bulk of what they do), but they do a ton of other stuff now.
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Apr 21, 2015 16:22
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Zaphod42 posted:I kinda miss radio plays. Sometimes I leave the TV on when I'm tired and lay down and just listen to it, but you miss certain details. Radio plays are actually making a comeback thanks to the podcast. The Thrilling Adventure Hour and Welcome to Night Vale are the two big ones right now but I'm sure there's hundreds of smaller ones in every flavor imaginable.
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Apr 21, 2015 16:23
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ElGroucho posted:I agree, mostly because I don't get to watch TV anymore, just listen to it while I'm doing some work at home or doing chores. Yeah I definitely multi-task my TV watching most of the time. It also makes it hard to watch foreign films or anime. Normally I don't even notice the subtitles, but if you're not watching the screen you're sure going to notice not understanding the dialogue! Its interesting how some shows are more visual while others you can get by really well on just the audio. Law & Order is pretty predictable that way, I can just throw it on in the background and follow the plot perfectly without ever looking at what's going on.
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Apr 21, 2015 16:23
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Zaphod42 posted:Yeah I definitely multi-task my TV watching most of the time. Is that just because most police procedurals follow the same plot every time anyway? Crime -> Clues -> Interview -> Red Herring -> Interview -> Damning Evidence -> Chase -> Arrest -> Quips?
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Apr 21, 2015 16:26
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Fil5000 posted:Is that just because most police procedurals follow the same plot every time anyway? Crime -> Clues -> Interview -> Red Herring -> Interview -> Damning Evidence -> Chase -> Arrest -> Quips? 
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Apr 21, 2015 16:56
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Zaphod42 posted:I kinda miss radio plays. Sometimes I leave the TV on when I'm tired and lay down and just listen to it, but you miss certain details. http://www.graphicaudio.net has some okay ones too.
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Apr 21, 2015 17:14
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i tried watching Daredevil and for some reason there's this like 10 minute scene of the director strangling a cat that looked exactly like the cat my family had as a pet growing up, it totally broke the flow of the episode and didn't tie into anything else at all, it was weird e: also daredevil was staring at him the whole time except when he looked into the camera and said "I can see this with my eyes" Alaois has a new favorite as of 17:52 on Apr 21, 2015 |
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Apr 21, 2015 17:41
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sassassin posted:I haven't read Daredevil comics for decades, or at all. If his being blind has no impact on his characterisation or the plot, why bother with it? It's dumb, bad storytelling, then and now. Because otherwise he's Batman and Marvel already went to that well a half dozen times.
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Apr 21, 2015 17:50
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QUACKTASTIC posted:John Big Booty is Matt Murdock!? 
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Apr 21, 2015 17:58
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Aphrodite posted:Because otherwise he's Batman and Marvel already went to that well a half dozen times. Yeah and it produced Moon Knight, the best superhero  Now if only he could get an appropriately batshit crazy TV show...
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Apr 21, 2015 21:36
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Polaron posted:When did that happen? Because I don't remember it at all. They touch on it from time to time but I agree with you. One of the (few) weaknesses of the series is that Matt is mostly written as a guy who's not blind. When he wakes up after Foggy finds him half beaten to death, he actually looks at teh bandages and poo poo on the end table. The show only really seems to write him as blind when it suits the plot and they could have done a better job there. One thing they do show is that Matt can't use a smart phone or a tablet. He needs the buttons. Good show but there are some irrationally irritating elements in it.
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Apr 21, 2015 21:40
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BiggerBoat posted:One thing they do show is that Matt can't use a smart phone or a tablet. He needs the buttons. Good show but there are some irrationally irritating elements in it. Agreed. There is stuff that is irritating, but then there's stuff that's great. While complicated one-shots aren't new, especially in movies, that one-shot in Eps 2 when he's fighting the Russians was jaw dropping. It becomes even more impressive after you read all the technical challenges faced when choreographing it. The star and the stunt double had to swap places off frame off and on through that take while not disrupting the flow of the camera. But by far my favorite was D'Onofrio's *owning* the character of Fisk. From the moment he's introduced in ep.3 as a guy who thinks he's actually doing good for the city, not preferring the lime-light because it may interfere with his grand-vision, and the fear of becoming his father to the moment he not only realizes that is he the monster he feared he might be, but embraces it. Proteus Jones has a new favorite as of 21:54 on Apr 21, 2015 |
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Apr 21, 2015 21:52
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Zaphod42 posted:I kinda miss radio plays. Others have pointed it out other examples but when I found out that the internet archive had Dragnet and Yours Truly, Johnny Dollar episodes I was pretty happy. Sorta edit: Aw poo poo yeah they have The Shadow
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Apr 21, 2015 22:09
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All this talk of Daredevil is just making me pissed off about how ABC cancelled Blind Justice after one season. It really went out of its way to make the protagonist blind, while simultaneously being full of dog reaction shots and the silly murders that are a hallmark of Steven Bochco police procedurals.
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Apr 21, 2015 22:15
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razorrozar posted:Is this alt-continuity stuff or do people just, like, forget? He just started wearing this so people had no choice but to accept it v  v
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Apr 22, 2015 08:37
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Jerusalem posted:He just started wearing this so people had no choice but to accept it v To people reading this thread that don't know anything about Daredevil: No this is not a joke
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Apr 22, 2015 08:48
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Rurea posted:It didn't happen, sassassin is just a lovely poster. Rude. It doesn't happen from a mile away, he's either touching some cloth or is close to it, and it's in the first couple of episodes. I'm not going to rewatch it to check.
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Apr 22, 2015 09:39
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BiggerBoat posted:They touch on it from time to time but I agree with you. One of the (few) weaknesses of the series is that Matt is mostly written as a guy who's not blind. When he wakes up after Foggy finds him half beaten to death, he actually looks at teh bandages and poo poo on the end table. The show only really seems to write him as blind when it suits the plot and they could have done a better job there. That's actually one of the best episodes because it's all about Foggy being furious that his blind friend isn't actually blind. He feels cheated and betrayed, and all Matt's excuses are just nonsense.
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Apr 22, 2015 09:43
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flosofl posted:Agreed. There is stuff that is irritating, but then there's stuff that's great. I loved the little moment when he brings Karen back to his apartment for the first time, and she has to ask where the light switch is, because Matt didn't turn the light on when he came in. Just a really cool extra thing.
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Apr 22, 2015 09:46
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All the parkour in Daredevil would have felt more irrationally satisfying if, after every third super jump or ninja roll, he'd banged on a pipe or trashcan or whatever, just in passing. Also if he didn't throw away his fold-up metal cane all the time, only to then pick up a different rounded piece of metal to use to whack bad guys. Show the blind super hero deliver a cane beatdown, this is basic poo poo!
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Apr 22, 2015 12:43
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OutsideAngel posted:All the parkour in Daredevil would have felt more irrationally satisfying if, after every third super jump or ninja roll, he'd banged on a pipe or trashcan or whatever, just in passing. I'd love it if, in AKA Jessica Jones, there are just random canes in the background of street scenes.
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Apr 22, 2015 12:50
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If he uses a blind person cane, people will know he's blind.
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Apr 22, 2015 13:12
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I wish he wouldn't do so many big flippy kicks that leave him sprawled out on his face when just punching the guy normally would have been safer and more effective. The character makes an effort to hurt himself during fights, which works as a metaphor but just looks silly in practice.
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Light Gun Man posted:If he uses a blind person cane, people will know he's blind. That is what happened in the Daredevil movie.
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