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Suspicious Dish posted:Hi. I spent $20 to play music on a product that has systematically been failing at this simple task for almost a year. 
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Apr 21, 2015 18:38
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Is it too far fetched to say I was expecting something actually usable??? I needed a cheap something I could shove an SD card into and hear music ever since my iPod Classic died, and a Windows phone was $20 so I was like why not??? I was wrong.
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Apr 21, 2015 18:39
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Worst case scenario I'm down $20 so it's not that bad. Actually, scratch that. Worst case scenario I'm posting madly on an internet forum in anger for expecting a usable product from Microsoft while nerds make fun of me for being a dumb idiot consumer.
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Apr 21, 2015 18:41
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I haven't heard of those playback issues, but music sync is 100% a lovely experience in WP8, no question. It worked great in WP7 and then they broke the poo poo out of it at WP8 launch and have been improving it agonizingly slowly ever since.
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Apr 21, 2015 18:52
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Suspicious Dish posted:Worst case scenario I'm down $20 so it's not that bad. Is the phone you bought on 8 or 8.1? Also what phone is it? This thread has poo poo on Xbox Music and music playback in general for Windows Phone for quite some time (which is not as poo poo as it was when 8.1 first launched, but it's still pretty bad.). If you want a Windows Phone just for music, get a 7.x device and download Zune. That's actually fine. The new stuff is pretty bad though.
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Apr 21, 2015 18:54
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Suspicious Dish posted:Actually, scratch that. Worst case scenario I'm posting madly on an internet forum in anger for expecting a usable product from Microsoft while nerds make fun of me for being a dumb idiot consumer. No, you're right to be annoyed, digital music playback was more or less perfected 8 years ago and MS still can't get it right on phones.
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Apr 21, 2015 18:54
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What's the over/under on them getting their poo poo together in WP10
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Apr 21, 2015 18:55
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Suspicious Dish posted:What's the over/under on them getting their poo poo together in WP10 gently caress if we know, the preview versions are half-finished and they're saying basically nothing to the press.
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Apr 21, 2015 18:58
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I got a Nokia Lumia 520 from Amazon when they were $20. It came with WP8, and then I upgraded it to WP8.1. At some point the music player was rebranded from Nokia Music to Xbox Music. It had getting updates every month or so and they seem to do nothing.
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Apr 21, 2015 19:00
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The 520 is also the shittiest Windows Phone in general circulation if that helps explain anything 
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Apr 21, 2015 19:03
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How so. I don't need to run literally apps. I just need to menu through music and have it play. What would higher specs get me?
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Apr 21, 2015 19:05
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Suspicious Dish posted:How so. I don't need to run literally apps. I just need to menu through music and have it play. There are some other music apps on the app store that I've heard are better than the built in one, though I haven't tried them myself. I know there's a goon somewhere in this thread that made one that sounded like it worked pretty well, but I stream all the music I listen to so I can't speak as to how well any of the other music apps work.
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Apr 21, 2015 20:29
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I use the Xbox Music app on my Icon for listening through discographies. Never had an issue so far except for the mp3 tagging issue I had months ago.
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Apr 21, 2015 20:30
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Suspicious Dish posted:How so. I don't need to run literally apps. I just need to menu through music and have it play. Seems like some of your playback problems could have been related to the phone being slow and lovely; I have a 920 and those are issues I've never seen  Sync still sucks though
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Apr 21, 2015 20:32
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Suspicious Dish posted:Hi. I bought a Windows Phone for $20 to simply be a music player and it sucks at that because trying to copy any music over MTP takes 8 billion years and the music player app keeps getting corrupted Put your music in OneDrive, then stream it. Don't waste your time trying to sync it to 1 bad device. Also I am very sorry, but you have selected the mobile platform which is the worst at music 
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Apr 21, 2015 23:00
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Factor Mystic posted:Put your music in OneDrive, then stream it. Don't waste your time trying to sync it to 1 bad device. Also I am very sorry, but you have selected the mobile platform which is the worst at music How can this still be a problem in 2015? What do the Microsoft reps say when it's raised?
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Apr 21, 2015 23:08
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Factor Mystic posted:Put your music in OneDrive, then stream it. Don't waste your time trying to sync it to 1 bad device. Also I am very sorry, but you have selected the mobile platform which is the worst at music I don't even have a data plan for this thing. I have to sync it.
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Apr 21, 2015 23:15
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WattsvilleBlues posted:How can this still be a problem in 2015? What do the Microsoft reps say when it's raised? We had to move backwards and redo everything to be able to move forwards, but it'll pay off soon! Windows 10 will fix everything and developers will flock to the platform!
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Apr 21, 2015 23:15
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Suspicious Dish posted:I don't even have a data plan for this thing. I have to sync it. I'd think you could sync your files through OneDrive over WiFi.
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Apr 21, 2015 23:16
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Uthor posted:I'd think you could sync your files through OneDrive over WiFi. I'd think you could sync your files through a USB cable, but apparently Microsoft hosed that one up too. The solution is apparently to stream it.
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Apr 21, 2015 23:17
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I usually wi-fi sync now that OneDrive does that, but when I used a cable, I didn't bother with the desktop app, I just dragged and dropped. Is that what you did?
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Apr 21, 2015 23:21
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That is what I did. It takes around 2s to navigate into a folder. I realized I forgot to add ID3v2 tags to a file so it showed up wrong on my phone. To fix it, I have to navigate into the thing (2s), delete it (10s), copy in a new file (5s), and then make sure that it's all synced up somehow. That means going into Settings, Storage Sense, SD card, Manage, and wait a minute or two for the Music app to finish rescanning. And then hope that it all worked. And if not, try again a few more times until it sticks. And hope that it notices the change and doesn't just go "Unable to play this song" when clicking on the music. I cannot figure out how to make a playlist, even using the app or Windows Explorer. If I'm doing this wrong, let me know.
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Apr 21, 2015 23:55
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Suspicious Dish posted:That is what I did. It takes around 2s to navigate into a folder. I realized I forgot to add ID3v2 tags to a file so it showed up wrong on my phone. To fix it, I have to navigate into the thing (2s), delete it (10s), copy in a new file (5s), and then make sure that it's all synced up somehow. That means going into Settings, Storage Sense, SD card, Manage, and wait a minute or two for the Music app to finish rescanning. And then hope that it all worked. And if not, try again a few more times until it sticks. And hope that it notices the change and doesn't just go "Unable to play this song" when clicking on the music. You aren't listening. You've made a terrible decision. Nothing we can say is going to cheer you up if using wifi didn't occur to you immediately.
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Apr 22, 2015 01:19
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Suspicious Dish posted:That is what I did. It takes around 2s to navigate into a folder. I realized I forgot to add ID3v2 tags to a file so it showed up wrong on my phone. To fix it, I have to navigate into the thing (2s), delete it (10s), copy in a new file (5s), and then make sure that it's all synced up somehow. That means going into Settings, Storage Sense, SD card, Manage, and wait a minute or two for the Music app to finish rescanning. And then hope that it all worked. And if not, try again a few more times until it sticks. And hope that it notices the change and doesn't just go "Unable to play this song" when clicking on the music. http://swappa.com/search?q=ipod
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Apr 22, 2015 01:31
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Maybe it's because I came to WP8 from Blackberry 6 and don't know any better, but I've had zero issues just dropping folders full of MP3s into the Music folder. OneDrive has been slightly problematic because it will duplicate music on my PC's XBox Music library if I put it there to stream to my phone. When Winamp ceased development I thought I would need Media Monkey but so far XBox + Windows Explorer has been good enough. I maintain a separate 5th gen iPod for gym music because good luck finding an armband for the 920. Making a playlist is a huge pain from the phone itself but I mostly play albums anyway. I will gladly put up with XBox Music's quirks (i.e. album and track artist tag weirdness for Various Artists) if it means not having iTunes on any of my devices. In your case if you just want local syncing of MP3's, get an older iPod that doesn't need the iTunes drivers and have a cellphone repair place pop in a new battery. Winamp / Media Monkey / whatever can all sync to the older hardware and will force you to fix all your busted tags like I had to that one night I checked "manage my library" in iTunes. Shumagorath fucked around with this message at 01:35 on Apr 22, 2015 |
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Apr 22, 2015 01:31
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ElGroucho posted:You aren't listening. You've made a terrible decision. Nothing we can say is going to cheer you up if using wifi didn't occur to you immediately. I'm very aware that I made a terrible decision by actually assuming Microsoft could make a usable product and not gently caress it up. I'm just ranting to the internet because I literally can't believe that a Microsoft device literally can't play music without falling over in 2015.
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Apr 22, 2015 02:11
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My diagnosis is still "the 520 is a lovely phone literally designed for third-world countries" but yeah music sync isn't exactly "good" on flagships either soooooo
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Apr 22, 2015 02:19
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Suspicious Dish posted:I'm very aware that I made a terrible decision by actually assuming Microsoft could make a usable product and not gently caress it up. I'm just ranting to the internet because I literally can't believe that a Microsoft device literally can't play music without falling over in 2015. Welcome to the state of windows phone. As others have mentioned, its worse for the long timers. Windows phone 7 had a dreamlike music experience. I switched from an OG IPhone to a Samsung focus partially based on how much I liked the zune phone and desktop apps. Every update to the OS since then has sequentially destroyed the experience. The original windows phone 8.1 app was nearly unusable. Its now been improved to just really bad. If you want to blow more money on the platform, look for a windows phone 7 device (lumia 800 for example?) Also the Lumia 520 is awful in pretty much every way except price. That's not helping things here.
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Apr 22, 2015 02:59
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The original Windows Phone 8 app seemed worse than the 8.1 app. What did 8.1 do?
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Apr 22, 2015 03:04
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CalvinandHobbes posted:Every update to the OS since then has sequentially destroyed the experience. The original windows phone 8.1 app was nearly unusable. Its now been improved to just really bad. If you want to blow more money on the platform, look for a windows phone 7 device (lumia 800 for example?) As nice as the Lumias are, they have limited storage (only 16 GB for the 800 and 900) and they can't be expanded. That's why I ended up getting a Samsung Focus and a 32 GB microSD card for a combined capacity of 40 GB for music playing duties.
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Apr 22, 2015 03:09
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Suspicious Dish posted:I'm very aware that I made a terrible decision by actually assuming Microsoft could make a usable product and not gently caress it up. I'm just ranting to the internet because I literally can't believe that a Microsoft device literally can't play music without falling over in 2015. As for as your music player, Nokia music didn't become Xbox Music -- they were separate things. I never used Nokia Music much as I was using Zune, but yeah I don't see how Nokia Music -> Xbox Music current could be anything but a wash to a downgrade seeing as how things played out. Your options are: Attempt to sync your collection over MTP in small chunks until it works. (go slam your dick into a car door a few hundred times before you do so it seems like a less painful experience). Upload all your stuff to OneDrive and sync over wifi to your phone or just stream over wifi to your phone (may not be an option if this is for roaming). If you don't like the latest version of the stock xbox music client there are a few goon alternatives which aren't bad. Also never ever use the WP8 phone client the put out to replace the Zune client (normally installed from the store, or the standalone 7 version.) That thing is hot garbage.
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Apr 22, 2015 03:22
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I've been reading the forums on my phone browser since the SA WP app crashes on me a lot, and for some reason all of the "normal" text is very tiny, while quotes and italic/bold text is like three times bigger and actually readable. I've tried messing with all the font settings I could find and nothing makes my normal text bigger. Anyone know what the problem could be? It's the same on IE and ucbrowser. I've tried reading mode and it sucks, and SAs mobile version is completely broken.
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Apr 22, 2015 03:40
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Are you using the old app written by bootleg robot (Awful) or the new Awful forums reader? The latter shouldn't be crashing.
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Apr 22, 2015 04:32
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The Lord Bude posted:Are you using the old app written by bootleg robot (Awful) or the new Awful forums reader? The latter shouldn't be crashing. The latter has been crashing back to the Start screen out of nowhere for a while now and I've been sitting tight for an update to go through.
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Apr 22, 2015 04:37
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So if I had to move to an OS to wait out the fuckery of W10s release would it be easiest to go to ios or Android from Windows?
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Apr 22, 2015 07:37
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Charles Martel posted:The latter has been crashing back to the Start screen out of nowhere for a while now and I've been sitting tight for an update to go through. The version in the store sucks, so if it's crashing to start I'm not surprised. If you're in the beta and it's crashing. Well, that sucks I guess. If anyone is not in the beta, go into the project log thread and add yourself to the list. Remember, I don't use Windows Phone as a daily driver. So if there are issues with the current build (the site changes and crashes something I wrote for example) I will have zero idea.
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Apr 22, 2015 12:36
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Drastic Actions posted:If anyone is not in the beta, go into the project log thread and add yourself to the list. Forgot to do this, thanks for the reminder!
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Apr 22, 2015 12:53
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Suspicious Dish posted:That is what I did. It takes around 2s to navigate into a folder. I realized I forgot to add ID3v2 tags to a file so it showed up wrong on my phone. To fix it, I have to navigate into the thing (2s), delete it (10s), copy in a new file (5s), and then make sure that it's all synced up somehow. That means going into Settings, Storage Sense, SD card, Manage, and wait a minute or two for the Music app to finish rescanning. And then hope that it all worked. And if not, try again a few more times until it sticks. And hope that it notices the change and doesn't just go "Unable to play this song" when clicking on the music. Seriously. Xbox music is just so...MS.
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Apr 22, 2015 13:26
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You can make a playlist on the device easily enough -- Music > Playlists > + icon -- but that's p much the only option unless you're s subscriber
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Apr 22, 2015 13:29
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Okay, so I just submitted a new release for the regular Awful.appx app that changes the database to my new one. Hopefully once it's approved and installed it should fix the lovely database bugs that were causing all those issues for everyone not in the beta. I may push out a new beta build too with the Windows 10 thread view changes, to see if you all like them. But that'll take a bit of back porting, so it may be awhile. But still sign up in the project.log thread. edit: and it just passed certification, should be a few hours. Drastic Actions fucked around with this message at 14:07 on Apr 22, 2015 |
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Apr 22, 2015 13:49
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