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I think we basically just saw the Ultron tie-in. I'm thinking they head to Strucker's winter castle, possibly rescue Skye or show-relevant characters, notice the twins from AoU and maybe other powered people being experiments, Coulson calls in Avengers to get 'em. Provides another piece to the RealShield/Coulson debate puzzle when true atrocities to powered people might be uncovered, provides an easy path toward releasing more powered people in bulk if they want to move toward an Avengers Academy show (if it's Bobbi and Hunter who run it or something), and lets the Afterlife crew get nice and riled up at Skye's military involvement. After her mom's little pep talk about how she doesn't care about the humans, feels like Skye might end up closer to the Cal end of the loyalty spectrum than Jiayang.
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Spergatory posted:Jiaying probably just told him. I mean, we never see it happen, but if she's sending the guy to keep tabs on Skye and Cal, he's obviously someone Jiaying trusts a lot. Except he was off the grid this episode and not where he was supposed to be. Also he said he had not gone through the mist yet, and has a power. He's definitely not on the level.
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Apr 22, 2015 12:53
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Space Pussy posted:Ward definitely elevates the show, sorry, but it's true. I really hope he doesn't go to the magical place. Jemma's face acting is always good, she's got some field operative sass now though. I'd take Jemma in the Bobbi & Hunter Power Hour.
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Apr 22, 2015 13:10
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Blazing Ownager posted:Except he was off the grid this episode and not where he was supposed to be. Also he said he had not gone through the mist yet, and has a power. I think you've misinterpreted some scenes.
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Apr 22, 2015 13:12
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Blazing Ownager posted:Except he was off the grid this episode and not where he was supposed to be. Also he said he had not gone through the mist yet, and has a power. Of course he's been through the mist, buddy. He's a transitioner.
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Apr 22, 2015 13:22
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Blazing Ownager posted:Except he was off the grid this episode and not where he was supposed to be. Also he said he had not gone through the mist yet, and has a power. I think you're getting Lincoln and Ethan confused. Lincoln is Skye's transitioner, has electric/telekinetic powers after going through the mist, and knows that Jiaying is Skye's mother. Her and Gordon tasked him with tailing Skye and her dad. Ethan was the random inhuman from a previous episode who hadn't gone through the mists yet, and announced that Gordon was dropping him off somewhere so he could go backpacking. Today's episode revealed that Hydra picked him up shortly afterwards and he ended up as a corpse in their lab, and meanwhile Jiaying and Gordon were worrying that they hadn't heard back from him.
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Apr 22, 2015 13:38
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Blazing Ownager posted:Except he was off the grid this episode and not where he was supposed to be. Also he said he had not gone through the mist yet, and has a power. You're really bad at tv.
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I actaully really like having a legit HYDRA evil threat for SHIELD/REALSHIELD to unite against because the infighting was kind of getting old and has to conclude eventually without more development/distraction. I mean even Coulson can only play the game so long when even May doesn't support him. Please give us more Fitz in the field. Fitz in the field is loving awesome.
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Having Skye's pseudo-boyfriend turn out to be an evil mole AGAIN would be super dumb. The obvious next step in her character would be to give her an actual decent boyfriend... and then murder him.  EDIT: notthegoatseguy posted:I actaully really like having a legit HYDRA evil threat for SHIELD/REALSHIELD to unite against because the infighting was kind of getting old and has to conclude eventually without more development/distraction. I mean even Coulson can only play the game so long when even May doesn't support him. I dunno, I like Good vs Good conflicts. The most dangerous people are the ones who think they're right.
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Did I misunderstand something or did Fitz notice that someone was hacking into Deathlok?
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double nine posted:Did I misunderstand something or did Fitz notice that someone was hacking into Deathlok? Yes Fitz noticed someone was hacking into the feed.
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Mr Beens posted:Yes Fitz noticed someone was hacking into the feed. But they haven't followed up on that (yet)?
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double nine posted:But they haven't followed up on that (yet)? Holy poo poo it was Simmons. And they followed up on it when Simmons saw Ward and Coulson together through Deathlok's camera.
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mikeraskol posted:I think this is right. Potential AoS as well as AoU spoiler: In an interview, Jed Whedon said that as a part of Maria Hill's cameo in AoS, she takes a piece of information from the show and brings it to the movie. I've seen the movie and I have literally no idea what that could possibly have referred to.
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mikeraskol posted:Holy poo poo it was Simmons. And they followed up on it when Simmons saw Ward and Coulson together through Deathlok's camera. I know. But Fitz hasn't done anything with that info yet. No text message through deth's eyeballs communications, no trying to block it, no "this isn't what it looks like" etc.
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Spergatory posted:Having Skye's pseudo-boyfriend turn out to be an evil mole AGAIN would be super dumb. The obvious next step in her character would be to give her an actual decent boyfriend... and then murder him. Haha I just remembered that in the comic that is what happens with her boyfriend. He ended up being blackmailed by Hydra, so Nick Fury killed him.
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Dan Didio posted:I've seen the movie and I have literally no idea what that could possibly have referred to. Probably because the episode in which that happens is next week or the week after and she'll say "I am taking this piece of information to the Avengers!" and in the movie it was probably just a bit of exposition or something with no reference to AoS at all which is to be expected.
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Martout posted:Probably because the episode in which that happens is next week or the week after and she'll say "I am taking this piece of information to the Avengers!" and in the movie it was probably just a bit of exposition or something with no reference to AoS at all which is to be expected. Well, there are literally no references to Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. in the movie at all. Now I think about it, there's one bit of semi-exposition she gives at one point that could fit the bill, but it's something that I have literally no idea how it could serve a role in an episode of this.
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double nine posted:I know. But Fitz hasn't done anything with that info yet. No text message through deth's eyeballs communications, no trying to block it, no "this isn't what it looks like" etc. Pretty sure it's a contributor to Coulson turning himself in to REALSHIELD at the end, along with all of the poo poo hitting the fan. It'll be brought up again in the next episode, I imagine.
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AOU spoilers It opens with the avengers raiding a Hydra facility. It never explains how they found out about it, presumably the information Maria takes to the avengers is where it is and that it's bad
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bobkatt013 posted:Haha I just remembered that in the comic that is what happens with her boyfriend. He ended up being blackmailed by Hydra, so Nick Fury killed him. But then she ends up dating the superspy magician who can alter reality so it all works out.
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ShineDog posted:AOU spoilers Haha, if that's what it actually ends up being, then that's really tenuous and makes the movie basically ignoring the show even funnier.
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muscles like this? posted:But then she ends up dating the superspy magician who can alter reality so it all works out. Now she is dating/hanging with the Winter Soldier.
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We won't be getting significant in-movie references to AoS and I think deep down we all know that by now? Maybe not considering how bad some people are at understanding what is actually happening on their TVs 
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double nine posted:I know. But Fitz hasn't done anything with that info yet. No text message through deth's eyeballs communications, no trying to block it, no "this isn't what it looks like" etc. My bad, at this point I assume most people in this thread are dumb and I thought you meant did they follow up and show who was hacking Deathlok. Apologies!
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Poor Mike asking about the face mask. I'm pretty sure the surgery to repair his face already exists in normal medicine. I guess SHIELD doesn't have health insurance.
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Aphrodite posted:Poor Mike asking about the face mask. I hear Hydra had a pretty good incentives package!
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Aphrodite posted:Poor Mike asking about the face mask. Or any more of those masks apparently.
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Ambivalent posted:I hear Hydra had a pretty good incentives package! Their retirement plan is to die for
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Now that Lincoln's been taken by Hydra I'm revising my opinion on him: I reckon he was totally on the level, a nice sweet inhuman friend of Skye's. Who's now about to have really horrible poo poo happen to him. 
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Something just struck me: the Tahiti program(-me?) was brought up again this episode, and in my opinion that means it's going to be used. Now Ward is too effective a wild card for the writers to mindwipe, but there is someone else who would benefit from a mindwipe: Cal. I think the final episode he's going to get his mind wiped so he finally gets rid of that bitter rage. Especially because it seems like the writers have run out of ideas of what to do with him and it's the best bitter-sweet ending for him.
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Cal getting mind wiped on his good side, and having furious Coulson rage when he turns. Would be pretty funny.
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I have a feeling Cal is going to die. Mostly because of the other project he'll be going to work on, but I supposed they could just write him off for a while.
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Actually, the obvious question is how Coulson suddenly has access to the TAHITI program. As far as we're aware, the only mind-rewriting medical theatre was located in the GH bunker, and that got blowed the hell up.
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bio347 posted:Actually, the obvious question is how Coulson suddenly has access to the TAHITI program. As far as we're aware, the only mind-rewriting medical theatre was located in the GH bunker, and that got blowed the hell up. He might not have access and is bluffing. Or he might have the information to rebuild the mind-rewriting part from Fury's toolbox.
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Rocksicles posted:Cal getting mind wiped on his good side, and having furious Coulson rage when he turns. Would be pretty funny. Or the mindwipe goes horribly wrong and he finally goes full Jekyl/Hyde. I love this show because you can't discount any possibility that sounds plausible because you never know which ones will get used. 
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Mind Wipe completely wipes out everything. That he has a daughter everything. He's just a doctor in Milwaukee.
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double nine posted:Something just struck me: the Tahiti program(-me?) was brought up again this episode, and in my opinion that means it's going to be used. Now Ward is too effective a wild card for the writers to mindwipe, but there is someone else who would benefit from a mindwipe: Cal. I think the final episode he's going to get his mind wiped so he finally gets rid of that bitter rage. Especially because it seems like the writers have run out of ideas of what to do with him and it's the best bitter-sweet ending for him. That Tahiti poo poo was hilarious in a bad way. Yea Ward just let me mind rape you as thanks for helping me. Burn down shield. Both of them.
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Martout posted:We won't be getting significant in-movie references to AoS and I think deep down we all know that by now? Do we really need one? The Winter Soldier tie-in was just an excuse for the show to really start telling a good story, the show is really good right now and there really is no reason to interrupt that.
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Oasx posted:Do we really need one? The Winter Soldier tie-in was just an excuse for the show to really start telling a good story, the show is really good right now and there really is no reason to interrupt that. Yeah, if they have to rely on every movie event to function as a game-changer it comes across as a storytelling crutch. I'm fine with a small mention, or even MCU material that makes into the show that functions organically, like how Lady Sif pops in once in a while.
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