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The Locator posted:or cruisers that are getting close enough to be a torpedo threat. Implying torpedos at 10 km are a threat.
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Infidelicious posted:Implying torpedos at 10 km are a threat. I'm really good at driving into torpedoes.
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Apr 22, 2015 18:49
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Infidelicious posted:Implying torpedos at 10 km are a threat. Japanese destroyers don't live long enough to get that close  , he's talking about US cruisers at <6km range, though you should probably put a couple 16 inch shells through them if they get inside 10, just in case.
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Apr 22, 2015 18:50
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So let me clarify what I meant. In a BB, I don't like to be close enough to anything that I need to deal with their torpedoes, because I hate torpedoes (and am very good at getting hit by them). If I'm shooting at a BB 18km away, and I see that a cruiser is getting into the 10km exclusion zone around my ship, I'm going to put the big guns on that cruiser until he blows up or goes away, because if I ignore him, and he does get close enough, he's going to put torpedoes in the water that I'll have to deal with. Also, the pubbies tend to shoot way too much HE and getting lit on fire is annoying, so blowing up the cruiser reduces the number of incoming shells a lot. Removing enemy guns from the field is always a good thing. I may not be "doing it right", but that's what I meant.
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Apr 22, 2015 18:55
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Infidelicious posted:Implying torpedos at 10 km are a threat. When me and two friends run around in japanese destroyers (tier 5, mind), they sure are.
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Apr 22, 2015 18:56
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Speaking of exclusion zones, what kind of secondaries will US BBs sport? Having a 7km "gently caress off" zone around my Nagato is pretty hilarious.
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Apr 22, 2015 19:07
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Nerses IV posted:Speaking of exclusion zones, what kind of secondaries will US BBs sport? Having a 7km "gently caress off" zone around my Nagato is pretty hilarious. Five inchers like the cruisers have.
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Apr 22, 2015 19:17
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It's 5 inchers all the way down so I doubt we'll get any Nagato hilarity with US BBs. Maybe if they make em real accurate at the high tiers.Baudin posted:When me and two friends run around in japanese destroyers (tier 5, mind), they sure are. Seriously though you can dodge torps super easy at half that range simply by kicking yourself into a turn before they launch since torpedo launches are extremely telegraphed.
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Apr 22, 2015 19:23
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They should have higher rates of fire like the US DD line, though.
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Apr 22, 2015 19:29
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Insert name here posted:It's 5 inchers all the way down so I doubt we'll get any Nagato hilarity with US BBs. Maybe if they make em real accurate at the high tiers. For decent odds of success you really want to keep outside visual range so you don't telegraph the launch or you want to be really quick fitting it between salvoes at a different ship than you target with torps.
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Apr 22, 2015 19:32
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xthetenth posted:Five inchers like the cruisers have. So in theory, they'll be able to hose down anything short of a heavy cruiser. I'm okay with that. I guess we'll just have to see how the AP/HE rebalancing ends up shaking out.
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Apr 22, 2015 19:41
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xthetenth posted:Five inchers like the cruisers have. Lets hope the Iowa gets the 1984 remodel as premium Who needs the secondaries with the Tomahawks, CWIS and Harpoons.
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Apr 22, 2015 19:48
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Gegil posted:Lets hope the Iowa gets the 1984 remodel as premium Who needs the secondaries with the Tomahawks, CWIS and Harpoons. Just kidding they'll still all miss a non-manuevering target
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Apr 22, 2015 19:53
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Nerses IV posted:So in theory, they'll be able to hose down anything short of a heavy cruiser. I'm okay with that. I guess we'll just have to see how the AP/HE rebalancing ends up shaking out. Range'll be weak most likely but hopefully they'll be capable of some point blank annihilation. Destroyers will likely be nastier foes in them until high tiers though.
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So whats the secret to using carriers? My fighters just seem to die, and I am horrendously bad at torpedoin, despite trying to do fancy stuff like staggered launches.
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Insert name here posted:Only idiots drive into long range torpedoes. So really most pubbies. They don't see destroyers (especially if you turn off your AA guns) over 6km away. Pick a battleship that's moving in a straight or mostly straight line, or pick a narrow channel the enemy is approaching from, fire torpedoes. Wait 10 seconds or until they get within 7km, first destroyer hits smoke. Start turning, shoot second salvo once you've reloaded down the channel assuming they're still coming. You can wipe out quite a few ships at bottlenecks or deny them good firing lines if done properly. You can keep this going for a long time with multiple smokes too since it prevents the enemy cruisers or battleships from targeting you properly. Alternatively wait until they're engaged with your own battleships and do the same thing from the side - usually battleships are too focused on their gunnery and will miss you until the alert pops up. It doesn't matter too much since, again, you're basically invisible outside of 6km or so.
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DJ Dizzy posted:So whats the secret to using carriers? My fighters just seem to die, and I am horrendously bad at torpedoin, despite trying to do fancy stuff like staggered launches. First question, are you using auto or manual ?
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Apr 22, 2015 20:21
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hahahaha this loving game. the loving ocean map. im dying.
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Hammerstein posted:First question, are you using auto or manual ? What?
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DJ Dizzy posted:What? Hit alt while you're lining up your bombers for a tighter, manual torpedo run.
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Has anyone else started getting intermittent lag recently? Not actual high latency, but the red "lag" indicator at the top of the screen, making the game slightly jittery at times. I only have it happen sometimes, and it seems to vary by round. If I get it in a round, it stays that way the whole time, if it doesn't, I'm fine for the entire round. It's more of an irritation than anything, as it only occasionally throws off a shot if there's a jitter right as I'm aiming to fire off a quick shot. I suspect it's an issue on the server end (nothing else on my network or system lags at the time, so at the very least it isn't specifically on my home network or PC), and given that it varies by round it seems like it might be an issue with server load or something in the network for where the servers are located, which wouldn't be unusual for a closed beta. Just figured I'd see if anyone else had run into it.
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Ok, so that Yamato was already damaged. But letting me in a Kita creep up to it on the Ocean map.... : 
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Is it just me, or is daily reset 1.5x time the ripe moment to get in a match where each enemy battleship will steam to B unescorted one by one, right into any torpedoes or bombers in the way? 
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My first day with the Hatsuharu summed up in one picture:  First win had me capping the base while my entire team got steamrolled. Second one had me be the only one to go back and reset cap on Ocean (and barely survive it) so we won the cap race. The only kill on either team was an Atlanta I nuked with a 10km torp drop I did mostly to break up their cruiser line. What the gently caress is wrong with this boat? Magni fucked around with this message at 02:03 on Apr 23, 2015 |
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DJ Dizzy posted:So whats the secret to using carriers? My fighters just seem to die, and I am horrendously bad at torpedoin, despite trying to do fancy stuff like staggered launches. First and foremost, try not to engage the enemy fighters if the enemy carrier is even 1 tier higher than you. He will gently caress you up. If you must engage him, try to have numbers advantage on him. If he's upgraded and you are not, even at 2 to 1 odds, you might lose. I recommend luring the enemy over friendly cruisers and engage there. Use alt to manually drop your torpedoes. It allows you to drop them a lot closer to the ship you are trying to sink, making it much harder for them to dodge. Its not fool proof, but it is a lot better than simply clicking on the guy and waiting for the planes to do their jobs. Plane travel time sucks. Try to get closer to the action all the while staying out of spotting range. Island will often help. Or stay at the back and bitch that you only managed to do 2 runs during the whole match. Always be on the move. If a BB spots you and you are not moving, you will be sleeping with the fishes. Always assume your team sucks and will do absolutely nothing to help you. More often than not, they will leave huge gaps that allows enemy DD to go right up to you and gently caress up your day. IF you are lucky, one friendly DD might come and kill the one that just sank you, but odds are he will not be there in time to save your rear end. More importantly than anything: Pay attention to what goes on in the map. If one of those big gaps open and a DD comes right up to you, its not just your team's fault. Its your fault for not getting the gently caress away from that position. Once in a while, sink a friendly ship. It'll make you feel better. Don't forget to tell the guy in chat that its his fault. We love chat porn.
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Dalael posted:First and foremost, try not to engage the enemy fighters if the enemy carrier is even 1 tier higher than you. He will gently caress you up. If you must engage him, try to have numbers advantage on him. If he's upgraded and you are not, even at 2 to 1 odds, you might lose. I recommend luring the enemy over friendly cruisers and engage there. Thanks! Whats the arming time on torpedoes? Twice I have had a full barrage slam into a ship only to just do nothing at all. DJ Dizzy fucked around with this message at 08:04 on Apr 23, 2015 |
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DJ Dizzy posted:Thanks! Whats the arming time on torpedoes? Twice I have had a full barrage slam into a ship only to just do nothing at all. I've never been able to quite figure it out. You'll probably have to do a few trial and errors until you get it nailed down.
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Yeah. Nothing is worse than watching 6 torpedoes all hit a battleship only to just fizzle out.
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Apr 23, 2015 08:56
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DJ Dizzy posted:Yeah. Nothing is worse than watching 6 torpedoes all hit a battleship only to just fizzle out. Yes there is. 2 sets of 6 torpedoes all hitting a battleship and fizzling out. 
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Dalael posted:Yes there is. 2 sets of 6 torpedoes all hitting a battleship and fizzling out. Thanks Obama.
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First match in my Lexington today. Other carrier on my team is a ranger. I see his planes take off and then just.... fly around doing nothing. One of the enemy carrier on the other team managed to send all of his fighters and torp bombers straight to us. While I attempted to fight them off, the other guy did nothing. So being a nice guy, I warned him that i'd sink his rear end myself if he didn't do something soon. No reply.. Planes still just flying around him, so I decided to launch a few torps at him. 7 torps hit and sunk him. That is when the guy gets all spergy in chat, bitching and all. I excused myself saying I was really bad at math and was trying to solve a problem: If a carrier moves in a direction at a specific speed, and torpedoes moves towards it at a different speed. Will they meet? I might get reported. 
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3 Kongos in a division steaming in line ahead and focusing fire is a force to be reckoned with. I think battleships have the greatest potential for carrying when organized and maneuvered well. CruRons and DesRons can do some damage as well, but nothing dictates the flow of battle like the BatRon. One match we did a close range driveby on a Langley to port and sank it with secondaries while engaging a Myogi to starboard with all 3 ships' main batteries. Secondaries are all sky cancer deserves.  Seriously though, against 3 well handled battleship operating together every single CV we ran into either flubbed their attack hilariously or managed maybe one mildly damaging torpedo hit in exchange for many aircraft shot down. All you have to do is turn into them and they really can't do poo poo to you. Dive bombers might as well not even bother taking off.
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DJ Dizzy posted:Thanks! Whats the arming time on torpedoes? Twice I have had a full barrage slam into a ship only to just do nothing at all. They arm at the edge of the green firing arc on the side of your ship you're aiming at. For torpedo bombers it seems around 3-4 seconds. Distracted fucked around with this message at 13:25 on Apr 23, 2015 |
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Apr 23, 2015 12:10
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Are they gonna revisit the shipsizes? Hate that my Omaha is as big as the Yamato.
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I've just started looking into this game. Is the Sims going to be the Type 59 of WoWs? Is it worth that much money to get into the closed beta? That ship looks awesome from what I've seen on YouTube. edit: Also, I'm pissed I didn't hear about the 50% off sale a couple weeks back. I would have hopped on that.
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Sims is amazing fun, will probably get nerfed to hell and back upon "release"
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Sims is very fun but it isn't nearly as good as the Grim.
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The Type 59 is going to be whatever semi-fast BB they accidentally make too good.
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Sims is hit and miss but it is drat fun to drive, even if you suck at torpedo runs you can still gently caress up other DDs.
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xthetenth posted:Sims is very fun but it isn't nearly as good as the Grim. I regret the Yubari 
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